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true Ann, i agree. it's important to (try) to hold people accountatable for their actions, even if they don't take personal responsibility; & i commend those of you with that kind of warrior~spirit thing that goes to the front lines on this one! it's a huge issue with our species right now. it's odd (& here, i feel like an alien too!) but i've always wanted to be just as "real" as i could, which i innately gathered meant taking PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY & being true to myself/others/etc. when i was a kid, & my brothers would bully me, i'd cry to my father that my brother "made me cry", or "made me..." & his cool response was, "no one can 'make' you do anything you don't "choose" to do/feel. this was so frustrating & heavy to me. i mean, i was four, and i got it! he was right!

why are people so terrified of taking self~responsibility in thoughts/ words/ actions ? wouldn't it ultimately be easier, more empowering?

~agreed cedric and little feather (welcome back lf! ;0) ~ this is just the way it is, & why WE are here, now...

cedric, i like your line, "but inner language the real language we are supposed to be speaking is totally not present in most persons.." the darnest thing is, i've always spoken THAT language (& i tone it down tremendously) ! the response to my directness, and lack of having an underlying motive has so frequently has been anger, & people feel challenged by me. i mean, i'm not the buddah, and believe me, everytime i get in my car & try to navigate my way around SF, i lose about 5,000 karmic points with the words that fly from my lips, lol! :0/ i guess i'm saying, it's not easy to be a truth~sayer; keeping in mind that there are a multitude of truths for each individual thing!

to be "right" is not always to be popular, and i mean "right" not in the ego~based~my~way~or~the~highway kind of way, but in the GOOD INTENTIONS, HUMBLE, PATIENT, LOVING, UNIVERSAL LAW OF COMPASSIONATE KINDNESS kind of "right" way. it kinda goes back to the idea that not everyone is READY or willing to accept anything out of their own mental/emotional/spiritua/theological comfort zone (yet). this has always been the case~ i mean look what "they" did to JC! MLK Jr., JFK, etc. (the list is too long!) you know, the whole "you can take the horse to water, but.." thing.

there is so much subtext & false intention behind many peoples words & actions (this too, is conditioning~understand, not everyone even has the tools to speak that 'inner language'), all you can really do is persevere and be courageous, and yes, come to understand that by being true to your own truth, and trying to help other people wake up, you may alienate quite a few people~ even those closest to you.

it could be a lonely road at times... especially with that mouth of yours!! JUST KIDDING! i love your feistiness! ;0)

~sometimes i want to make a tee~shirt that says "don't take ME so personally~ in other words, just "do you", keep it real, up the good fight!~ namaste~

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Cedric April 5, 2010 at 9:37pm

We do not live in a perfect world yet...So how do we go about it to make it more perfect? Do we stop lying completely and see how far we get? i shure take a stroll when i ask things...lol
Cedric April 5, 2010 at 9:31pm

Lol...about the bathroom...i was trying to say that you could not lie to yourself even if you wanted to on the diference of going...lol...so why lie about other things. Or in other words i can not pretend to myself that a d..p is the same as a P.ss, it would be confusing and shit would hit the fan...lol
- Merryn > Cedric April 6, 2010 at 7:09am
  
  Naa, still not getting it Cedric, nevermind! ; )
Marique April 5, 2010 at 8:41pm

Ditto, Ditto, Ditto, Ann, Cedric, Kahilla, and Littlefeather. I could not have expressed any better how you all feel and am in total agreement, and am so in the same place. You know how outspoken I am, and thanks for saying all you just said so I don't have to elaborate, you have saved the members here from one of my long rambles......whew, oh and ditto to Jean Francois too! Great discussion, I thought I was alone in feeling this way......glad my homies are in it with me.
JEAN FRANCOIS April 5, 2010 at 7:05pm

dido dude...the normal everyday conversation people have in a group makes me sick..
i wanna scream or slap em around a bit..i do neither...:)
- 3rfl3nfqndi4s > JEAN FRANCOIS April 5, 2010 at 8:46pm
  
  I hear that, Jean. What is considered "small talk" is a waste of time for me most of the time. Depends on the person and how "small" the talk is. lol
  
