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  Drekx Omega June 11, 2022 at 7:21pm

  

  Quetzal has been an excellent contact, from time to time...He has filled in for the Sirians, when they were on other missions, off world...This is what he actually looks like....On both the physical and astral planes....He is a 391-year old (sol) Plejare....
  
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      Drekx Omega December 3, 2021 at 7:32pm

      

      Yes, always write the dreams down, if you are starting out on this astral method..Feelings are more important than some may understand....The heart actually has neurons, just like a brain....They are both thinking organs, with access to higher mind and concrete logic, or "gut" intuitions.
      When you can access the higher mind, which is like a vast magnet, you can really start getting downloads of worth....As you develop mind, through use, you build higher access in mental substances, within your antahkarana bridge...This links your concrete mind with your higher mind. Then you have to step-down the energies, to convert to day, to day, logical processing...It takes practice, like all things...
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    Drekx Omega December 3, 2021 at 6:54pm

    Hello my friend, good to see your valid contributions...😄 And yes, channeling is different to impressioning and again different to telepathic contact....It's the same with astral projection, being different to aetheric projection....It was the latter method I used recently, which was actually invoked by Sandara, but I must say, it's the closest to an NDE, without being dead and without the astral tunnel....
    Many people we call "genius" are able to use impressioning. Not everyone can telepath clearly and concisely, but it is there, in some form or other...Natural as phoning a relative to speak and discovering they were just about to phone you...It does happen a lot....And it does depend on your state at the time...That is why balance through meditation and diet is so important... 😄 Great stuff...!!
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        Drekx Omega December 3, 2021 at 7:49pm

        

        Exactly right...Telepathy can come through in the awake state...We normally block it, or open the block and remain receptive...I first communicated with Vashtar this way, when I was 9-years old...He taught me how to avoid picking up too much "mental traffic," from people around me, as it was causing some anxiety...
        
        Most Masters, off-world, or on, prefer to contact us on the mental plane, using telepathy....They are also pleased to use contact methods on the astral, as well...So yes, an impressioning is astral, so the emotional body picks up the vibe and it eventually filters into consciousness...Often this is in the dream state, while astral travelling..
        As you get better, you may physically meet them, also...Normally, they evaluate energy spent in doing so. There has to be a valid reason, normally...Like a particular device to be deployed, or a particular mission of importance...
        Same with their vimana craft. They spend more effort on the higher aethers, than the lower and will manifest in the dense, when absolutely necessary to do so...
        
        The dense aethers are a reflection of the higher aethers and most healing is conducted on the higher, it then filters down, or percolates to manifestation...
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          Drekx Omega December 3, 2021 at 8:04pm

          Oh absolutely true...This notion of "super-natural" is something of a misnomer...It comes within the realms of nature. Every phenomena can be explained logically, provided one understands that reality extends beyond the five senses....
          This should be obvious to modern science, too, as we all take it for granted that radio waves are being sent all around us, yet not seen with naked eyes. But picked up on a radio....So many examples...
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            Roaring Lovely > Drekx Omega December 4, 2021 at 5:46am

            

            Radio waves is where I started my scientific interest in psi. I always have two magnets in my room. I push one against the other and recall trying to force a floating object into water. Then I realize that my 5 sense are not adequate to explain reality. Then I wonder if it is actually the 'spirit' that intervene betwen the two magnets! Believe it or not, this is the reason why I got spiritual!
            
            Now come to radio waves. We not from TV that images are always there with us (in some form) be we donnot see them, of course.
            
            But this analogy also shows that the 'this cannot be explained by science' common amongst the psi advocates is not good! It is self destructive and needlessly makes their believes contradictory. I rejected this a long time ago, and sought scientific explanations. Where I didnt find satisfactory ones, I created mine. We should rather specify that 'it is not explainable by known or accepted science' (at least accepted in the mainstream.)
            
            Once spirit interacts with matter, it is no more 'inexplicable' than radio waves is.Or I should say that scientists donnot more understand radio waves than they do 'spirit'. They just accept that they are there, and reject 'spirit'. Likewise if 'moses' was to come here, wave his stuff and voila, the sea parts, he would have demonstrated a new science and scientists will have to accept it. They will then talk of a 'field' somehow somewhat capable of interacting with the mind. The manner in which it interacts with the mind may keep becoming 'unsolved questions in physics' etc. They key point is that though a thing like telepathy etc may not be seen, its effect must, nevertheless, be seen, if one close exermines the body while it is receiving the telepathic message. A scientist will notice that there is some effect that he cannot account for using the things he knows. That is how we will conclude that 'a miracle has happened' if moses performed the drama.
            
            Since the effect of (real) telepathy must be observable objectively, there is no difference between telepathy and 'a new field' in physics!!! A trick that eluded many 'new agers'! We must be able to, at least, form 'effective, physics theories' of telepathy. All physics theories are effective! It is quite possible that light is more than it appears to a physicist. This, nevertheless does not bar a physicist from modelling light upto the point where the statement of its interaction with the observable matter is seen as consistent with known fact. The light, in its full details, may be far more than that!
            
            So new age reasoning of simply axing out science and logic is seen to be an incoherent view of reality! We must abandon it! The 'new ager' was not interested with facts because he wanted a lower threshold so he may claim that what he experiences subjectively is adequate. So he created unrealistic and contradictory chasm between the 'objective' and the 'subjective'.
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              Roaring Lovely > Roaring Lovely December 4, 2021 at 7:08am

              

              AN INCOHERENT VIEW:
              
              A ghost was in the house, it affected things in your house, but no one can infere with his mind, using logics, that something inexplicable by known science, was in the room. So only a new age 'guru' who 'goes within' can discern the presence if the ghost!'
              
