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1. How You know you are awake?
2. What is Reality?
3. How do you know that you are in the so-called Reality?
4. Does everyone live in a different reality?
My reply:
What drove humans to develope 'real' or 'not real' concepts is the presence of sets of information that purports to pertain to a set of information that we have labled it in some way. The later info is called 'reality'. We have, for instance, identified the concept 'guitar' with a set of information: the stiff neck, frets, tightening screws the resonator the strings etc. So we say 'the real guitar has a stiff neck, a string etc'. If we see what looks like a guitar but, when close exermined, lacks those essential attributes, we may say 'this is not a real guitar'. If, for instance, the neck is made of plasticine, we may say 'this is a model of a guitar, but not a real guitar'. If the strings or the object itself don't move, we may say this is a sculpture, an image or a photograph of a guitar, but it is not a real guirar.
Of course as a model of a guitar, we can go one and talk of it as a real model. So it is not a real guitar but it is a real photograph of a guitar! So the suspicion 'this is not real' only make sense if the scenario is a set of information that purpots to pertain to another set of information that we label it because the latter set routinely manifest. When we see an object comming, we can wonder if it is a lion because the 'lion' apparition has come to us over and over, and so by 'real lion' we mean 'the one similar to the usual'. The 'unreal lion' is the one that differs significantly from the ussual 'lion'.
If a dream could recur consistently, then we can meaningfully talk of the scenarios we saw as 'real things'. We can begine to call them names such as 'Carpathian', 'Elfs' etc. So when we see another thing, or have another dream, we can wonder if we are seeing a real elf or if we are in the real place we called it 'Carpathian'. In other words we are wondering if 'we are experiencing the usual dream as we often do' and so 'we are seeing a real elf' since the concept 'elf' is what we formed in the dream itself, and not anywhere else.
So dreams can only be said not to be real if they seem to tell us 'we are in the usual wake world' of which we will discover it otherwise when we wake up. We say 'we are not in real London' because the concept 'London' is what we coined in the wake state. But if the scenario in the dream is understood as 'a london-like place' in a world called 'Carpathian', then that will be a real 'Carpathian', but it is not a real London.
what catched my attention in one of our exchanges was your argument of counter-intuitive approach, that reminded me of the saying "don't settle for the low hanging fruit", meaning, there is always more to discover, I believe there are 12 dimensions :)