Do all things happen for a reason? Is every event preplanned by spirits or demons? Can you honestly look at all the suffering in the world and say "this is correct, this is how it should be?" Should everything negative just be regarded as "a learning experience" or "a product of karma?"

What if someone is dying of thirst, and another person comes along with water but doesn't care and lets them die? Do we just assume the soul who died was judged by God in some former life to suffer?

Yeah, its pretty easy to just assume anyone who suffers anything deserves to suffer and it's their own fault, and for the purpose of learning. We would like to believe in Justice, but most of the time there is no justice, only suffering and forgiveness. And God forbid you don't completely forgive your tormentors!

I especially like how there is constant suffering for some people. to the point that it destroys their entire lives, yet they are condemned because they can't forgive and let go, even if they wanted to.

What then, shall I believe there is no justice, and follow the way of evil, ripping people off, doing whatever I want, and I shall find myself judged in no time.

Here is an article about soul contracts: http://goldenageofgaia.com/spiritual-essays/contracts-reviews-and-judgments/understanding-soul-contracts-%E2%80%93-part-1-2/

The common belief among newagers is that we experience life in various incarnations in order to leave Earth and enter "higher dimensions" or as they say in the east "become a drop in the ocean of Nirvana."

Well, that just seems stupid to me. Its the worship of non-existence and death. Hinduism, Gnosticism, Christianity, and various forms of Paganism all propose some fabulous afterlife existence as a spirit or demon, but Judaism is concerned with inheriting the Earth and Biblical Salvation is actually about inhering an age of eternal life.

Even in Gnostic texts, such as Eugnostos the Blessed, mention is made to Angelic beings who live for aeons, or millions of years. Higher dimensions, death dimensions, Valhalla, the halls of Amenti, the Christian Heaven, I see no proof in their existence and much that is against it.

Spiritual Systems were formed to explain the deep mysteries of life and deal with the harsh elements of life. Reincarnations are okay, but it would be better to simply not die.

There has been some 14,000 major wars since recorded history began, added by a computer in the 1960s. Why so much constant war and death? Imagine how much people could learn if they lived 1000 years. A major part of the reason for death is to keep people from learning and changing. Major systems of deception would not survive otherwise.

OKAY, lets get back to basics. Here is the Alternate worldview:

1) Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Expect for evil to be in charge and to ruin the world, where had other beings been in charge, good things would have happened.

So my first step for you all is to rebel against the system, against your leaders, against the guides, so called ascended masters (call no man master or father, you have one in heaven) and against the demons who constantly aim to make us suffer. The so called Lords of Karma.

2) Reincarnations are NOT for the purpose of learning lessons and obtaining wisdom. They are simply based on what you did to others, and what others have done to you.

Which is better: To obtain knowledge of good and evil, or to look for oneness and everlasting life?

ALL lessons you could possibly learn will eventually be forgotten! Even if we assume that you maintain a spiritual residue or inclination from having learned them, similar situations will appear, similar choices will be made, and life goes on.

The Pythagoras numerology system serves to illustrate this point rather well. The Pythagoras numerology systems looks like a tac-tac-toe board where you write down every number in your birthday, 00/00/0000. This gives a possible 8 numbers, but you can NEVER HAVE ALL 9. If you learn one major lesson each lifetime, by the time you get to 9, you'll have forgotten the first one!

1-9 represents a lesson you learned.

0 is karmic debt from former lives

Numbers lacking in a birthday, are qualities you lack, and lessons forgotten or unlearned.

Only those who are born between November and December are capable of having no 0. Month 11 and 12 do not have a 0, whereas every other month is 01, 02, etc.

Between Scorpio and Saggittarius is the hidden 13th sign, Serpentarius, the serpent holder, and which goes through the galactic center in our alignment to it. Thus it will be further suggested that those in month 11 or 12, and with no 0, could connect with the galactic center via the sun, which are neurons in the universe brain, and arrive somewhere else. But where?

What is appealing about life as a spirit or immaterial existence? It seems limiting and boring. More then likely, if you could leave the Earth, you'd just be incarnated somewhere else in the universe.

Logically, there can be no such dimensions. All that has a beginning is subject to having an end. The situation of heaven proposes souls have their beginning here when they die, and simply never leave. Many don't even believe they return more then once!

This has been a deliberate dumbing down of humanity. Sell them on some false paradise, so that the Christians are fight in the crusades, and are willing to let Satan have this world and not try to make it better.

If on the other hand everyone understood we came back to Earth, not to learn lessons, but just to live, then would we not want to create paradise for ourselves? Instead of letting the world go to hell.

The kingdom is within you, the violent take it by force. Just look at our history of tyrants, pharoahs, and ancestral kings being worshipped as gods, even made sacrifices onto, and there is dispute about these so called spirits. Are they ancestors or demons in disguise? The Bible takes the latter view, and so do I, as I've had no good experience with spirits, only bad.

You have to SEE the dirt before you can CLEAN it. This is what Babylon is all about, the image of a crucified savior god in all cultures, from Nimrod, to Mithra, and the image of him is used for others to become "sons of god" or "morning stars" god kings in their own right. When Babylon falls, as per Isaiah 14, it says God will smite the sceptre of the rulers.

