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However, the right enviroment for discussion about Iran can never be attained if what is in the uppermost concern in the 'western mind' is the alleged 'evil nature of Iran'. This brings Iran to the same situation as Iraq at then, where the emotions clouded reasoning in congress amid the hype about Saddam chemical weapons, 911 and other nonsense.
Why do you have a problem in understanding me on this? I haven't talk about Iranian theocracy nor about the nature of government that should be in Iran. It is you 'Britons' and 'Americans' who are so concerned about internal matters of other countries. It is the duty of Iranis to decide what type of government they like, not me! If they like tyranny and Islamism, that is up to them.
My concern is only in internal security of Iran as threatened by an external country, such as U.S.. In the same way, I have no interest with Russia's internal matters. That is the duty of Russians. U.S. has invaded countries like Iraq etc and destroyed them, leaving a worse mess in the name of 'fighting a tyrant', haven't they? Don't you think we should be concerned with U.S. doing the same thing in Iran in the name 'fighting a theocracy'? Shouldn't Iran be secured from the powerful forces who might intrude there and make things even worse like they did in Libya, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan etc? That is my concern. I am not interested with government in Iran, whether it is a theocracy or whatever.
BUT, let us hear from an Iranian living in Britain, brought up here, after his family escaped the ayatollahs.....The MSM does not cover this much, but GB News does....So listen to this vid and you might even learn something useful....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aianyVOy8QU
I also recall thinking about this in the 1980s, when the Soviets had invaded and had got bogged down, fighting the mujahideen guerillas...
We British learned this centuries ago and why we never bothered to incorporate this lawless tribal region, in the Empire...In fact, there were military units stationed on the North West Frontier, with Afghanistan, to protect the Indian Raj and keep the Pashtun (Pathans) in order....
So we kept to the frontier (Khyber Pakhtunkhwa) and only crossed it, when necessary...
The UK did foolishly back the international demand to sort out the Taliban, after 911 and that was due to the moronic Tony Blair and his globalist sympathies...These policies were not in our national interests....We should not have sent troops into Afghanistan....
So I personally know and knew, that Afghanistan was a hopeless case...and still is....They have nothing that we might want, other than trouble....
However Iran is in exactly the same situation as Russia, and even Putin agrees with me! Iraq is in the proximity of Iran just like Ukraine is, to Russia. West has toyed with Iraq, trying to make it its puppet, just like they have done, Ukraine. Consequently, Iranian national security is under a huge threat from U.S. Iran is far less powerful than Russia, so it is forced into a rogue behaviour to defend itself.
These are similar situations. Lets not be blinded by our political bias!
Similarly, I haven't bought into this idea of 'Biden is the demon' and 'Trump is the angel' nonsense so entrenched in this site. I criticise Biden when he does wrong, and do the same to Trump etc. I criticise China, Japan, Britain, Kenya etc. Nations mean little to me. I don't see why someone should take me in circles when I criticise Trump, or Britain for obvious wrongdoings. If some here have thought that Trump is perfect, then that is a pervertion that no religionist can eclipse! Same applies to nations, If you think that pple should shower praises to Putin, maybe because Trump seemed to endorse him, and no one should praise Iran for anything, maybe because Trump was so down on Iran, then you have brought the mindset of religion into politics! What a sorry state!
"And ask yourself this, if Afganistan and Iran are such wonderful exemplars of virtue, for you, why are so many people escaping from them, wanting to come to Britain, or America..??
"I-RAN." lol 😆Poverty and tyranny, maybe..?? Frankly I would not visit these places if you paid me to...."
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I ask myself such questions, but then, I go ahead and ask an even more daunting question: Why were Britons etc fleeing from Britain to America, Australia and even to Africa during the colonial times. Are you then agreeing that Britain, at then, was not such a wonderful exemplar of virtue? If yes, what were you arguing about all along? I mean I was trying to show you that banning of slavery on its own never meant that Britain stood for virtues?
"You seem to think that Iran and Afganistan are centres of excellence, when they are both absolute hellholes and nothing for you to be proud of."
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That is what I SEEM to think, when someone carelessly peruse my posts. But this is what I ACTUALLY think:
Both Iran and Afghanistan are composed of people just like Britons are. Therefore they too deserve the dignity like everyone else. Their are not the toying grounds for Britons and Americans to create their own types of governments there. No one would be proud of Britain if it was a work of foreigners. You yourself never liked the idea of Britons having been illiterate when Iranis etc were erecting empires. Why do you like describing another country as 'hell hole'? You have tried so hard to vindicate Britain during its darkest periods of colonialism, and now you call a country, which has never sought to extend its jurisdiction an 'hell hole'?
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