Spiritual Forum

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  1loi1i9evzzvt May 9, 2012 at 4:27am

  It is rather sad in a way because it isn't the real ET Beings talking through channelings saying things that we would be listening to, rather it is postings from other ppl who have provided info on what they feel the GFL would want or what the ET Beings would want.

  The dates and every message sounding the same pretty much, doesn't really add up to what real ET Beings would be talking, or at least I wouldn't think that every ET Being out there from different Star Nations would be thinking exactly the same way as the rest 

  The concept of something like the GFL will be some what tainted now, because we really don't ourselves what it is the real GFL would be saying in there own words 

  It is good though some are opening there eyes some and realizing that we are much more then what the GFL puts out there in some sort of Channeling forum 

  Bless the Nite

  April 
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  John Jancar May 9, 2012 at 3:57am

  Why do people get mad when others badmouth the GF lol Do you guys really put that much of your identity into it. I think HappyKelly once said, it's like insulting my family......get out of here lol Insulting your family, that's crazy. We haven't even met these guys yet. People attach themselves to things so easily. I don't even get upset when people insult my family...that's an ego response. I just think...well fine, you don't know them...so, it's your problem. That's all there is to it. There's no real justification why people should get upset about people badmouthing the GF.

  I mean I believe in the GF, and I've defended them many times on here...but some people take it too far. Where they get upset, and oh you're insulting my family...that's not real. I believe in the GF too, but I don't get insulted when people don't believe in them. I can understand why people don't believe, I can understand why people get suspicious, I can understand why people would start badmouthing them. I don't buy into that idea, but it's understandable why people would think that way, in a way that's smart...we shouldn't just trust any outsider like that, to a point where we become so loyal to them, and so devout...before we even meet them. It smells too much like a religion, it really does.
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    3smn7ct05z5dx > John Jancar May 9, 2012 at 4:17am

    Which David Icke pointed out many years ago was the goal of the cabal in the last stages.  To create a new age religion that is so close yet so far away from the Truth.  To enrapture people in one final world unifying religion in which spiritual control can be exacted upon all at once.  I have watched the new age systems evolve over my life from underground newspapers to money generating cell phone applications.  When people attack and belittle eachother based on beliefs and have doctrine it has become a religion.  Peace and unity comes from accepting anothers belief, with only one rule, Do not harm any other.  We must learn from eachothers beliefs rather than puffing our chests up like gorillas and claiming superiority over one another. 
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      John Jancar > 3smn7ct05z5dx May 9, 2012 at 4:51am

      Well I can understand where you're coming from..even if I don't believe it. Even if I don't think that's the case, that all this is some NWO deception...in fact I think clearly that's not the case...but you know, I can understand why people would think that way. I mean we're all people, first and foremost. Each person is a distinct unique person, within the whole, like cells in a body. All this grouping and categorizing, comes secondary, at best.

      And like the poster posted....why are there so many against us and the GF...against us...against us...see they like to make this an us vs them situation, based on belief. I don't see it that way, I see us all as people...with our own beliefs sure, but still people, still the same basically. The fact that we have our own beliefs shouldn't separate us into different belief categories, that's nonsense. Some people believe in the GF, some people don't. But we're all still people! We're all the same, we're all people, regardless of our beliefs or customs or creeds or race or whatever other division.

      This all happens because people aren't connected to themselves, they identify too much with things outside of themselves, and are too trapped in their minds, which likes to categorize and separate thing into nice little boxes and label them.....they see differences more than they see unity.
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        1loi1i9evzzvt > John Jancar May 9, 2012 at 5:16am

        Honestly the psychology of the Mind, if we have imbalances of the Mind of course we are going to think things that aren't real. IT isn't the Mind though that is the Illusion

        You could say that a thought was an illusion, but you can't say that the Mind is an illusion, because it is real and  real part of our body otherwise we wouldn't all be so different 

        If someone was born with Mental problems and aren't medicated for the Mental problems they were born with, of course there thinking pattern is going to be all messed up, but so will there Heart as well 

        Haven't you heard some ppl say well I had too much to drink, because I felt pain in my Heart, so I wanted to drink it away 

        Bless the Nite

        April 
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          John Jancar > 1loi1i9evzzvt May 9, 2012 at 6:44am

          The mind is real, but the mind is a tool. We're not meant to live in the mind. I mean that's obvious lol Because ultimately, when you're living in the mind, it's not that things aren't real, but they're not as real as if you're living in the heart. And I know that...okay....I know that. True realization comes from the heart level. It comes when you can slow down your thinking and not have your mind race all the time. It comes when your center of perception isn't firmly in the head, but more downwards, in your torso, your heart, your core area where heart charka and your solar plexus and your navel is. And again I'm not saying something I don't know, this isn't just a belief or an idea.

          And yea obviously, not all feelings are good, and not all thoughts are bad lol But ideally, we want to be heart centered, and use the mind when we need to use it. Right? lol Does anyone disagree with that. Or do you think we should be mind centered and only use the heart when we need to. I don't think that's how God meant it to be. I know that to connect to our true inner being, we have to get out of the mind and get into the heart. To be truly light, and truly happy, and truly have love and joy...you have to get into your heart, there's no other way lol I mean how else can I explain it. And I know this is how it is, because this is what I discovered within me, and I know it's the same principal for everyone else.
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        3smn7ct05z5dx > John Jancar May 9, 2012 at 5:00am

        Without a mind that separates and categorizes you would not have been able to make your response.  Try not to blame the organ for the way some choose to use or not use that organ.
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          Marique > 3smn7ct05z5dx May 9, 2012 at 5:28am

          Giving you a standing ovation ONE!  I have said this so often, what is wrong with using one's brains and sense of deductive reasoning.  Humans are born with a brain for a reason, and when anyone advocates NOT using them to think things through, that is pretty scary...lol
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            1loi1i9evzzvt > Marique May 9, 2012 at 5:32am

            Well I just don't understand why so many are scared of using there Minds when it comes to Spirituality for 

            You will see where it will say, Body, Mind, Spirit, so how is it that a person who uses there Mind would be less of a Spiritual being then someone who just feels with the Heart when it comes to Spirituality 

            It just doesn't make any sense to me why some are promoting not to use Mind for Spirituality reasons 

            The other thing that kind of ticks me off as well, and sorry for getting upset a bit on this one. Is the fact that some will say the members are allowed to open up there Crown Chakra area to connect with the Divine Source, but yet they will say things like Heart only 

            So why is it that they can use the Mind like a tool, like that, but we aren't allowed to use the Mind in Spiritual Matters Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

            Bless the Nite

            April 
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          John Jancar > 3smn7ct05z5dx May 9, 2012 at 5:06am

          Well I'm not blaming the mind, obviously. I think people just become too trapped in their minds, I know the mind is important, especially for someone like a scientist, or people who want to understand the structure and workings of the universe. And it's important to have a good mind. But ultimately...it's an illusion. It's not so important, definitely not as important as the spiritual, and the heart. The spiritual and the heart comes first. Then the mind, and how the universe works and how things are ordered and structured. Because ultimately it's an illusion lol I don't think we should put the illusion first.