hello everyone before i begin please agree to these rules as this is maybe going to be controversial:

 

1. please respect others viewpoints here even if they make you downright angry

 

2. please do not argue. i  admit i am pretty angry right now but i dont intend to start any break ups i only intend to know for myself and if possible prove my point that being gay can be accepted as much as being straight.

 

ok if you agree to these points please continue. sorry for the close security i just dont want to start any arguments off.

 

i have been told on here(i wont name who by) that being a homo is not normal and i must change or try too or i will perish in 2012 and not be "saved" by the UFO.  i have also being told that i being a gay is evil .i have also being told that in the outer space community that speaks of this that being a homo or gay is not normal for people and they don't want gay people because they want to start the revolution in us. i want to ask you do you accept being gay as normal and are there any gays in the outer space communities you know of? if you dont want to answer please dont answer i respect that.

 

sorry if this sounds harsh but i want to say this out loud.

 

EDIT:

 

thank you everyone for your support full views.  they helped me and reminded me that you guys are among the best in the world. for your hearts and your understandings. if you dont believe you come from a culture of the heart. then look inside you. you ARE that culture. that will respect anyone no matter what and has a strong bond between you all.

i have recently learned i should not be afraid of who i am. and i will not be. there have been times where my heart almost gave in to the calls to be normal it has also been a test of resolve that i have not passed yet but which will keep happening in my life throughout society. but i have good friends, good family, and myself and divine source so i will be ok. i will make sure of it :)

 

. in essence i opened the genie bottle. i stuck my nose in too far  in making new friends and i wasnt as respective as i could have been to others views about being normal. i now let them have their views and i let me have mine. this universe is a big school in itself.

i maybe soon to take my leave of this site. it is not relly because i am upset because i am ok and feeling like i can get through this stronger now. it is because i feel no need to be here anymore. i got what i came here for even when i did not know it. a good friend. and now i am here for another good friend. it is her i stop here for in case she needs any support here. if she does not need any more support here i will take my leave from this site.

 

may i offer some advice in return as a thanks. please note this is advice meant as thanks and i am not saying anything offensive toward you?

 

please keep at this. keep at the understanding you must understand this is a very diverse universe that has sprung forth from the original spark of creation. a universe very beautiful in its own right and many other ways. many diverse species. diverse ideas. even if one cultrue seems evil to you understand that it may not be considered evil to that culture. it may be considered tradition. or even a show of respect or even love. i am not to say the evil things that are going on in our world are a show of respect. nor can i promise to account that i know everything in what i am saying. what i am asking is that you always be understanding never give up the light in yourselves. dont be someone else's vision. be your own. be the spark that you are. gay straight, reptillian, grey, nordic, elf, fairy, nymph, warewolf and so on. it does not matter. try to be true to yourselves. there are so many in this world who are not themselves. they are another's vision of what they want them to be. but i believe that us being ourselves. it sets an example for the rest to follow. it awakes others from their sleep in this society.it gives them a hard wake up shake sometimes. its just what this society needs. to wake up. we are part of the human race. the true race.

 

so be awake,  try be understanding and accepting, and lots of love and take care of yourselves *big hugs* thank you again.

 

P.S you may remember me as iceblade-X yes i am the same person. i deleted my original account when i found one of my true friends here as there was no need to keep being on here after that. and i opened a new account recently in this name to be with a friend on here, the same one i talked about in the previous paragraphs and to support her if needed. i am sorry for not telling everyone who i was. i understand if i am to be punished on this site. but thank you again everybody. you wonderful human and other beings :)

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  • The real truth can be found in the ancient vedas-- books of knowledge-- from India.

    There is one purusha and that is called God.

    That is the male principle -- the supreme controller of all energies.

    We represent the living entities-- called prakriti--- or the feminine controlled jivas --- living beings.

    All the living beings are feminine( controlled) in the eyes of the supreme being -- the source of everything.

    Thus in a sense everyone who is trying to enjoy the prakriti -- jiva -- or fellow living beings-- is "Gay".

    This is a type of conditioning that has incarcerated and conditioned us since time immemorial.

    Trying to be the enjoyer is gay. We are the enjoyed. God is the one who enjoys us and we are meant to give pleasure to God.We are part of the Hladini or pleasure potency. When we want to enjoy-- we imitate the supreme energetic being.\

    Doesn't matter if your attracted to a male or a female -- the principle of trying to be the enjoyer is the male priciple..

    and in relation to the Supreme Being we are all feminine. The principle of conjugal love is originally existing in the Supreme

    Loving Couple and is found in the temporary material realm in a reflected  form.

