Ashtar Command Crew - The Awakening Movement

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  Roaring Lovely August 17, 2021 at 1:49pm

  "The swamp needs to be drained as they say and the corrupt judges removed from their positions. "
  
  But this is exactly what I wanted to say. However, the kind of replies I got (beginning from Movella ) is like the 'don't worry, everything is under control', and so my pointing of the problem of media biased was completly eclipsed by 'nothing is wrong with America, anyway,...er...but the cabal are doing genocide, rigging election,....er,...er...but we are in full control,...er,....er..., but the judges are corrupt,...er,...,but we are free and winning in courts,....er,...but the swamp needs to be drained,...er,...."
  
  You see how you guys are taking me?
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  Roaring Lovely August 17, 2021 at 1:22pm

  To elaborate it a bit, a leader 'in control' is judged not just on what he DOES. He is equaly complicit in what he ALLOWS, for at no point will all humans be righteous. So if we need to allow crimes for pple to see it themselves, why stop anywhere? Why not allow bank robbery, bombings, killings etc by ANY individual? Why allow only some few rich, wicked idiots to do all the evil they want?
  
  A president only needs to ALLOW corruption for him to be equally complicit in corruption!! He doesn't need to do corruption himself!
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  Roaring Lovely August 17, 2021 at 1:09pm

  "Justin89636 August 17, 2021 at 12:52pm
  The patriots do have it all. The reason for all the terrible things still going on and why the deep state cabal has been allowed to get away with recent events examples being the 2020 election, the covid scam , etc is because the patriots need the people to wake up and allowing the people to see this in real time is causing an awakening."
  
  Very unconvincing!!! I was about to be open to the 'cabal' narative but such an explanations may make me to set back and re-think!
  
  It is like saying 'God is in control but has allowed the devil to fuck things up so that all may see for themselves, but Jesus is comming soon, anyway, and he will tie up the devil and send him to the bottomless pit'!
  
  In reality, a commissioned human cannot allow crime to happen and yet not be complicit in any way. Perhaps God can do that, but not human. Can a police or electoral body go to court and say that he allowed rigging of votes so that 'people may see the criminals themselves?'. Will he win such a case?
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  Sirian Starlight August 17, 2021 at 1:01pm

  https://www.ashtarcommandcrew.net/forum/topics/is-it-our-place-to-s...

  

  Is It Our Place To Step In?

  Is it our place to do something about the status of Earth, humanity and rising tensions planet wide? Here are some ideas if you believe in this conce…
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  Roaring Lovely August 17, 2021 at 12:58pm

  "Maybe if you feel so strongly about Americans and America, you should get one to respond to you...Both Movella and I are English...Sirian starseeds."
  
  Of course I knew this. If you were American, I would not have said .😉 I wanted to 'gossip' Americans, lol!
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  Drekx Omega August 17, 2021 at 12:36pm

  

  RL quote: "I guess I have accidentally found how to corner an American (especially the 'patriotic' one) talking of the cabal story. Force him to choose between one of these incompatible stories." end quote by RL.
  
  Maybe if you feel so strongly about Americans and America, you should get one to respond to you...Both Movella and I are English...Sirian starseeds.
  Personally I like America and Americans...For us, they are friends and cousins..
  Yes there is polarity in all nations...We observe this struggle between the US Constitution and the USA Corporation..The one chartered in Puerto Rico in 1872, with it's fake "federal bank" finance arm; the Federal Reserve, founded in 1913..And the 3rd central bank takeover in America, since 1776.
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  Roaring Lovely August 17, 2021 at 11:18am

  

  But I wanted to say that there is a loophole in US constitution that has facilitated the growth of cabal. US emphasized 'freedom de-jure' and neglected 'freedom de-facto'. Fairness is more important than 'freedom de-jure' because it brings more 'freedom de-facto'. Lets, for instance, take the game rules. What if we say you are free to use very expensive doping in sports, any shoes you want etc, and then the referees are biased, de-facto, but not so de-jure etc. Next, what if we create tight rules for the game but referees are un-biased de-facto? Which game will you choose? A game with lots of 'freedom' but biased referees or a game with tight rules but applied fairly to all players?
  
  We can definitely constrain freedom de-jure to create more fairness and hence promote more 'freedom de-facto', and such constraints pose no problem provided it is applied fairly and equally to all, a thing that is undermined by a lack of 'freedom de-facto' that is caused by too much 'freedom de-jure'!!
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  Roaring Lovely August 17, 2021 at 10:13am

  I guess I have accidentally found how to corner an American (especially the 'patriotic' one) talking of the cabal story. Force him to choose between one of these incompatible stories:
  
  1.)The cabal has completely taken control of US to the extend that such plans as 9-11 attacks was planned and executed by the cabal.
  2.)US is a free democratic country wherein their government is checked well by its citizens. Ergo, its system should be emulated across the world.😉
  
  The second makes him proud for being an American, but then there are issues that makes him ashamed of being one😆. So the first story needs to be created!!
  
  The cabal is the scapegoat, should an American be cornered with facts that shows that their country is not worth emulating!!
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  Roaring Lovely August 17, 2021 at 9:50am

  

  "...ELECTION FRAUD PROOFS.."
  
  Did I hear 'election fraud'?...therefore US is not free!! Unfortunately, you cannot say that the 'patriots' are in control and at the same time say that they have imposed evil, genocidal vaccine rules etc!!
  
  So all these are what the patriots allows?? The 'patriots' rule the US but have opted to allow the evil pple to rule, anyway? This makes the patriot equally complicit!! How do you describe a policeman who allows a bomber to pass to a town and says 'he was in control, nevertheless'. He is trying to enjoy both the prestige of 'being in control' while conveniently dodging all the responsibility for the evil things??? No way!! This is unconvincing to me!😉
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  Drekx Omega August 17, 2021 at 9:39am

  The Dark Cabal is completely losing control in America and elsewhere...Biden is not a real US President....The Patriots are in control in the US and they are allowing the dark playground to do it's thing, DELIBERATELY...This wakes people on the left also..The Space Force has it all....ELECTION FRAUD PROOFS..