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    Hindya > Jason June 6, 2009 at 10:35am

    Thank you for your wonderful message I consider animals like my brothers and sisters
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  Claudia June 6, 2009 at 4:39am

  Thanks very much for this compassionated message,
  as we are eating the suffering from ours brothers animals, we receive their fears, sadnes, toxins and we can not be happy being complices for their dead,
  as we are in a spiritual path we must feed ours bodys with fruits & vegetables as "natural" as posible, like "raw" or nearly, steam and no to much cook,
  we need "organic" food,
  we can't have sinthetic food, or all the antibiotics, hormons and all the things they receive for food,is no good for ours bodys
  take care for your body is easy and in the same time,
  we take care for all the planet,
  As we are One, we must thing like that, what we don't want for us, we don't want for Others!!!
  Light & Unconditional Love to All,
  Claudia.
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    Vagelis4VP > Claudia June 15, 2009 at 6:21pm

    Claudia....i agree totally with you,and with many of the other posts also... i have quit eating most of the meat many years ago...but im not total vegetarian yet...i eat a chicken leg 2-3 times per month..and some fish also,from time to time...Maybe in the future i quit eating these also..i agree about raw food..its great and healthy nutrition...
    I'll give you also the recipe for my favorite breakfast,which i started making recently..and its super yummy...
    Ice-cream (Vanilla-chocolate,which i make myself at home), and i put in: exotic fruits(banana,kiwi,strawberries or cherries),some oat,a few almonds,and some sunflower seeds...i put also on top small trims of coconut, and choco and caramel syrup...if u eat a bowl of this each morning u will have full energy for all day... :)
    We need to start to move more and more to raw food nutrition...
    
    Blessings to all.. :)
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      Merryn > Vagelis4VP January 27, 2010 at 8:47am

      The dairy industry has some pretty interesting animal welfare issues around it too....(I'm thinking of your icecream).... (sounds yum though!)
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  cici June 6, 2009 at 12:15am

  Please don't take this the wrong way and in no way is this a sarcastic comment, but aren't plants beautiful sentient beings as well ? They grace the planet and provide us with oxygen to breathe. I know this is a matter of degree and I know we have to eat. True cultures honor their animals and ask permission to kill them for food and give thanks afterwards......it so happens today we do not follow this ritual.
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    flashstorm > cici June 6, 2009 at 12:59am

    Yes it is a matter of degree, and to take this to the extreme be kind to plants, it would be ideal to take fruits that do not harm the plants, or pick cucumbers, beans, corn etc. and of course we do not harvest wheat while it is still alive. Or if we eat root vegetables, to wait until the plant actually withers before we pull the root vegetables up. There are many ways of being compassionate to plants and still receiving the benefit of their produce. However this is not the issue. I don't have a problem with indigenous peoples respecting animals before they kill them and living harmoniously with them although even this is not ideal, yet in a small population when this is done with discretion the problem is not that great. The problem is when we are killing on a MASSIVE scale BILLIONS of animals each year, far more than the entire population of humans on the planet, to feed our excess while destroying the planet in the process. The excess and indifference is staggering. Furthermore we have advanced to the point where we do not have to eat animals to survive such as could be argued for the indigenous tribes of the past although that point is moot. Yes we must respect the spirit in plants as well as in animals, yet if only half the population of the world became basic vegetarians we would be able to reduce greatly the massive suffering that we are causing in the world. Harvesting plants even when done without compassion does not cause anywhere near the scale of terror, pain, sorrow and horror as we currently cause to animals with our practices.
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      flashstorm > flashstorm June 6, 2009 at 1:50am

      NOTE: Some Buddhists say that plants are not sentient beings, yet for all intents and purposes plants have a spirit and astral substance which acts as an emotional body. Yet in most cases the emotional body of plants is no where near as developed as animals or humans, so they do not have the range of feelings that humans and animals experience. The exception is some trees and plants are inhabited by fully conscious spiritual beings who are free to project themselves to wherever they please and are described as some of the nature spirits of lore. These watch over the plant kingdoms and reveal the secrets and purposes of plants. In a sane world we would have the wisdom to discern these things and treat great trees and such with utmost respect, we would work in harmony with them and they would help us. I mean deforestation is a big crime for many reasons. But before you can teach an insane person wisdom, you have to cure them of their insanity so they are in a normal frame of mind. We have to stop the insanity of cruelty to animals before we can learn the wisdom of the plant world.
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  Fernanda June 5, 2009 at 11:31pm

  Hi,
  I have now been a vegetarian for more than 24 years and I am in good health and very happy , I consider animals like my brothers ans sisters ,Wild dear and birds approach me easily, because there are not threatened.
  I believe that in order to create peace on earth and stop wars, everyone should be vegan or vegetarian, because we are ALL ONE !
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  Staffan June 5, 2009 at 10:55pm

  If you are an animallover you can´t eat your friends.....if you do....don´t call yourself an animallover
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  NancyKay June 5, 2009 at 9:18pm

  I have recently been making changes in my life and in my diet. I have been reading books on the subject of becoming vegetarian. This is a perfect example of information being available when we ask. Thank you so much for passing this along, and I hope that it helps many more who are seeking purification of body and mind. Thank you for all of the valuable information that you make available everyday.