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  VioletRay January 20, 2012 at 11:46am

  Hi mckoy, well there is the 'searl effect' and the electrogravitic effect.

  The electrogavitic effect uses an asymmetric capacitor that creates a propulsion and usually high voltage, which can create the plasma around some craft seen.

  Though I'm sure once the reason why a capacitor causes a propulsive is understood, many ways of achieving it are discovered.

  I have tested the electrogravitic effect using simple styrofoam plates and aluminum foil using flyback transformer from television set and it does work, i also replicated the 'lifter' devices which also use the asymmetric condenser.

  A vortex of differing energy is formed toward one end of the device compared to the other end, meaning one end of capacitor has a greater ionic charge relative to opposite side and creates thrust without ejecting matter like a rocket.

  peace love light
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  Drome January 20, 2012 at 10:50am

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  Adonai El Ra January 20, 2012 at 10:44am

  until next time

  Light, Life, and Love to Us All

  I am Ra
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  Adonai El Ra January 20, 2012 at 10:23am

  there are other methods of transportation, but most are based in some form on materials of the earth, their are life form based vehicles as well, but i dont think we have that technology as a natural development of our society yet. Most advanced species will not enter into a technological exchange that creates an artificially inflated technology base with societies less developed, though they may make certain limited exchanges. However i dont see that it is out of our reach either, it may just take some time. Then there are spiritual techniques or higher etheric that may be of benefit but im not about to ascribe the personal or group effort necessary to achieve that, it would be better a master of such things discourse on that topic. As for other material based devices, I will say there are but im not about to go into them, until i see need to keep the scales balanced, i would prefer we take out our trash before we pollute the other spaces.
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    Adonai El Ra January 20, 2012 at 10:43am

    oh and since we are all one even they have access to peruse our thoughts like we do or more precisely the akash, but there is discretionary measures, filters that permit us to determine who can access our developments our memories based on intent.  That our intellect not harm anyone is a filter, that can keep them out, and your heart holds that key.  You know they feed on us.  So deny the source of their food, so to speak.
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        Adonai El Ra January 25, 2012 at 10:05pm

        Unto the White Wolf, good hunting.
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    Adonai El Ra January 20, 2012 at 10:38am

    I agree and i am working toward that too.  But trying to that i have noticed will be more complex than we as individuals can do.  Alone so to speak the best we can hope is to stay out the game, so weve got to get at least a cooperative effort.  Grouping may not be the best thing right now, but then again it may be, i just know the more people we have in a group the bigger the target is on us.  The truth will be necessary but at the same time its got to be anchored and its got to be what the people can accept as at least basic undeniable fact.  People are impossible to persuade, they have to come to the conclusion on their own, so the same tactic the opposition uses may be most effective, plant a few acceptable seeds together that when contemplated lead to the truth or at least the seeking of it that we could never directly bring into awareness.  Tend the garden and let it grow.
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    Adonai El Ra January 20, 2012 at 9:45am

    that i do see, and have witnessed almost frighteningly so, the loneliness of such a state of awareness when one is not ready for it.  But none the less it is true, our minds make it real but only source only creation can make it true and it has not done so except through illusion, none of us have been released from the All, the One yet.  I am not referring to the Matrix, we can construct that and have done so many times no doubt but the absolute existence that fed by source held by source it is one and through it we are all one inescapably so.  At least until source, the nothingness from which all concept, dimension, and distortion sprang provides a new pattern a new form which defies logic and enables separation from absolute, into a new absolute one of our own making as source as prime creator.  But until then it is by the finite impossible.

    We are its driving heart at times and others its intent and mind, so vast no single brain holds it, but through our oneness it shows us, our potential. 
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      Adonai El Ra > Adonai El Ra January 20, 2012 at 9:53am

      And here is something i have found/seen, though our brain in its current state cant hold it all in its vastness in Dynamic condition, still there are.. Seeds of its working as it is,  our One mind the One mind, the concepts by which all can be brought to logical conclusion, at least where logic is concerned.  That i seek, that i collect that i build off of.  These the brain can hold and the higher states attained to.  I believe i understand alot but i dont always seek to put into words, or hold all thoughts at the forefront of my mind.  It seems to diminish the search sometimes to hold them, they are their able to be recalled at any time, imprinted forever in my memories the ones i have in brain,
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    Adonai El Ra January 20, 2012 at 9:18am

    Perhaps i am somewhat confused as to what you are trying to have me understand, the Vril society which decided the Vril from others was somehow better, or the fact that they have neutered themselves from the force the pure Vril that source generated within them before.  Or is it the chains that really cant hold those who are aware.