Ascending Doubts

To anyone who knows me on here maybe have gathered i have never felt quite right about the Ascending subject and am not sure i ever will. To me it just sounds like a Cult plan for mass suicide. On the other hand i can agree with making the vibrations higher for the planet and spreading love and light. But Once doing so why give up there and bugger off while they will be work still to do? what's wrong with staying and seeing a job thru to the END? Also it would be awful to see the lost of so many great loving souls to else where. in a place which will still be in very needed of you? Also this talk also fits in with the N.W.O plans to reduce the world population.. why not get rid of the ones who could and are willing to make a change for the better (light) ???? It all doesn't make sense to me personally. I think Humans look for answers from others too much where really all your answers are all within. but then again its hard to understand that voice which seems to be within you is you or not. Humans are so easier lead and manipulate. I'm all for becoming a spiritual being but I'm not gonna give up my emotions or let my guard down just becz i feel or told everything is gonna be alright (especially without seeing results with all my sensations inc eyes) Remember you're never outta the woods until you are no longer surround by tree's there for seeing where the path actually leads too....      
I'm not saying am Right... i just feel with the hole Ascending views its like the Blind leading the Blind. An Angel once told me. To be the Blind leading the Blind you must first cut off all other possibilities. remember there's always more than one path to take and not one of those paths is either wrong or right but make sure its you who has made you chose that path and not someone else. THINK FOR YOUR SELF. I love you all so very much and i wish you all the best on your journey and whatever path you chose. But I'm definitely not leaving optional without a good fight.... 
just like to say this is just MY OWN feelings/view because from my own personal meeting's and experiences. i wish everyone to follow their own no matter what and not mine but there's never any harm in thinking deeply even some may say so. Thinking for yourself is one of the most powerful things you will ever do in life... X  
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  • Ummm... we are ascending all the time, considering you are not falling/descending.

    Perhaps you ment 'Enlightenment'? You don't need to believe me, but I say to you it's true, Enlightenment is a possibility in this lifetime if you want to. Seen out of time it is inevitable, you are already light, but not consciousness about it yet. :)

    • of course we all are. but forcing ascending right to the 5th D with a big group of us? ascending should be natural all in our own time. why are all these people and beings saying about ascending is good for us? its good when its our time but not before. I'm staying kicking ass and helping out. a guy once said well you can always be re born back to 3rd earth to carry on helping out? why bother? why not try getting it all done while I'm already here if we end up being trick by the time we get re-birthed and grown to be interdependent again new world older may have took over? they may be more powerful than ever before. I'm staying in 3rd as long as i get chance to help improve things while i am here. Gonna up lift the vibrations and send love and co but I'm holding onto all my other emotions they make me who i am. 

      For Enlightenment i may not be near it but if it means giving up my personality... forget it for now. in a place where peace and harmony is everywhere and there is no longer any suffering then Enlightenment me baby lol... ^_^ We need people of all kinds on different levels with all special unique abilities and qualities to see this job thru.  

      • Nobody will be forced to ascend right to the fifth. :p

        See it like this way; shift, and the entire world shifts with you. (in your reality/time)

        So if you shift, perhaps you see me shift with you too, while I in my own consciousness am still here where I am.

        • Fair enough if it does happen that way. 

          The problem is you have other's out there telling people differently. i myself have been told its not a matter of my own choice then they go on and say this universe is a free will one? not sure if i understand the meaning. lol 

          Also the hole shift thing? entire can that happen unless the world comes to a total end of all life? from what i have gathered in life here not everyone in the entire world seems to ever feels the same energy shifts at the same time. unless its happens on a scale we just haven't experiences yet? No matter what seems to happen here everyone always has a different point of view on the same things that happen. people get so threaten by other people views if its different to theirs . so if the world does shift do you think people will still have conflicting views on it? i find a positive in conflicting views it stops all becoming under 1 way on control. but then it becomes negative when people use violence trying to prove their view. so much stuff i don't understand here. do you think up there they have the same problems? x 

              

  • I have too much proof from my own awakening and growing abilities, weird stuff happens to me so often I don't think it's weird anymore, lol. 

