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  OEUSA (Abel) February 24, 2012 at 5:55pm

  Marianinia I have no problems with Stelans either, infact I
  understand their actions on a personal level. However, you're correct
  in saying we make people what they are, but what would you make
  of someone who is trying to help you? Would you make them good
  in your mind? Or would you take a step back for a second look? The
  whole purpose of my questions is to initiate a whole perspective in
  anyone who is onesided to believe that Stelans 'Help' in a way that is
  ONLY for the good. I'm not here to put a negative perspective on
  anyone though, as I also always believe there is a good & bad for
  everything. I simply only question for others to consider what the real
  role of being a Stelan might be.. A role that doesn't just involve
  helping the above, but one that helps the below as well. A role that is
  whole & not just positive.     
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  OEUSA (Abel) February 24, 2012 at 11:11am

  Marianinia I understand, but how do we know that the stelans that
  others say want to clean & save this planet, aren't the same ones who
  introduced the need to be cleaned & saved? These beings are smart
  to say the least. In 3D reality they have to work with the laws of karma.
  They understand Human psychology, specially after watching us since
  our creation. & they know that if you don't give an animal food, the
  animal will eventually want it & in our case, ask for it. I find it hard to
  believe we put the universe in danger, when we've had intelligent
  beings overhead, making sure things don't get out of hand all along.
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  victa February 24, 2012 at 10:04am

  by the way, if they forced us to live better, then they will have to pay for such Kama for themselves

  just as the evil have to pay for their Kama for making us suffer without our intentions

  Earth is a freewill zone, and it means do not interfere other's free will or it will occur unbalance and that creates kama
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    OEUSA (Abel) > victa February 24, 2012 at 10:33am

    Youre exactly right Victa. They can't distort Earths karma until
    the cycle of duality has finished. Even if its for the greater good, the
    Karmic scales would unbalance & that'd be against the rule of God.
    But in theory, what would you do if a planet was without karma &
    needed a push to initiate its creative forces? Its obvious if there is an
    imbalance, something or someone has to be there to balance it out.
    Wether it'd be for yin or yang. How are we to believe that the same
    Stelans that claim to want to assist us, at some point in our history,
    weren't the same beings that people claim theyre assisting us from?
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      victa > OEUSA (Abel) February 24, 2012 at 11:25am

      I dont' really know who's Stelans (but i guess he's one of the Galactic Federation of Light)

      and i really duno what will happen if a world without karma, it would sound like a mess? maybe it exist in lower dimantions?  

      And i do think the good ones are helping us long time ago, i guess that where budda, jesus and all other religion come from, eventho all of religion is purposely misleading and miss used by evils. 

      Also, there is something i don't understand too, when i was a kid i always thought balance of yin and young means, u have to have both evil and bad, i know it dosn't sounds right, but isn't balance mean having everthing at the same time? i know this souds stupid, but.. ya... just a question
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        OEUSA (Abel) > victa February 24, 2012 at 11:52am

        To make it simpler to understand, you need good & bad to make
        everything unfold. Just like a battery needs a positive & a negative
        to work.
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          victa > OEUSA (Abel) February 24, 2012 at 12:35pm

          which means, there is no way to be pure good?! or its not balance to be pure good?
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            OEUSA (Abel) > victa February 24, 2012 at 5:16pm

            Every main force has to have two aspects no matter what. However,
            ill answer your second question with some questions & let you decide
            for yourself; What do you think would happen if you were looking
            after your creation & all of a sudden destructive entities wanted to
            take over? What would happen if no one did anything to help out
            because they were just too good to take some defensive action? 
            It really comes down to your perspective here in duality & what YOU
            believe pure goodness & balance to be.
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        OEUSA (Abel) > victa February 24, 2012 at 11:43am

        Victa, Stelans are E.T's.. However, what you tell me isn't stupid at all.
        Infact its quite the opposite. Whoever thought you about karma & 
        lead you to understand that both good & bad are necessary, thought
        you correctly. Being balanced is following the path between yin & yang
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  victa February 24, 2012 at 9:51am

  they are here for long, this world don't really exist, the goal is not to help life to be better, they here to help us to leverage our conscious. and 2012 is the time where the sun is active and earth herself wish to shift into higher conscious levels. 

  They can never help us without us willing to get helped, and that means most of human's demanding the same thing, and realize the fact that money and material stuff is not what we really want, even we all died its okey, we can simply return life and re-do, the world is about learning some lessons and i believe that is LOVE.