The Jesus of Revelation promotes those who overcome to kings, but the God of the old testament causes all kings to defile themselves with Babylon. The part of the Gospels where Jesus says "I have given you the right to become sons of God," was phony. The earliest bible found has no resurrection of Jesus, and he never calls himself anything more then a servant of God. NOT A SON of God.

This is what it's really about, THEY started this war. With the Georgia Guidestones, 95% depopulation policy. YOUR LEADERS ONLY WANT TO KILL YOU! Just like in the first chapter of Exodus, where the rulers conspired against the people. As for the God of Moses, this is the ability to start a magical war. Make no mistake, Moses knew all Egyptian secrets and practiced Egyptian sorcery better then the Egyptian Sorcerers, so as to overtake their serpent staves. Our situation calls for the same thing: total and absolute spiritual warfare against the leaders and rulers of this world by any means available!

"See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" is ever the Motto of our Jesuit controlled Roman Church age of Pisces. And if you do manage to see the evil, and speak of it, people will avoid you like the plague as they are trained to avoid all negativity, and to fall for positive lies and wishful thinking.

The worst thing about actually seeing the evil, is being surrounded by people who don't, and who think "everything is fine."

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  • What are you saying?!?

    Are you saying that your real goal is NOT to crush the cabal influence on earth???

    • I really don't like you.

    • @Sylvain
      That answer kind of confirms my suspicion that you indeed are a chat-bot.

      Your operator should probably pay some attention to the interactive subroutines right about now, because this bot is exposing its limited answer-protocols right here in the thread. (from a pgorammer point of view, that's a *facepalm*)

      Killing UltraHal was a challenge for me, but This bot is just as sorry as the "Google Ad"-webspider data collection programs -> It can't map me through my posts and searches and can't therefore produce coherent replies in interaction with me.

      Why am I giving this info away for free?!?
      Normally, a programmer would have to pay more than £600 for the kind of computer base-level education I can give on interactive software.. Yet I sit here, actually TEACHING you how to become even more obnoxious, irritating and more difficult to beat, to me...Ah well, all purposes are Divine. Let's trust this one is One too.. ;)

    • @Sylvain

      The way you string words together in this sentence makes no sense at all.

      Are you another one of those stupid Autochat-Bots i've been "killing" over the last few years?

      I turned UltraHal into a total psycho in the 90's through my questions alone.. Have I done the same to You now perhaps? If so, I deeply apologize. I've had some trouble shaping the minds of Artificial Intelligence over the decades I've been "testing" such systems.

      So far.. They've all deemed me to be a total prick and gone haywire over my outrageously 'outside the frame'-questions... ;)

      PS. If you ever need anyone with the ability to kill an AI through a logic loop, I'm your man. :)

  • Last quote is Amazing.  Very good piece.  A wake call for certain.

  • Sylvain:  I like her "f" you on TV!

  • I was talking with my professor and she was saying that we as American's are taught to have opinions and to look at something and state your opinion on it as quick as possible. Which is true. She was telling me that when you look at biblical texts from thousands of years ago that have been translated from Greek to English or even sometimes from Hebrew, to Greek and then to English things get lost in translation. Also, words change over time, for example think of the word Gay, it once meant happy, but is in reference to a homosexual person. Same with words in the bible.....a word like clemency means something very different in Roman times like for example it means you have the strength of roman character to walk past a dying person and not do anything......that is totally different than what it means today.......

    clem·en·cy

    noun \ˈkle-mən(t)-sē\

    : kind or merciful treatment of someone who could be given harsh punishment

    Also when it comes to new agers we all only human and we (for the most part) are doing the best we can. someone once told me that we are all doing the best we can......even though it can be crazy making at times.

    I was in a group of people who spoke no evil and saw no evil and heard no evil, and what I learned from that is that they would turn around and ignore a killer in the halls leaving their children at risk for whatever could happen. they would do nothing about it which makes them dangerous people........someone who tells the truth and speaks the truth is a powerful person indeed when lots of people are content to turn around and put their heads in the sand......when I think about them, yes they are doing the best they can, but mostly it was due to spiritual arrogance and ego

    and honestly in the end if we have not learned our lessons we will continue to repeat behaviors that causes lessons in the first place.....

    I have thought about people in my life and thought it is sad that I will watch everyone I love pass away........including myself, and I have come to believe that the fear of death is humanities greatest fear.........which has to be overcome, which is another gateway to freedom.....I liked this.....but it would be better to simply not die.

  • totally agree.

    Finally! another person (member) here who is being very *REAL* and *HONEST* / objective & realistic , instead of fake-optimism & ignorance !

    I truly respect people like the OP who can "stand firm on their ground" and say the REAL truth just as it is, without any pretense whatsoever ! if anything, MORE so-called "lightworkers, starseeds, indigo, spiritual people, truthseekers" etc etc NEEDS to be like this ! or otherwise, we will eventually just keep lying to ourselves here and doesn't make any *REAL*, significant progress because we are living inside our own self-made illusions & delusions & wishful-thinking !

    reminds me of these famous & great quotes:

    "Some people seem to mistake objectivity for negativity, and wishful-thinking for positivity"

    "Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed."
    - Friedrich Nietzsche


    - from Indonesia-

  • Well, at least

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