    I can understand having doubts, though, thinking things through is why we were given intelligence :)  My suggestion is to keep an open mind and an open heart, don't drink the koolaid and stay positive.  Things have a way of working out, your journey is important to the whole, treat yourself nice and don't get into the low vibes and you'll be alright. 

    Good luck, Hannah, I have faith in you to make the right decisions that work best for you :)

    • its a great way too think. staying positive is great but not always possible (for me anyway) to get answers and to get further to my goals i need to stray away from being positive .  much as i love high vibes i need the lows too. to keep me wanting to better myself, to get better results and so on.  

      as i was just saying to a friend: without anger you can't fight but without forgives you can't live. negativeness can be good . remember too much of anything is a bad thing even positivity... to  become a great strong warrior you need all elements water,fire,earth,air. This is what i choose, But this doesn't mean its right for the next person to follow. Everyone needs to follow their own path as i always state. 

      Thank you for the message Kelly and i wish and have faith in you the same x 

  • Well I don't think you're right at all, but I do have doubts about ascension, in terms of, actually having it pulled off by the end of the year. I don't think people really put much thought into just how are we supposed to get this done. They just think, well it'll happen, somehow...or the galactics will make sure it happens. But, realistically...I just don't see ascension happening by the end of the year. Now how I understand ascension at least.

    I think there are some people here, maybe even many people here, who just think, well the GF will come and they'll fix the planet, they'll give us light chambers, and all of this stuff, and we will be ascended and fully conscious, and it all just seems too convenient. Too much of the savior energy. I think they'll come and help, but they won't come down and basically hand us ascension. Ascension is something we give ourselves, it's something we find within. No light chamber is going to do that, and it would be a disservice to our growth into true masterhood if they did do that.

    • i may not be right , but only for your journey but i may be right for mine.  there is no wrong we just need to accept others for their own views and opinions without our ego's thinking we have the right to say who's wrong. i feel many spend way to much time trying to convince themselves, others are wrong once they hear something which doesn't feel right to them. When maybe if people just tried keeping a open mind to everything and not shut out any possibilities they could learn more?

      When people try pushing their own idea's on others then i have a problem. but i love hearing other people's ideas it helps me gain more, and i hope mine helps people gain new idea's for themselves too. its good to share as long as its done with respect  :D          

      Noone will never know when anything will happen for sure or how it will happen and feel like. People seem to feel empower when they say they know how anything is gonna be (its always nice to be able to comfort people) but all in truth does anyone really know all the facts? and even if someone has been thru it before doesn't mean the experience will be the same again or the experience will be the same for every person who it will happen to. I just hope everyone will find the right path for them and they will be safe and happy with the end result. <3 

      • Well that's true, alot of it comes from the mental level lol We don't really KNOW for sure. What I do know for sure, is what I've discovered within me, and alot of what they say about ascension, and what it means to be evolved, is very true. So it's a pick your pony game, either you believe in it or not, and I do believe in it, I can see what it's done for me.

        And I do believe in ascended beings, like the masters...St. Germain, Jesus, El Morya, Kuthumi, etc. I think these guys are very real. There's even photographs of them lol Like the one with Blavatsky. And they apparently are ascended beings, so there's no real reason for me to doubt that there is such thing as ascension. It's good to be skeptical, but not skeptical beyond reason.

        • Do you even realize how many photos out there on the Internet, are fake a lot of times? Do you even know that no one knows for sure who the Ascended Beings even are

          Also Helen Blavatsky, is no better then Alice Bailey who had went to the Lucis Trust School. You say you aren't for Lucifer, well maybe you should read more then about what this all stands for.

          You really do a lot of flipping around

          Bless the Nite'

          April

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