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  Rune. H August 25, 2011 at 10:40pm

  Dearest clearandlicid:

  I will try to help you by doing a question.

  What did you feel is the right thing to do?. To let your Cat die herself or shorten down this period?

  In this case thinking to much leads to fear.

  Can you and Your Cat have a agreement (one a soul level)?

  What did you feel that your Cat want now?.

   

  Yes, this is difficult, i know that. 3 years ago i went to wet with my dearest dog. After i have done that i become sad and uplifted at same time. Double feelings. The sadness was the lost of a good friend. The upliftment was very strange. Like all my guides tried to comfort me. And they do a very good job. Later i find that it was a agreement, and that the Dog wish to go, and want me to take her to the wet.

   

  That was my story, and my agreement. Yours can be opposite. Try to meditate on it, and try to feel on it.

   

   
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    clearandlucid > Rune. H August 25, 2011 at 10:56pm

    Thank you so much for sharing. Yes, i do agree with you and now that it is over our soul agreement was something I completed with him.  It was very difficult though and I will take your advice and meditate so that I will be prepared BEFORE my 15 yr old dog needs me to complete the agreement with him. much love...
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    clearandlucid August 25, 2011 at 9:58pm

    Thank you so much for your sentiment 1HappyKelly, I agree wholeheartedly! My reaction to Otis's death took me by surprise.  As much as I love him, I knew he was failing and I thought I was mentally prepared for it and you know? I WAS mentally prepared- but not prepared in my heart.  To watch a loved one go through the dying process challenges how prepared we are to truly seeing the illusion we live in.  All of a sudden, the illusion was no longer and it was very real.  He was leaving my sensory world and my human-ness would miss my day to day tie with him. Moment by moment was challenging to stay balanced. Otis just yesterday let me know that I still have work to do.  thanks again and much love to you.
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  Michael August 25, 2011 at 1:56am

  I hope this picture might soothe you a bit..................... I brought this critter home couple days ago...............I still maintain Love for my domesticated animals eventhou I had to put down 2 of my dogs...........

  tough decissions and yet I felt it was out of my hands to heal them..............

  Love heals all wounds, me think.................
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    clearandlucid > Michael August 25, 2011 at 2:36am

    thank you.  he's adorable.  I hope you have many special years with your new 'critter'.  : )  I sthat his name?

    I'm wondering too about the Karma piece that I wrote about in the original post.......
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      Michael > clearandlucid August 25, 2011 at 9:36pm

      it is she and yes I hope to have wonderful future with this RANI critter.......................

      I wouldn't worry about karma in your case................

      say few prayers for your critters soul's journey, say peace and love for her or him...............

      don't worry and move on...................

      sometimes having domesticated critters involves certain level of participation in it's live but also, they live much shorter life span than humans and we need to accept it...........................darn date of past keep appearing with the pics and I have no clue how to adjust my camera up to the date.......forgive me............................
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      16vjpiryakaw9 > clearandlucid August 25, 2011 at 6:08am

      I'm glad the ordeal is over for you and Otis.  Now begins the healing. 

      It is my belief that as animals are pure spirits that they do not mount up karma good or bad.  They have no way of being intentionally mean spirited. The wild ones kill but only for sustenance.  That is the way that the Lord intended so they are pure when they die also. 

      With your intention to only do the right thing, whether it be in letting him go naturally or by a vets care - this would also be pure hearted intention so it is my belief also that you created no karma for that loving act.

      To me karma is an intentionally dark act that you must pay back.  How would that work with pure loving intention?

      Be at peace and love your next pet without regrets.

      Love and light always.

