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Muslims say that indead Enoch was more than described in the bible. He was a prophet, and Like Muhammad, he had a book revealed to him. The book, they say, is lost. They say even Adam and Isaac had a book that was lost.
BTW Just to elaborate on reasonability of Jews, note that Jews did not reject a book because of what it said (a kinda attitude new age would have had!) Jews did not like being told they were stiff naked, wicked pple who fully diserved being driven to captivity and slavery! But almost every book in the bible insist so! All prophets ferociously railed against the top-most pple-priests, Kings, Queens and their families, so that it is hard to say that the bible was concocted by the Jewish Elites!
This is important because it shows that when compiling OT, jews could not be easily fooled by a recent book pretending to have been written in antiquity. They had reliable ways of detecting such books, and one of them is that it is unthinkable to say that a book that has been around for centuries never influenced even a single other author!
So when sceptics tell us that the book of Daniel, pretending to be an ancient book, was blatantly inserted into jewish canon, without even causing any debate amongst Jews, know that the sceptic's claim is very thin!! We must accept that Daniel made prophesies that were fulfilled, whether we understand how or not!
Note that while the story of fallen Angels is failling to influence such past writers from Malachi to genesis, it definetly begines to influence NT authors, eg peter, jude and John! Yes even Jesus himself was definitely influenced by the book of Enoch. For instance 'blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth' is a teaching from the book of Enoch! This shows that Enoch must have been part of early Christian bible, just like is the case in Ethiopian bible!
In the so-called Catholic Catholic Catholicism book it says about the angels, that they are by nature spirit and serving in essence.
I don't understand why angels can do a sin then. I always thougth only Humans can choose between ligth and dark or good and evil.
Even this midrash i told you. That so called Satan was the strongest Archangel Sataniel and he migth say a No to God? How coud a Archangel say no to God? This is something wich made no sence to me."
Maybe this is one of the reasons the book of Enoch was not included in Jewish OT. The story of 'sinning angels' is not echoed anywhere else in the Jewish OT bible. Neither do angels Azazel, Azza and Uzza, the angels mentioned in Enoch, mentioned anywhere in the Jewish OT. Contrast this with Noah and Soddom and Gomorrah. You find Noah in several places apart from Genesis. For instance Numbers 27:1, Joshua 17:3, 1Chronicles 1:4, Isaiah 54:9, Ezekiel 14:4 etc. Soddom and Gomorrah is also echoed in Jeremiah 23:14, Ezekiel 16:49-50 etc. But the story of 'sinning angels', so rampant in Enoch, is not found anywhere else in OT bible.
Vatican in Latin literally means divining serpent
New King James Version
14 Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints"
This is a quote from Enoch 1:9 shows that the early bible had this book!
Also this verse doesn't make sense in the usual bible:
"Jude 6
New King James Version
6 And the angels who did not keep their
[a]proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day;"
But is is stated several times in Enoch, eg Enoch 10:14
Also:
"2 Peter 2:4
New King James Version
Doom of False Teachers
4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to
[a]hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment;"
New King James Version
4 Unto the upright there arises light in the darkness;
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