KELLY: Saturn has a very important bright side that many people fail to talk about: a valuable reward that is sometimes given away from this very restrictive energy source (i.e. Saturn) and of which is also a valuable lesson desired by others since this reward is RARELY taught or "given away" by this same restrictive energy source.
BUT WAIT: Saturn is disliked by many. Also note that this same old tough survivor who loves to restrict (and who is hated by so many) will be impressed and will reward the few inexperienced individuals showing great respect for the expectations mandated by Saturn. Hence, Saturn will allow a "passing on" of a valuable lesson (or a reward) to those for tolerance of and the following of the rules expected from Saturn.
My favorite examples of this Saturn "reward" for tolerating the energy of Saturn can be seen with two fictional characters: Charles Dickens' "Ebenezer Scrooge" (from "A Christmas Carol") and Quentin Tarentino's "Pai Mai" (from "Kill Bill part Two").
Click https://youtu.be/D4XPIy2yPvI and go to 7:20 for my example with Saturn-like Scrooge giving out such a reward to those who followed him (despite his Saturn cruelty).
Click https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-iB755cw3s&feature=player_deta... for my example of Pai Mai being a real Saturn-like jerk to a young U.S. woman (Uma Thurman) who is seeking Kung Fu secrets and martial arts knowledge
Uma Thurman's Reward: click https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL7nLSSSWjw&feature=player_deta... for the "reward" that this Saturn-like jerk ("Pai Mai") gives to Uma Thurman for her tolerance as a protege. The reward is important knowledge via "the deadliest technique in martial arts" (and of which turns out to be needed, since this technique is used against an evil martial arts master (David Carradine) who tried to have her killed in the "Kill Bill Part One").
Very interesting, Malcolm... I see the correlations. Saturn does offer "spiritual intelligence" but at the cost of one's own ego...He is a stern old man, lol...I see it too.
This planet's energies are prominent right now so I thought it a good time to talk about it :-)
Kelly: you are correct that it's important to talk about Saturn now. Saturn is currently retrograding past the star of Dschubba, a.k.a. "The Crown of The Scorpion" (at about 3 degrees Sagittarius). Saturn will then change signs and retrograde into Scorpio. In August, 2015, Saturn will go stationary near the star of Toliman (a.k.a. Alpha Centauri, at 29 degrees Scorpio, on August 2, 2015). Jupiter will be near the star of Al Jabhah (at 28 degrees Leo) at this same time, and Jupiter will also be in in a hard square formation with Saturn at this time as well. This square is a classic "hard choice" or a "sharp trade-off" per definitions in most astrology texts..
Individuals who were born with important placements of the star of Dschubba (i.e. one ex senator who wants to be president, and one ex senator who is president) may be coming down with hard decisions and hard choices to make of some kind in late summer to fall of 2015.
This summer should represent a hard choice of some kind within a large influence or situation of some kind. I suspect financial implications, but don't look for a stock market panic (since there are still too many people calling for it to happen). But oil did a serious drop in price, and Saudi Arabia is about to openly accept usury due to financial losses that exceeded calculations done by the best that Wall Street can offer. Moral of the story: making money via equities and paper instruments will always carry an element of risk that you simply cannot minimize with contrarian equities and paper instruments (i.e. derivatives).
Yes, it is a case of putting your money where your mouth (or heart) is, so to speak. Today is a special day of alignment, foundations are being laid and I think you are right about what is coming up this summer... will be interesting, no doubt.
The drop in oil production has drastically affected my town, it's trickling down to increased crime and violence, it's going to reach a breaking point, but not soon, I think. If you could hazard an educated guess, Malcolm, when do you think Canada is going to "wake up"... there has been some political change recently, so the signs are good for some real growth but there are such yahoos making our decisions right now that we're stymied...
Canada is experiencing aftershocks due to the big drop in the price of crude oil (reportedly overdone by Saudi Arabia, since the financial impact has Saudi Arabia using leverage more and taking part in public usury (borrowing money) for the first time in fifteen years).
Neptune is currently in it's ruling sign of Pisces (till 2025), and Pisces is very definitive of hospitals, services, chemicals, drugs, and petroleum. The square taking place between Saturn (in the sign of Sagittarius, which rules "the law") with Neptune in 2016 strongly suggests a strong restriction placed on "Pisces areas," and Saturn will be conjunct the star of Antares ("Archangel Oriel;" "Watcher of The West").
Thankyou, Malcolm. I really look forward to some changes being made here. Our leadership is a joke, elections are coming...fingers crossed.
this is good Kelley-more people need to do an astrological chart or if they could get someone like Malcolm they'd be surprised at finding what their own influences are-and be more content following them-my own house is extremely influenced by Saturn
That's awesome, Pet Rock, Saturn gets a bad rap. It is a very powerful planet to have, you will have had some trials from it, but many rewards, as Malcolm stated. I met the Saturn energy a couple of weeks ago for the first time as an old man, my mind interpreted him that way... He didn't seem to have patience for frou-frou emotions and carrying on, lol... all business, but in a nice way, I think. I think he is a peg that holds us suspended between our physical and astral self.
do you know the rings are made of glass. from the progenitors build a halo style ring around. A similar ring you can see in that movie jupiter ascending. This was about 5 million years ago due to whistle blowers in the Secret Space program
You are free to believe whatever you like, but I know physics and the halo is natural... however if it makes sense to you then that is okay too.