Spiritual Forum

Replies

• 

  3smn7ct05z5dx July 7, 2012 at 6:46pm

  I also want to add that the events from acts sound like the "god" dropped a box from "heaven" filled with animals and it describes a parachute I think.  

  And this is where we get into the other side of ancient texts where they seem to indicate some strange things occuring that are oddly like things we have today.  I think it is Job, who describes being taken to heaven in something very much like an alien craft or jet or rocket, I havent read that one in a while and cant remember the exact description.  There are truths and untruths in all ancient texts and we must rationally and calmly and without bias search every single thing out before we declare anything is "real" or not.
• 

  3smn7ct05z5dx July 7, 2012 at 6:40pm

  Despite the fact that the first person to preach about jesus said he was never on earth but only the christ conciousness many speak of, people still cling to the belief that this man was real and actually died on that cross.  There are many indicators that show IF this man was alive, his execution would not have gone like this.  People take a week to die from crucifixtion usually.  So we will allow that jesus was tortured more than the average criminal.  Jesus was crucified during passover.  Jesus and all his buddies were jewish, so during passover jews dont touch dead bodies.  They get the gentiles to do it for them.  NONE of those people would have touched jesus' body until after passover.  Now lets get back to some verifiable facts about "jesus" nothing of him was written until 60-80 years AFTER his death, all his buddies were around his age, so they wouldnt have been alive then to write them then.  Also the 4 gospels of matt mark luke and john cannot agree on his birthday.  Odd dont you think that his disciples whop are like the ultimate fans dont know his birthday, off by YEARS, not just the date. It is pure fabricated fiction.

  However we must ALSO not forget that fairy tales and fiction are great for teaching lessons using situations and characters that people can relate with.  When reading the new testament if you get a good version of it, jesus words will be in different colour ink.  My copy of the king james bible includes jesus' words in red ink, so you can skim through and learn the LESSONS, but we need not worship this character anymore than we should worship chicken little or the boy who cried wolf who also taught us great lessons.  The bible was written from 5000 to 2000 or so years ago for THOSE time and those people and ways that would help THEM live.  Does not apply mostly to now, yet there are still great things said for instance.

  Many here are under the impression eating meat is some sort of evil act deserving of eternity in hell. however we see many spots telling us to kill and eat whatever we want to which I will post now.

  Acts 10:9-13

  King James Version (KJV)

  ⁹ On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:

  ¹⁰ And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,

  ¹¹ And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:

  ¹² Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.

  ¹³ And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.

   

  Luke 10:8

  King James Version (KJV)

  ⁸ And into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you, eat such things as are set before you:
  

   

   

  Mark 7:14-23

  King James Version (KJV)

  ¹⁴ And when he had called all the people unto him, he said unto them, Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand:

  ¹⁵ There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.

  ¹⁶ If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.

  ¹⁷ And when he was entered into the house from the people, his disciples asked him concerning the parable.

  ¹⁸ And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;

  ¹⁹ Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?

  ²⁰ And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.

  ²¹ For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,

  ²² Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:

  ²³ All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

   

  I love how jesus gives them a nice verbal browbeating.  That still doesnt make him real though, only that his lessons are valid and important IF they are relevant to the times.  In the old testament there are strict guidelines for sacrifices made to god.  Not applicable today.  So when looking at ANY ancient text or belief that cannot really be proven or disproven, we must simply then just look at the lessons that are universal from these different systems. 
  

   

  As for mary if these folks were real she would have been jesus wife most certainly, ,and im pretty sure the only mention of her in the "accepted" gospels after the council of myneah or mycea or whatever it was, is she is the girl from the stone throwing incident, let ye who hath not sinned cast the first stone.  So no wonder she became infatuated with this guy who saved her from the town stoning her to death.
  
• 

  Drome July 7, 2012 at 8:06am

  My interpretation of the holy spirit is the basic consciousness of the four elements (earth, fire, air, water) making up the fifth element (akasha).
• 

  Adonai El Ra July 7, 2012 at 6:53am

  well from the catholic perspective the teachings are just that, but from an understanding perspective the teachings are nothing more than the true teachings passed down as interpretations by people that dont understand.  Why else would the walk be about the journey, if the teachings and interpretations alone were the answer, most people would have already ascended.  We have to find the truth within by finding where the teachings and reality merge.  Another's teachings of the teachings is not going to teach you anything but confusion because they are teaching from a confused point of view themselves, though such confusion may be more or less from person to person, its still going to get confused when taken in by the learner.  The truth will need to be distilled and refined through experience, to capture the essence and meaning of its reality.
• 

  hunter July 7, 2012 at 12:23am

  it could be written that the holy spirit IS

  the sentience that exists between all space and with in all space

  it is the direction, temperature,humidity, aroma and velocity of the prevailing breeze at every point and in turn perspective that is

  constantly and simultaneously

  loved

  enjoy
• 

  1b68rzb1bc337 July 6, 2012 at 7:52pm

  Ask yourself that...because you already know the answer..
• 

  Elijah July 6, 2012 at 5:22pm

  Holy spirit has to do with the perfected Higher-Self oversoul, which stands on the threshold between the physical incarnated soul being & the spiritual soul domain. The father-aspect has also to do with the Monadic/ IAM Presence God-self of the soul incarnate. Thus were borne the concept of the: Father(Monad/God-Self), Son(Soul Incarnate), & holy spirit (Oversoul).

   

  Namaste!
• 

  DRACO July 6, 2012 at 3:38pm

  There is no intermediatry between you and god. There is nothing stopping you from speaking to or directly connecting with god. Don't listen to the insidious lies perpetuated by the Roman Catholic church that you are unworthy of this.

  For more than a thousand years they have been suppressing important spiritual knowledge from the people of the world and mercilessly stealing untold wealth from their congregations to line their own greedy coffers. What is most sickening of all is that the so-called-pope has the supreme arrogance to claim that he is christs representative on earth.

  The sooner they are exposed for what they are, and the world rid of this evil and wicked institution, the better all will be.