I recently have been reading a lot about the history and background of Nesara and I just finished reading a very comprehensive overview of Nesara, which I have given the link below. My question is the article said that "Ashtar had an earth incarnated son named RAMA AJUNA." I have never heard anything about Ashtar having an earth incarnated son. Can anyone tell me more about this????? It could be that I am not well versed about Ashtar but just wondered why if he had an earth son, why have I never heard it mentioned before. And if it is not true, should I not believe any of the other information in the link? I am really trying to understand Nesara, just want to make sure I am on the right track.
http://soundofheart.org/galacticfreepress/content/nesara-real
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It is quite interesting how circuitous our paths can be. I just found this thread doing some research. I tend to be a little verbose, so be forewarned. You might even find that I make sense beyond common.
And so... I agree with Cmdr. Lady Athena completely but for different reasons. I did some research on NESARA back in the late 90s when I first heard about it. At the time, there was information on the Net that was compelling proof that a similar ACT, even called NESARA, had been used in the 30s to call in all the gold just after the crash. I had been drilling down into the pages of references for hours when I found it. I bookmarked it at the time and sent the information to several internet 'friends' so that at least there were others who had the information.
It wasn't too long after that the Dove of Oneness came on the seen and began promoting NESARA heavily. It never felt right to me, not only because of the information I had uncovered (which got lost when my hard drive crashed several months later); because understanding how false flags are used as a strategy to keep people from taking action. Why would you if you thought someone, or an organization, was going to make everything better, especially with the debt relief. On a common sense level that just seemed ridiculous as well. I know we want to believe that there is a magic pill, wand or White Hats that would ultimately save the day. After over two decades of nothing happening I think the results speak for themselves.
The Galactic Federation, from my experience, would never interfere with human affairs, either. They just don't. They do communicate in so many ways that we [humanity] need to clean up our own mess. Unless and until we show demonstrable results there can be no interaction. We wouldn't have grown a bit. First Contact is to clarify that process and share the basics of how to accomplish it. I've been part of that process and have given up my physical body on several occasions to do so, not to channel or anything like that, to actually let go and reintegrate - not as a walk-in either but as part of the process of understanding how cosmic consciousness condenses into these forms we call bodies. We are here now to learn how to get along and create harmony among people and planet. We have the ability, capability, skill sets and technology to do so, we just haven't taken the appropriate steps to regain control of our planetary administration, national governments and local authorities.
Starting as an orphan and questing for identity, truth and understanding I've caught a lot of grief from many so-called members of the Ashtar Command and others because I stand firmly in my experience, not from channeled information or anything outside of myself, although there has been plenty of reflections from others to validate as much as I care to embrace and allow to be transparent. I've known of my 'family' since childhood and, although I knew it internally and had never shared it with anyone, I was confronted with my parentage by an outside source that I could not deny. I still attempted to for years afterward.
There are others who, contrary to some information I've read, recognize who I am without even saying a word. Unbeknownst to me that it was going to happen, I was even introduced at an international event over a decade ago. I stood for Truth then and still do, so it is not surprising that I was led to this information today. Everyone needs to be willing to wage war in righteousness, test the truth until it stand serene and free of any distractions and disinformation. I've stood in that place as well, being willing to put my experience to the test. So far, it has stood the tests. I know there will be more and after nearly a half-century of experiences and testing, apparently there is worth to this extraordinary life of continual discovery.
Some may choose to remain anonymous in order to maintain their livelihoods and possibly their safety. Humans can be pretty obnoxious, cruel and harmful to others if they don't agree or understand things beyond their experience or intelligence. Some, out of a desire to be helpful and promote hope, channel information that they feel is legitimate. I understand that any time one speaks of duality and that the Ashtar Command or Galactic Federation is working directly with a government to eliminate a 'dark cabal' or anything similar, I have found nothing to substantiate those claims in years of examination, let alone any direct contact I have had. I'm not foolish enough to claim that I know everything and yet there has been an increase in those who experience and understand the same. Many still remain silent because arguing is futile. Ultimately truth has to be tested individually. We are encouraged to do so and our efforts are worth the results.
