Spiritual Forum

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  Roaring Lovely April 12, 2016 at 7:06am

  The bible report some interesting drama said to have been done by Jesus after resurrection.
  
  "...then their eyes were opened and they recognized him, and he disapear from their sight..." Luke 24:31
  
  "On the evening of that first day of the week, when the disciples were together, with doors locked for fear of Jews, Jesus came and stood among them..." John 20:19
  
  Lets close exermin the coherence in these two claims. As I have hinted up there, there is an exact corelation between the ability to surreptitiously disapear and the ability to pass through a wall. This is because visibility involvs particles interacting with light and also hardness of matter is not inherent but caused by its particles interacting with light (an electromagnetic phenomena). Therefor if a body aquires the ability to surreptitiously disappear, it automatically aquires the ability to pass through walls. The ancient men likely did not know this. Therefor they could not put it in an invented testimony with the intention of making the testimony more convincing.
  
  Another interesting thing is that after performing such accrobatics, you would espect Jesus to go on to say that he has now transcended the 'material body' and is now a ghost or something like that but he did the exact opposit! Not only does he insist that it is the body, he insists that it is the very same body he had before he died!
  
  "...touch me and see, a ghost does not have flesh and bones as you see I have." Luke 24:39
  
  So contrary to how it is taught in modern times, Jesus did not teach that afterlife is achieved because our consciousness is due to a stuff more arcane than matter. Rather, he taught that matter is more dramatic than we see it. It can listen and obey should the commander be the right one!
  
  Even though 21st centuary phyc has tended to vindicate an entirely different way of understanding matter, when they hear 'matter' pple are still trapped in 17th centuary phyc that neaded the 'imaterial' to act as a vehicle of soul to circumvent death!
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  1 darkstar April 12, 2016 at 1:16am

  Well, I had a UFO being go right THROUGH my window when I was about 7 years old. I thought that he was the Man in the Moon and I thought he came down on a moonbeam because he came down on a beam of light.  Actually, now I think that he was one of the grays.  We went to my school at night (I remember it was fall and we were walking through the leaves) and NOTHING WAS MOVING.  No cars were moving, etc.  I had some funny feeling that we weren't supposed to be seen.  My mother was in suspended animation. 
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    AlternateEarth > 1 darkstar April 13, 2016 at 1:54am

    Wow darkstar
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      1 darkstar > AlternateEarth April 13, 2016 at 2:17am

      Yeah, I've got lot's of "wows"!
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    happy person > 1 darkstar April 12, 2016 at 11:33pm

    really?   that is some experience...
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      1 darkstar > happy person April 13, 2016 at 12:49am

      Yes, one of my weirder ones (and I've got a lot MORE!)
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        happy person > 1 darkstar April 13, 2016 at 10:37am

        what else did you experience?
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  Roaring Lovely April 11, 2016 at 5:18am

  And BTW one should have his eyes sharps. A physicist will never use the jargon of the 'spiritual' guys even when they are more or less speaking the same thing. It is for some important reasons. So at no point will a physicist us 'spirit' or 'immaterial'. He will rather say 'quantum field', 'exotic matter', 'nonbaryonic matter' etc.
  
  So baryonic matter=matter
  Non-barryonic matter=spirit
  
  Then fools go about saying that physics don't acknowledge the 'immaterial' or that science cannot explain 'paranomal' and other stupid, traditional, steriotypical claims. Humans tend to be too much captivated by jargons than by concepts and ideas.

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  Roaring Lovely April 11, 2016 at 4:56am

  The best physics I can conceive of that can allow objects to pass through other objects involves alteration of subatomic particles. This subject, of interpenetration, gotta be of crucial importance to anyone who is interested with ghosts, UFOs etc. Infact, the best way a UFO can fly to Andromeda in split seconds is if it can somehow pass through matter as it were it does not exist!
  
  At a first glance, this seems impossible but thanks to modern phyc light on what matter is, exactly. However, we realy find it hard to beleive these fact, even a physicist. We go about our day to day thinking assuming that an object keep others off because it is inherently 'hard'. But QM has shown that hardness is not an inherent property of objects. 'Hardness' is a property that emerges from electromagnetic repulsion between the atoms of the two objects that are trying to penetrate each other.
  
  Here is exactly where the trick lies cause a scenario where a thing can be neutral to a 'non-contact' force such as magnetism is conceivable. Infact we already can see a macroscopic instance such as a glass being manifestly neutral to magnetism.
  
  So physicists now understand interpenetration. Should particles simply stop interacting with electromagnetic forces, it will eas past objects. Infact such particles are the candidates of the so called 'dark matter'. That is why they are termed Weakly Interacting Massive Particles (WIMPs)
  
  So for our guy to pass through a wall, his entire particles must somehow decay into WIMPs at one side of the wall and decay back to baryonic matter at the other side!
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  AlternateEarth April 11, 2016 at 12:07am

  staged-they open the doors and go in and take stuff-even if you lock the door-I always see the returned taking stuff at stores etc. well not all the time-some pay-magically there are no, except me, 3d ers around-funny as hell-one guy took a gatorade and walked right out the door