Spiritual Forum

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  Eye of Change August 9, 2012 at 7:16pm

  Well money sounds better to use, it's easy and everyone can use it:-)

  I really would not just paint a farmers barn for a piece of breed...you know how big barns are?

  Anyway i love helping though:-D
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  Ascension August 9, 2012 at 4:08pm

  In a perfect world , spirituality should be not only free but should also be teaching at school
  at young age , spirituality is no religions but a gift we all have , in other words it's part of us .
  I'm sure if spirituality we're thought at a young age at school the world would go better .
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  Ima Scending August 9, 2012 at 3:27pm

  "Do you belive that anyone who charges for spiritual knowledge is legit?"

  Well, they can still be legit but seriously misguided, and the cosmos will make'em pay back every penny eventually anyway, but in general: No, I do not consider ppl who charge for ANY kind of help, legit.

  I've helped ppl free of charge all my life, and after 36 years all those favors are starting to flow back to me again, and that is VERY good, because 2011 and 2012 Illuminati almost succeeded to destroy me, and had I not had all that help that came rushing forth when I ran into trouble, I would not even be alive today.

  "I understand that others have to make a living but I belive that spiritual knowledge shouls be free."

  I am actually very soon gonna be forced to either start selling sex, or start offering my knowledge about healing and psychological "damage control" to people.

  I've been thinking long and hard on how to charge, and the only fair option I found were the "optional payment"-method.

  I.e The customer pays if he wants to, and he also decides how much the work has been worth. 

  Now, some ppl might take advantage of that but, since the karma around me are 10 times stronger than it would be if they ripped someone off who's not a conscoius programmer of reality, those cases do sort themselves out in the end anyway. 

  and I soon also realized that the universe have a constant rate of about 1% energy-thieves, and if I can not accept that then I really should not have been in the universe in the first place. :)

  I believe in the "optional" option. And I also value a home cooked meal as much as a normal payment so even Miss Pennyless would be able to buy my service.. even though I'd probably help her for free anyway. :)

  "Also I relize that there is free spirituality stuff out there."

  That sentence in itself is a bit weird.

  Spirituality is a belief whereas we put angelic descriptions on all the neat little communication, sensor- and simultanic multidimensional processing capabilities that comes with a 3-dimensional human body, which also becomes available to us the moment we log in on that body (yes, you can log out, you do that while you sleep for instance). 

  So in that sense, yes it is free, ppl love to share their beliefs.. ;)

  You did mean The Knowledge though, and weather it's free or not actually depends on where you choose to look for it. If you go on the internet or basically anywhere in real life it will never be free since knowledge is power and the collective human consciousness ain't tuned well enough to remove all the greed from the right places just yet.

  However, since you ARE a human, there are other ways of course.

  Something you probably were never told, is that the human capaticity for making conscious connections is close to unlimited. These connections can best be likened with an internal form of internet, and you "google" stuff by simply knowing what it is you need to know and put that question forth, and then just pick the answer up from the printer in the unconscious/instinctive mind.

  That's all there is to it. Your unconscious mind already have an outline of all the knowledge in the universe, otherwise you would never know right from wrong from birth for example. But, if you want details you need to connect to the universe or the acashic field. Now, these places aren't really libraries.. They just STORE information, so there's no index.. You need to KNOW what it is you wanna know about and then hold a clear definition about it in your mind so that the answer will be as precise as possible. 

  There's a VERY old advice I've seen...

  And I've seen it being used here in the days as well, and I feel it can never be repeated enough:

  Everything Outside is Illussion, the only answers you could ever trust come from within.

  That is why Illuminati's PRIME DIRECTIVE over eons have been to keep human in a state where we trust external influences rather than internal and hence, have turned the world upside down. Literally.

  Break the dependence of outside influence and you will soon discover that your nature as a human is a bit different than you first thought.
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  Vagelis4VP August 9, 2012 at 2:34pm

  ...if u can afford to give "spiritual teachings" for Free..... Go for it!!!

  if i was able to give any spiritual teachings... i would charge for sure...
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  John - Artist August 9, 2012 at 2:23pm

   

  I Would say the biggest offender of this spirituality for higher or sale would be the organization of religion across the board its down to follow the money trails.  When churches fund both sides of a civil war, or the house of representatives in active office. Then yes the corruption and money run deep in the Vatican some churches aren’t that bad, but there still run as a business.  Tammie and Tim Baker come to mind, the 700 club with there twenty four seven fund raising, similar to what PBS dose twice a year.

  Using spirituality to play on peoples inherent open hearts and well to pull on the purse strings is criminal and evil out of men’s minds directed are our hearts of charity.