Namaste,
Zen
Thank you Zendor for this response, it is so in line with my view of things, and I am very happy to have read your thought filled and elequent reply. I agree with how ugly and snarly humans can get when they disagree on even the smallest of points so not trying to start unpleasantness but I guess it is no secret here that Nesara holds no credibility to me, and there is so much contradictive stuff out there that it just doesn't hold water for me at all. To me it is a carrot dangled in front of a hungry horse, lol. A lot of channelers say that ascention is "right around the corner, or any moment now, that the earth will go through massive changes and that humans will have to go into GLF ascention chambers to survive then be taken away to other locations such as off planet or underground to Agartha. So why in the name of heavenly day would Nesara funds be needed???? Any time you read about a supposed benevolent species here to help humanity offering vasts sums of wealth being given out by St Germaine, it just makes me question heavily..sorry. All this GLF being related to Nesara information does not make sense at all to me. I agree that if there is a GLF that they certainly would not interfere in humans business and certainly not be handing out human currency to the masses. Yet every day I reading stuff supposedly by the GLF where they are talking politics and discussing Obama like a saint or something....that just does not help their credibility at all with me...The whole movement involving Ashtar and GLF does not make sense to me either, just trying to figure out who will benefit from everyone waiting with baited breath for a GFL to come to rescue them or make them right "as degreed by the office of Heaven?"....it just not seem right to me...I respect that people have every right to believe in the whole thing but it just makes me wonder...so many people claim to be channeling GLF and yet cannot agree on even simple points....so many contradictions....it just does not add up to me and smells sour to me, and I am worried that people are really going to go over the edge if the whole scenario turns out to be an orchestrated fairy tale used for control of humans....I know that members who are staunch believers will ask me why I am on a site called Ashtar Command if I do not believe in the GLF and Ashtar thing. I came to the site to learn more about all the stuff I did not know when I was first hearing about it and had a great many questions and the longer I have been here the less I believe, and now just follow my inner voice, and if it is wrong, oh well that is just how I feel at the moment. Things could change with me if I found out more credible evidence of things, I keep and open mind, but need some solid proof of things, that is all. I don't due well with taking things on blind faith alone. I am definitely deficit in that department.
Marique, i just wan to mention that Ashtar has no sons on Earth, thats incorrect..(be carrefull witht he desinfo agents out there )what he does have are people that belong to the same essence, energy , and Group Consciosness...:-0 he never incarnated either am was none of those who some sources said they were...i guess he was just too busy mannaging and organizing divine plans trhought out the Universe :-)
Check out the link below if you missed a few months ago
Namaste
Jai
http://www.thenewearth.org/AshtarTribute.html
I have never before believed in Nasara happening, but now I'm not so sure about that.
It would be a good thing if it did happen I think.
Yes, Commander Ashtar does have sons living in the physical here on the planet.
At the last I heard he has seven sons down here. I'm sure they all want to remaine seceret though so that they can complete whatever their missions are here on the planet.
This is the first I heard of an actual name being given out so I'm not sure if Rama Arjuna is one of his sons.
Thank you for postng this. It has made think deeply of what life would be like under Nesara law.
Blessings
Hey Marique, I had found an interesting article here that talks about why NESARA hasn't taken off with some of it's plans and why it has been put on the back burner. I think that this Article here had explained things rather well, as it talks about DR Barnard as being the first one to introduce the theory of NESARA, and the reason that his theory of it started to fizzle out. Was because so many of his supporters started to see that he could of been part of the NWO plan to distract people and really apart of the whole Bush clan that had put so many people in debt durning the years they were in office.
It does seem like a good idea on the outside of things, but so many ppl have taken this theory and have made there own versions of NESARA also.
It orginally though was started by DR Barnard and he had made it into a book called Draining the Swamp
You might like this article or find it interesting some
http://nesara.org/articles/the_real_nesara.htm
Bless the Nite,
April
Hey Marique, There use to be a member on here named Sandra that use to talk a lot about someone named Rama. It was reference though to a Comic Book I think. I didn't think anything about this til you had mentioned the questioned if he could of had a son named Rama. Made me think about what Sandra use to talk about a lot. She was from Germany and couldn't speak English very well, but she had a way with making other members think about things.
I'm not sure if Ashtar had a son or not, but there have been other reports that say he does have a son, and that when most would see his son or an image of him. That his son looked really tall as well, and all white
Not sure though if it was true or not
Bless the Nite,
April
It's very likely a red flag.
Ashtar will never be involved in material and especially no financial structures.
Money is not even used on other planets, nor will Earth in the fifth dimension.
These promises of "unlimited funds coming to you to do your light work" only cause many Lightworkers to sit back passively and wait, thereby wasting valuable time.
+Cmdr Lady Athena
Thank you Drekx. So true it is not important in the scheme of things, I just got confused because I had never heard that he had a son. If you say that the information in question is reliable, that answers the question that matters. Just was surprised about the son thingy, it caught my eye and made me wonder.
i heard somehere that he, (Ashtar) had an uncle that visited one day his sister in law and asked to borrow her lawn-mower....
but accidentaly broked the damn thing so he had to replace or fix it...
but he didnt do it... with the excuse that it was not covered by his insurance on accidental brakedowns...
so he told her that she had to wait for nesara for replacement, with the newer model.. "Exocut-3000"!!!
now thats a shame...how can anyone then trust a man like that!!!
(food for thought and great speculations... fire it up.. ;)
Too funny, hahaha...you are a hoot V4VP.
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