  As for lying......that is the ONE lesson I learned from my Mother when I got my legs switched until they bled for lying. Learned that lesson very quickly. Lying is just another form of cowardice. And, PLEASE don't lie to me to spare my "feelings". It is truly amazing to me the number of people who will lie when the Truth would better serve.
kahlila April 5, 2010 at 6:13pm

true Ann, i agree. it's important to (try) to hold people accountatable for their actions, even if they don't take personal responsibility; & i commend those of you with that kind of warrior~spirit thing that goes to the front lines on this one! it's a huge issue with our species right now. it's odd (& here, i feel like an alien too!) but i've always wanted to be just as "real" as i could, which i innately gathered meant taking PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY & being true to myself/others/etc. when i was a kid, & my brothers would bully me, i'd cry to my father that my brother "made me cry", or "made me..." & his cool response was, "no one can 'make' you do anything you don't "choose" to do/feel. this was so frustrating & heavy to me. i mean, i was four, and i got it! he was right!

why are people so terrified of taking self~responsibility in thoughts/ words/ actions ? wouldn't it ultimately be easier, more empowering?
- 3rfl3nfqndi4s > kahlila April 5, 2010 at 8:43pm
  
  And, Kahlila, you come across as VERY real, which is the thing I admire most in any human being. Just BE real. Don't attempt to impress me.....cause I can see through you like looking through a glass.
kahlila April 5, 2010 at 5:46pm

~agreed cedric and little feather (welcome back lf! ;0) ~ this is just the way it is, & why WE are here, now...

cedric, i like your line, "but inner language the real language we are supposed to be speaking is totally not present in most persons.." the darnest thing is, i've always spoken THAT language (& i tone it down tremendously) ! the response to my directness, and lack of having an underlying motive has so frequently has been anger, & people feel challenged by me. i mean, i'm not the buddah, and believe me, everytime i get in my car & try to navigate my way around SF, i lose about 5,000 karmic points with the words that fly from my lips, lol! :0/ i guess i'm saying, it's not easy to be a truth~sayer; keeping in mind that there are a multitude of truths for each individual thing!

to be "right" is not always to be popular, and i mean "right" not in the ego~based~my~way~or~the~highway kind of way, but in the GOOD INTENTIONS, HUMBLE, PATIENT, LOVING, UNIVERSAL LAW OF COMPASSIONATE KINDNESS kind of "right" way. it kinda goes back to the idea that not everyone is READY or willing to accept anything out of their own mental/emotional/spiritua/theological comfort zone (yet). this has always been the case~ i mean look what "they" did to JC! MLK Jr., JFK, etc. (the list is too long!) you know, the whole "you can take the horse to water, but.." thing.

there is so much subtext & false intention behind many peoples words & actions (this too, is conditioning~understand, not everyone even has the tools to speak that 'inner language'), all you can really do is persevere and be courageous, and yes, come to understand that by being true to your own truth, and trying to help other people wake up, you may alienate quite a few people~ even those closest to you.

it could be a lonely road at times... especially with that mouth of yours!! JUST KIDDING! i love your feistiness! ;0)

~sometimes i want to make a tee~shirt that says "don't take ME so personally~ in other words, just "do you", keep it real, up the good fight!~ namaste~
- Cedric > kahlila April 5, 2010 at 6:13pm
  
  Wel i am known to be a person of few words. I can be without talking all day and in two words put everybody in place...or out of place...depends on where you stand...or sit...lol. Something interesting came up about this yes or no being truth full. Like is truth with a few white lies still truth,what would happen if we would tel the truth every second of the day? Would we die faster? Let's see with a example. Would you be lying if you would divert a killers atention for your kids,by mis-informing him on their where-abouts. This is one of those moments where you just stepped into the lying world to fix something,what would it be like if you just could not lie at all? And could not play into this guys game? Would you end up like let's say Jesus by lack of example...I ask because i shure have fallen on my face manny times in life keeping up the truth. Like when you need to take a d..p,you can not lie and pretend your going to take a p.ss. Right!? I love the don't take ME so personally thing... :))