       
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        clearandlucid > 16vjpiryakaw9 August 25, 2011 at 9:47pm

        Thank you Sarendippity, thank you for your kind words throughout.....I took his bed away from his Feng Shui 'defensible position' under the coffee table but I put it back this morning.  I have a feeling he's lying there in Spirit watching us and wondering what the heck happened to his bed??!!! The kids agreed it was too soon to remove.  Not quite yet.......  I feel he's happy though. I read recently a piece on Emotions vs Feelings which summed up what I had to stay focused on, tough as it was and emotions did get the better of me throughout this time.  Emotions come up based on our past while feelings are what happens in the present.  I FEEL good about where he is now and how he chose this but my emotions were all over the place based on projections of past losses.

        thanks again, ox 
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  clearandlucid August 25, 2011 at 12:55am

  Thank you and much Love to you who have responded to my dilemna.  Otis is free now to roam wherever he pleases and my heart misses him but is not so heavy now. When I typed my post, Otis should have been out cold with the sedative he was given but by midnight he was acting like a toddler who just moved into his 'bigboy' bed from the crib. He wanted to roam the house but was so weak he would only go so far and would lay on the floor exhausted, I would gently pick him up and take him to his bed. I was doing this at 1:30 in the morning but I knew I needed to get sleep or today would be impossible.  I woke this morning and Otis was laying on the kitchen floor unable to get himself up so I put him back to bed.  He looked so comfortable and slept.  The sedative would be wearing off at 11:00 (it wore off the night before, right?) and I knew that today I would have to set him free.  He decided otherwise though, as he defied the sedative, HE also  removed HIMSELF from this world by 12:00 noon. I sat with him through it, patted him, meditated with him and gave him Reiki energy.  I used animal and flower essences on him -and me and my kids (!).  I knew only then that I made the right decision yesterday to sedate him rather than euthanize him(sedation came up through kinesiology and dowsing, euthanization dowsed as a no). He 'told' me through his refusal to 'sleep' that he was going to be in charge of this. I just wish the message would have come sooner. Otis taught my children many lessons through this experience. They are teen boys and I am very proud of the way they said their long goodbyes, sat with him, helped at the vets yesterday, dug the burial hole in the woods next to his sisters graves : (  and wrote their sealed goodbye notes to be buried with him.  They gave me great support and I them.  I euthanized Otis's sister 6 years ago because she 'told' me that it was right-after the terminal diagnosis she stayed in hiding for 2 days(we have a big house and she found a spot I never would have found) until I 'spoke' to her(the air) and let her know that if she shows herself, I would end it now for her.  She showed herself on our 'catwalk' within 5 minutes and meowed at me. I called immediately and brought her to the vets.  Either way is traumatic, i'm not a judge to say which way is better.  Waiting for my pets answer worked out in both cases but Otis had me in anguish until the last hour!  I know it was right though. I thank you for your loving responses and I didn't take it harshly, i believe you are both right but in my case my vet would have put him down if I requested, she is a Godsend to the profession, truly. I have recently read about felines group consciousness and am looking forward to having Otis in my life again. For now, he is basking in the sun, cornering mice, sculking birds, and purring at my feet.  I love him. My grieving will lessen each day as I work on balancing myself again.  I see lots of meditation in my immediate future! ox
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  16vjpiryakaw9 August 24, 2011 at 6:03am

  Dearest Clearandlucid:

  I am sorry for your extreme anguish at having to make that decision.  I too have had that type of situation where I had to make the call.  I chose to put my wonderful terrier to sleep instead of letting him endure more suffering.  I stayed with him as the vet lovingly administered the shot and petted him until the life breath departed.  HOWEVER!!!  To my immense surprise, I could feel him actually appear next to his body in a puppy spirit form jumping around so lively it amazed me. I am clairaudient so could actually hear what he was saying - I never knew I could do that with animals before, this was new to me.  

  I was trying to feel sorrow and grieving but his spirit was new and vibrant and he kept saying "Mom, let get outta here!  I want to run outside and see things, I feel so good! "Why are we still here, lets GO!" He had not yet realized that he was not bound by the 3D rules any longer but he wanted me to open the door for him.  I could feel him jumping and running beside me all the way to the car and was in a state of duality the whole ride home.  I was grieving and laughing at his puppish antics in the car.  He stuck right to  me as he had always done but his spirit was so light it was blinding.  I realized then that our beautiful animals hold no grudges against us when we make that decision.  They are as happy to be freed from the pain as we hope they are.  After that experience I have helped others to go through that guilt trip of putting an animal to sleep in just relating my story.

  I hope this helps you in your difficult time right now. There should be no guilt in lovingly helping a pet to the spirit world where they are as free as we will be.