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  Roaring Lovely August 13, 2015 at 12:39pm

  Wow! Thats wonderfull, Lisa.:)
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  Roaring Lovely August 13, 2015 at 11:29am

  Yes, you more or less say the same thing as Paul. But you may not have understood what I meant by 'logical love'. I don't mean it doesn't transcend logic.
  
  Every THING trancends logics
  But every WORD adheres to the rules of logics.
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    Lisa Barnthouse-Fraser > Roaring Lovely August 13, 2015 at 12:26pm

    Well my favorite saying is quit talking show it....   When I tell someone I'm in love with I love them I'm willing to show it... I'd lay my life down for that person 
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  Roaring Lovely August 13, 2015 at 9:59am

  Love is patient, love is kind, it does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud, it is not rude, it is not self seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no records of wrongs, it does not delight in evil, but rejoices with the truth. It always trust, it always hopes, it always percevers. Love never falls. But where there are prophesis, the will cease, where there are tongues, they will be stilled, where there is knowledge, it will pass away. For we know only in parts and we prophesy in parts but when perfection comes, the imperfection disapears. When I was a child, I reasoned like a child, I thought like a child, I talked like a child. When I became a man, I put childish away. Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror. Then we will see face to face. Now I know in part then I shall know fully even as I am fully known. And now these 3 remains: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
  
  Paul's definition of the word 'love' is unambiguos and straight foward.
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    Lisa Barnthouse-Fraser > Roaring Lovely August 13, 2015 at 11:13am

    Good now reread what I first wrote my sweet friend.... 
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  Roaring Lovely August 13, 2015 at 9:15am

  The word 'love' is beyond definition. It is the only word that made its way to men's mouth without going through their brains! What a magical word. A word invented by humans but whose meaning is unknown by the very humans.
  
  It trancends all logic
  It surpasses all understanding
  
  There is no reason for love. Peace, joy etc are not reasons for love. We can only say what love is not but not what it is. Yet love is all there is!! Love is everything and it is nothing. War is love. Loves makes you keep fighting. Love is peace, love gives life. When you feel love, you die! Love kills and resurrects. Love is peace and it is war. If you find those hard to wind your head around, it is cause love is beyond logic. It is beyond human comprehension.

  

  umani consapevoli | uomini e donne ed eterne essenze
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    Lisa Barnthouse-Fraser > Roaring Lovely August 13, 2015 at 9:33am

    Listen to spirit it defines love....
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  Roaring Lovely August 13, 2015 at 8:52am

  God is love but he can burn you in hell
  Ask, but how?
  God's love tranchence all logics. It is beyond human understanding! He loves you even while tormenting you in hell!
  
  True love is logical. If I love you, I cannot lie to you, I cannot steal from you, I cannot kill you.
  
  Why is it not correct to say 'I love you' while murdering someone? Simple, that statement is not logical. Love adheres to rule of logic.
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    Lisa Barnthouse-Fraser > Roaring Lovely August 13, 2015 at 9:15am

    Do you think as a creator you could burn and torture what you made in hell for eternity.... Now I would I would teach them a lesson I suppose that's why I believe in karma and reincarnation. People that kill in the name of love that's not love but obsession...
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  Lisa Barnthouse-Fraser August 13, 2015 at 7:27am

  Hmmm.... Dear friend are you OK..... Love transcends all logic..... The heart wants what the heart wants..... Love shouldn't hurt but its not easy either.... It gives you hope, joy, life and laughter..... It makes you want to keep fighting when when the battle seems lost.... It's unconditional.... When you say I love you then mean it.... Not only love that person for the best in them but can you love them through the worse in them.... It's knowing that even a million miles apart that you're both under that same night sky looking upon a star wishing to be in one another's arms.... There's no logic to it, no rhyme no reason it just is.... It's when you hear them say I love you on the phone and its like the first time you ever heard it even though it's been said so many times before....  It's when just the sound of their voice can set your soul on fire.  It's for no reason at all it wakes you in the middle of the night with the whispers of their name upon your ear.... It's not meant to be simple but almost incoherent, just recognizable... It makes you feel all emotion at once but still it calms the raging sea within.... You see dear one it can't be defined or refined to fit anyone it can only just be what it is perfection in all that it is.... Only perfection can see past your flaws to see the beauty that lays within only perfection has patience when you are intolerable, only perfection can see past the falseness of the flesh and see the truth of spirit... It allows for mistakes it allows for hurt and pain it also allows forgiveness and reconciliation and healing.... This is love at its purest form it truly is a blessing to feel it in all its perfection... When you truly love someone, you see not with your eyes but creators perfection....