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What I like to share is our history...not the one we know from our historybooks but by own investigations and the help of beautifull Lightbeings and other beautifull souls who captured in WW2.

I can for now not go in the the invetigations how we came to this ...but  I like to share as much as I can.

I met Jean Paull who started Occupy in the east of Holland...he motivated me in to the movement and we went on the street to contact people an share information... In that time I was a warrior for the truth and we saw a lot of things that our gouverment didn't want to see...I couldn't beleave that here in Holland our Gouverment is one big coöperation....and later we found out that Brussel is one big Corp.

Jean Paul was intersted by elonged skuls and (I can't go in to this story all the way for our own safety) he saw a place where theire where bones found and he wanted to go their. I offert him to go with him and find out what this was.

We did investgate the place and found out through channeling what happend in WW2 and what Hitler is about...now you can think what has this to do with that...everything! Hitler was a puppet used by big Corp. Farmacheutical/Oil and Iron industrials...If you knew that Maria Ostrich was a channeler for The Vril Society...se the link below for more info.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/alt.movies.spielberg/3gTdGuwdTVE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJgn_umTq-Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoMR_Oj6Qrs&feature=related

So you see what that War was based on...Hitler was building on UFO's and Timetraveling and also explord Middle Earth in Antartica. About 20 years ago I found about 20 years ago on the internet a story of Admiral Byrd who flew in and out of the earth...I couldn't beleave it so a put it a side because I didn't understand it than.

When I saw this...I thougt this is unbeleaveble and I asked my friend Iris, who's a channel, if she could channel on this subject....and what we hear was a wake up call for what happend in WW2..

The thing was that their where a lot of experiments done on the prisonners in the camps in WW2... the brain is like a computer....but our conciosness a whole other thing and they knew that and wanted to find out how much a man could absorbe in his body...what the Lightbeings where telling us is that if you put all concioness in a brain...you wil die or get in a coma...that's to much to handle for the brain.

So what happend to those people is that they got crazy and didn'nt know their reality anymore so the eather died or killed them selfs.

We where prevelist to get contact with the beautyfll souls who lost their lives in that time of War on these experiments...what I found very powerfull is that they say...'you people don't think anymore for your selfs...you take the news from the media as for real...investigate it...don't let other people think for you...start thinking for youselfs...did you ever asked why we use maby 5% of our (right) brain, even our left brain we don't use optimally...and that for me was so thru if you start thinking about it.

Their is so much we don't know what happend there in that War to those people and not only Jews a lot of people found their dead in this War.

We where al victoms...also the Nazi solders..(every solder is a victom of war).

My father was in that war to..he worked for the Nazi's...he had no choise...and when the war was over...their was peace agan...and the people saw a new futher a head..no more War!

I was not aware of what happend their...people wanted to forget here in Europe and moved on.

To get back to the story....so we found out about what happend in WW2. What was so importent.. is that our mission was to connect with Middle Earth....and so we learnt about the heart frequence and how inportend this is for the people on earth in this time....I never thought that middle earth was for real...but now I'm convinced that Middle Earth exists...I found a wonderful story of a Norwegian sailor Olaf Jansen...see the link below.

The Smokey God... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPcEHSDGbP4 ....if you lay down and close your eyes you feel the story...if you in it.

So we found out about Middle Earth...and it had to do with our heart frequence....

Gregg Braden explanes very good how our heart works, see below,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp-P031C4Vg&feature=related

So after WW2 when the rebuilding started..we thought...this may never happen again...what do we see....it never endid.

Project Paperclip...was to get the German scientists to the USA...wouw...when a get into this story it came to me that WW2 never endid...see below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHHR6a9ZzwA 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGQBEdEnRAo&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaWpKhEaqkw&feature=related...

Now we see how WW2 began and what players their where involved here, Ifound a e-mail book 'The Nazi Roots of The Brussels EU', written by Paul Anthony Taylor, Aleksandra Niedzwiecky, Matthias Rath and August Kowalczyk who was in Auschwitz...when I saw this book a called Paul Anthony Talor in England...I was so motivated to find somone who did research on this subject and we share now the knowledge of this subject....I'm so preveleged to know him and share the same truth here...see below the free e-mailbook,

http://www.relay-of-life.org/nazi-roots/index.html

So we see now how Auschwitz was not only used for experiments on the people in Auschwitz...

I write a subject from the book The Nazi Roots of The brusels EU.....'Offical documents from the US congress and the Nurenberg war crimes tribunals unequivocally show that WW2 was not only prepered, but also logistically and technically facillitated by the largest and most notorious oil and drug cartel at that time, namely, the German IG Farben, BASF, Hoechst and other chemical companies. The summary of the indictment from Neurenburg proves that without IG Farben, WW2 could not have taken place'.

So now where are giving our rights away in Europe as induvidual country's to Brussel and if we don't wake up to this knowledge where the world is going to.

To find out if a speak for Holland...our Queen is the director of the Netherlands and that's probbeley why see is a member of the Bildenbergs organisation...what the discus their...we never know...this is not Democratie...it's big buizness.

The Dr. Rath Foundation did a lot of reseurch on Cancer see below,

http://www.victory-over-cancer.org/about/dr-rath.html

His grandfather and father where solders in WW1 and WW2...I was with one of hid lectures in Maastricht,Holland, and when he started speaking of the history of WW2 poeple couldn't handle it and walked away....this is what you see...we are so mind manipulated that we can't handel the truth about it....specialy here in Holland...I've got the book always with me because of the Swastica cross...you see people look at it and don't dare to speak about it...so much hurt and fear is there from that war...they just can'beleave it...and I can undersand it to...so I try to expain and talk about it...we need to know if we want to see what's going on in this world....I also understand if people get angry of the disception...but now we can see it...don't fight it...but stand together in this in our power with no fear..

see the hu-man in the policeman and millitair..see the hu-man in everybody...share and help each other..we are the leaders..all of us...dare to stand in your power/love and forgiveness don't fight....

WE WANT THE TRUTH FOR FREEDOM

Their is stil so much to share about the Vatican and the Royal bloodlines...perhaps a other time...because a see that people interact on this site from al over the world it's time to share and start thinking for ourselfs...for now Istand for Freedom in this world with no fear...I've nothing to hide..I just want to share....

Our history is importent to see if we want to understand how our world looks like...let's stand together...if we fight it we feed it...so see it and stand above it... be open and feel for yourselfs..stand in your power in love and light. If people don't wanne hear this that's good to...everybody has his/her own development in their lives...that's is OK...you are stil loved.

Their are two emotions fear and love....let's go for LOVE!

Bless you all...this is a part of my story....with love Liesbeth Lammers

ps. excuse my englisch writing if a spelled something wrong.