              Of course this is rubbish!! If the ghost had effect in the room, we can definitely see changes in the room that we cannot explain how the happened! We can see a bent spoon, a cracked glass, etc, even if we are 100 sure that the room was locked and no one was in the room!
              
              That is just to magnify some incoherence in the general 'only a guru can see' nonsense! So spirituality to be relevant, it must have an impact in the world. This impact must be observable, not just by the 'gurus'. If meditation in Taiwan can bring peace, we can obviously see the 'inexplicable' peace that accompanied the meditation!! We can see that something is moving the head of the 'guru' while in meditation, or otherwise the meditation cannot possibly have any impact in the world!
              
              The following then is where it gets tricky abit:
              
              As long as a phenomenon can affect the observable world, we can always form a usefull theoretical model of the phenomenon, whether or not, the phenomenon ACTUALLY works that way! Nobody, for instance, can know that space time is ACTUALLY curved!! I call it 'a mock up theory'. We can 'mock up' a quantum spin using ordinary spin. We can 'mock up' gravity by using a converging fluid etc. We can also 'mock up' even Moses's miracle by saying that 'moses was surmoning the wind'. Interestingly, the bible itself often offer such explanations! The ancient bible writers did not think like new age Christians, where a 'miracle' is an antithesis to science!
              
              The 'new ager' claims they took photographs of ETs, the ETs have impacts on our politics, yes, the ETs even intervenes to stop nukes etc. But latter, especially when conered, insists 'an ET presence can only be discerned by going within', meaning it is all subjective!! Realy? Can't a physicist notice an effect in a photographic plate? Can't he see that something strange happened in the nuke site to stop nukes? Can only gurus discern ETs, if the 'ETs' have a relevant impact in our world?
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                Drekx Omega > Roaring Lovely December 4, 2021 at 10:46am

                

                Sometimes, offworlders prefer to deal with Earth humans of a more spiritual development and character...Many feel more comfortable interacting with those Earth humans who are not struggling to comprehend life, from a lower light quotient, perspective...Many Earth scientists and politicians, think they KNOW IT ALL....So ETs tend to avoid them and instead, deal with the less famous, but more developed, souls incarnated...
                
                Of course, there are many Earth scientists who come under the evolutionary ashrams of Masters such as Hilarion and may not even know it. They are being aided in hidden ways, but until they grow to a suitable consciousness, it may not be a direct way..Some get impressioning, some get an idea, or solution, planted in their minds and assume that it was their own exclusive idea, so patent it and make a fortune...This is not what it is all about. A eureka moment, is not always the sole possession of a person who prides himself in genius...It may be a collective ashramic moment and the nose-in-air scientist, may not even know it....Many need to evolve, to get higher and closer teachings...Not unlike the one-on-one tutoring of a child, at home, as opposed to a classroom of greater numbers of children and consequently, a teacher with a more diluted focus.
                
                Even the 4th density dark orientated offworlders, who have made deals with various governments, find it difficult to trust their Earth official counterparts. Most Earth politicians are simply untrustworthy and that perspective is even noted by ETs such as the Bellatrixians, of the former Anchara Alliance, who dealt with the US in the 1950s and 60s...
                
                And sometimes the intelligence services get involved when ET photos are taken, by such persons as Billy Meier...They then spend much time and effort, trashing reputations, for their control agenda...
                
                There are some improvements in Earth officialdom, over the decades. Certain contrary parts of the establishment, that oppose the cabal. But, nevertheless, many ETs and Ascended Masters on Earth, tend to much prefer garnering ashramic contacts and those based upon their star origins (star seeds,) and avoid the "officials" with their noses in the air and their; "I AM SCIENCE," type mindsets...
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              Roaring Lovely > Roaring Lovely December 4, 2021 at 6:27am

              

              'New agers' also mis-represent science to conveniently exempt themselves the need to be factual and truthful! They say things like 'we use the heart and scientists use the mind'. This a false teaching! What they want to impress on pple is that 'a scientist reject his claim just because of something in the scientist's own skull' rather than because of a genuine lack of evidence and/or coherence on the part of new ager's claims! It demot science into something 'mental' and 'subjective', hence illegitimate!!
              
              Well, while some scientists have opted to rely on their minds (as if they now know everything (everything is now in their minds)'. This is not a feature of science. Infact, it is antithetical to science. It is an attitude that returds scientific knowledge. True scientist is alway open minded and allows only the 'lab' to speak, not 'the mind'.
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                Drekx Omega > Roaring Lovely December 4, 2021 at 10:30am

                

                No, it's not that we "mis-represent science," to exempt ourselves. It is because many of our contact sources, for information, wisdom, knowledge and high understanding, our freely providing us with data, with kind affections and feel a benign need to assist our understanding, FROM OUTSIDE OF THE BOX or MATRIX. In other words, the sources many of us use are beings, fellow beings, who have taken our journey, already and are offering a hand up the ladder, as it were...For example, the Ascended Masters and certain offworlders...
                I prefer to deal directly with these highly evolved and experienced sources, when obtaining my understanding of reality. They have a "higher" vantage point, than Earth scientists, many of whom are too proud of their status, in their fields of discipline and in practice, not open-minded, but rather, many appear closed to certain truths outside of their norms.....
                Not all scientists are closed. Many want to be open to these possibilities, but then get blacklisted by their peers.
                SO, I prefer to avoid Earth scientists, when obtaining my information and going straight to those highly experienced
                esoteric scientists, who inhabit the higher realms of reality...And freely visit us, using multiple methods, and teach us, so we can float above a "maze" and see, rather than being in a maze, with all those plodders, called scientists, with their absurd closed minds and assumptions, or dubious finances, holding them back from truth...