     


  • I am most impressed with and agree with everything I read here this morning!  Gay, Straight, Bi, Bent or twisted, it's about the heart and real love.  It's not about who a person wants to sleep with or even just hang out with.  It's been my experience that the most vocal and hateful toward any group are those that have deep feelings they are ashamed of and since they can't berate themselves, they find those a little more public about who they are.  Reminds me of the song Willy Nelson redid (done YEARS earlier and you can find it on YouTube) "Cowboys Are Secretly Frequently Fond Of Each Other".  When I stopped being the "hard Core, Right Wing, Holy Rollin' first Assy of god, arrogant, married, Republican" I learned a LOT.  Now I guess I'm classified as a divorced eclectic Pagan with no political affiliation because of my belief's.  I still vote for the lesser of 2 (or more) evils and love all I can, accepting all for who they are, and try to broadcast Love, Light, Peace and Healing energy where ever I am.  It can be fun or somewhat annoying though, as I run Karaoke in bars, from the most redneck hardcore to the flightiest Gay bars.  Love `em ALL though!
  • I think boredom is normal in outer space and that it doesn´t matter in many advanced civilization whether you´re gay or not......
  • As a multidimensional being your also part sexual being.I respect you for being you and speaking out.Being Gay in outer space communities.Is as normal as being straight.In outer space communities and don't listen to anyone.Who tells you have to change.In order to be accepted.I accept you with unconditional love and so does your,"Cosmic Family of One!"(outer space communities)There are many definitions of normal.As they say,"What is normal anyway?"The person who told you to change.Should change himself or herself.Not the other way around.That is all I have to say.

  • Hey, as a homosexual myself, I would like to share this with you:

    Dear Kryon: Regarding homosexuality or transsexuals. WHY are they the way they are and WHY are they not accepted in mainstream society?

     

    ANSWER[From the Kryon Office]

    There is often a tremendous amount of information on subjects that are not necessarily part of the on-line magazine Q&A database. Kryon has been channelling for fourteen years, with 9 books covering many, many topics. Homosexuality was one of them from the very beginning. Please see our "Books index page" for subjects contained in the Kryon books: [http://www.kryon.com/direct.html]

     

    An excerpt from Kryon Book 6, page 306

     

    Question from the book: Dear Kryon, I am gay, and an enlightened man. I live in an American society that barely tolerates me, and actually has some laws against my way of life. The church I used to belong to cast me out as being evil and anti-God. I don't feel that I am violating some Human ethic. My love is as true as any heterosexual, and I am a light worker. Tell me what I should know.

     

    Answer from the book: Dear one, less than two generations from now, there will be those who find this book and laugh at the quaintness of this very question. Before I answer, let me ask you and those reading this to examine a phenomenon about Human society and "God."

     

    Thirty years ago, interracial marriage was considered to be wrong by the laws of God. Now your society finds it common. The spiritual objections around it were either dropped or "rewritten" by those divinely inspired and authorized to do so. Therefore, your actual interpretations of the instructions from God changed with your society's tolerance level--an interesting thing, indeed, how the interpretations of God seem to change regularly to match a changing culture!

     

    The truth, of course, is that you find yourself in a situation that is known to create a test for you. Right now, in this time, you have agreed to come into your culture with an attribute that may alienate you from friends and religious followers. You have faced fear of rejection and have had to "swim upstream," so to speak, just as an everyday life occurrence. Your contract, therefore, has been set up well, and you are in the middle of it. Additionally, like so many like you, you have a divine interest in yourselves! You feel part of the spiritual family. What a dichotomy indeed, to be judged as evil by those who are the high spiritual leaders--interpreting God for today's culture.

     

    Now I say this: What is your intent? Is it to walk with love for all those around you and become an enlightened Human Being in this New Age? Is it to forgive those who see you as a spiritual blight on society? Can you have the kind of tolerance for them that they seem not to have for you? Can you overlook the fact that they freely quote their scriptures in order to condemn you, yet they don't seem to have the love tolerance that is the cornerstone of their own message?

     

    If the answer is yes, then there is nothing else you must do. Your INTENT is everything, and your life will be honored with peace over those who would cause unrest, and tolerance for the intolerable. Your sexual attributes are simply chemistry and setups within your DNA. They are given by agreement as gifts for you to experience in this life. Look on them in this fashion, and be comfortable with that fact that you are a perfect spiritual creation under God--loved beyond measure--just like all humans. But then you know that, don't you?

     

     http://www.kryon.com/ Try this link, it should help you with alot of things besides just homosexuality! Love and Light to you my friend!
  • I'm bi, so I'm with you on this question. I personally believe that any society that is not accepting of people who love other people - regardless of whether the people they love are the same gender as them or the opposite gender of them - is not a society I want to be a part of. However, I think most people who are actually reaching that level of spiritual advancement won't care who you love; they will accept you for you and love you for you regardless. I feel that there is no "sin" or "evil" from what I've come to understand of these people, but that might be because I'm not just looking at the aliens coming down and "saving" us - I'm seeing this as humans going through a spiritual advancement with the help of another species that has already been there and done that, and part of spiritual advancement is accepting where people are in their spiritual journey. Love is emphasized. It's not important whether that love is same sex, different sex, or even if it's not sexual at all. You're not hurting anybody by being gay. I'm not hurting anyone by being bi. We're not hurting people. We're loving. When it comes to spiritual advancement, that's what counts. Loving people.
    • Most people are to stuck on gender and don't think about the fact that the soul is neither male or female but a mixture of masculine and feminine energy. When I think about gay straight or bi it confuses me because when I talk to people or decide whether I like someone or not gender is generally the last thing I notice. I'm don't prefer one sex over the other. I only take into account how I feel when I'm with the other person, and what we have in common and if they can make me laugh. I guess not every one approaches the subject in that way, but thats just how I feel about it. If the person your with makes you happy then be with them. Period. You can't go wrong there... At least I dont think you can, but I could be wrong so.. lol yeah but don't worry it doesn't happen that often haha... I'm kidding.. sort of.. not really =)
    • I absolutely agree.
  • Love do not choose gender, it's the gender that chooses to LOVE~......me
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