   

  As for The holy spirit witch is in you--- shall give answer when you have need and is no lie but the living word of God. Not when you remember a scripture or drop money into a passing basket.
  
  Not from the religious memorizations in scripture of men’s brains and much speaking looking to turn a dime.
  
  All scripture points to this living word that’s in you.  Speaking scripture from the head or book keeps the living holy spirit from speaking new living scripture threw your life and actions.    Written words of the past--(religion) or living word of god from your spirit.  that’s the dividing line in a living God and a written god of religion. This is what they all did before the written word popped up 200 years after Christ passed this on in all that he pointed to. 
  
  The book is left to interpolation as it applyed to the person it was written to then.  Living word of God is in the moment its needed and its for you, not the world or a religion to use for monetary gain.
  
  Its fine as a history book to see what they were pointing at-- the living word that lives’ within you the holy spirit.
  
  It’s a personal connection to your living word of spirit of God--- not a connection to a book of history.
  
  21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
  22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
  23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
  
  1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him- free of charge and give unto other's as you have been given.-.
  
  And all this was pointed to with out a book or scripture it didnt exsist then, these saying came from the holy spirit the living word in our heats.  Time to think about getting off the raft of religion in our heads--- and back to the living word of God that speaks in and threw you personally--- not religiously from the head. and much speaking and boasting of how well we know scripture, wouldnt it be better to get to know our holy spirit instead? Its Living. surtch your heart, not our head filled religion. ---like a parrett we speak-- is what it sounds like to other's  when we speak words of religion instead speaking from your heart of the living spirit thats in you, then just maybe then people may take notice and may quote you like they did in scripture of those that spoke of things in there heart from our father in heaven thats also in your heart.   know Him living in you, not scripture in our heads. its all about were your looking.
  
  
  15And they brought unto him also infants, that he would touch them: but when his disciples saw it, they rebuked them.
  
  16But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.
  
  17Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein.
  
  this is why i say "i am not a christian"--- but I am a child.---  big difference surch your hearts not religious dogma's and beliefs.    spirituality is free you carry it around in you from birth,  look in and not at the money changers out side of you.

   

  John xoxo 
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  Light Warrior August 9, 2012 at 1:29pm

  Spiritual gifts are a rarity and are not "taught' or "bought". They can't be loaned, borrowed, rented or given away to others. Therefore, when one comes to realize this and is in search of personal assistance through the "use" of these gifts, a fair and even energy exchange (money in this case) should be rendered for services provided by the spiritual teacher. Gifts can be "described" to and used for others but can not be given "to" others, as the recipient must be "endowed" with them from Source.
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  STAR* August 9, 2012 at 12:46pm

  yes ok.

  However the ONES WHO ARE SINCERE do spread the info FOR FREE; but sometimes they ask for donations

  and i dont think thats a bad thing to ask... cos they have bills to pay y'know;

  & the creator understands that.... and still gave them the gift... to work with it how they want

  the one's who are bogus; overcharge & are corrupt & dont follow what they preach; they are the ones to be wary of !! so use discernment folks

  <3 !
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  Ascension August 9, 2012 at 9:36am

  Since we live in a world who is run by money i think is okay to just like * STAR * said

  ask for a donation or a little something to atleast bring something on the table to eat but

  this is only for those who does this for a living and those who really teach the true spiritualty .

  Like we all know this give an opportunity for scammers to make easy money over this so you need

  discernment . The monks would do it for free as they eat and sleep for free too .
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  STAR* August 9, 2012 at 8:12am

  yes people who charge money for spiritual knowledge *CAN* be legit,

  but like evrything use YOUR OWN sense of discernment.

  It isnt *bad* to charge money; hey that guy/girl has bills to pay... and they're taking time out of THEIR DAY to help educate someone... so its a SERVICE, and its also a horrible fact we live in  a world where food, and bills have to be paid!!

  it isnt a crime someone asks payments; becos money is energy (anyway)... but here's some tell tale signs

  1. shouldnt NEVER ask for extreme amounts of money just donations

  2. never force for payment

  3. use discernment at all times, does the persons info resonate? does it ring true in your heart?if you are in doubt; do not pay ANYTHING

  those are just real simple tips; to avoid being conned by a few charlatans! <3
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  Solarkid August 9, 2012 at 4:16am

  Depends, spirituality covers a wide area of fields, most of the so called "mediums" and psyschics are just scammers, that just play with people emotions and lives.

  But for the real people out there is something very well deserverd (and sometimes needed), and there is starting to appear lot of gentle people that are willing to share their knowledge without monetary retribution, making that knowledge avaible to more students :)