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  marker dragon August 6, 2021 at 9:31pm

  @roaring. I am fine with anything you want to say. It will either resonate or not. There is no such thing as proof. Proof is only known by being outside the 3d matrix. There is nothing real in 3d matrix. I will assert truths and I do not care what anybody thinks
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  marker dragon August 6, 2021 at 8:02pm

  Vatican literally means divining serpent in Latin. They put in in our faces
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  marker dragon August 6, 2021 at 8:01pm

  The Catholic Church 100% reports to Vatican
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  marker dragon August 6, 2021 at 8:01pm

  Offending is meaningless. Only 100% truth matters in my opinion. A little white lie or exaggeration is the same low frequency as a lie that kills thousands
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  marker dragon August 6, 2021 at 6:01pm

  The Catholic Church and Vatican, the leaders only believe in Satan. They are the enemy of God
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  marker dragon August 6, 2021 at 6:01pm

  It is the leadership of catholic church that is evil. Many are involved with them as captured and tricked victims
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  marker dragon August 5, 2021 at 5:34pm

  @deminorca, that is not strange. Catholic Church are all satanists. They do not support Source, Jesus or other beings of light
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  Roaring Lovely August 5, 2021 at 10:28am

  

  Having said these, note that this doesn't prove that Enoch was pseudepigraph. It only shows that Jews were reasonable in rejecting it. A book can genuinely get lost without influencing anyone, only to be rediscovered in distant future. 'God', (or angels or ETs or whoever might have revealed these books) might have intended it solely for a future audience and chose to reveal it in the past for reasons we don't know of.
  
  Muslims say that indead Enoch was more than described in the bible. He was a prophet, and Like Muhammad, he had a book revealed to him. The book, they say, is lost. They say even Adam and Isaac had a book that was lost.
  
  BTW Just to elaborate on reasonability of Jews, note that Jews did not reject a book because of what it said (a kinda attitude new age would have had!) Jews did not like being told they were stiff naked, wicked pple who fully diserved being driven to captivity and slavery! But almost every book in the bible insist so! All prophets ferociously railed against the top-most pple-priests, Kings, Queens and their families, so that it is hard to say that the bible was concocted by the Jewish Elites!
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  Roaring Lovely August 5, 2021 at 8:49am

  

  You can go on to look for other 'catchy' events recorded in one book and echoed in other books. Take for instance 'the parting of red sea'. We find it in Joshua 2:10, psalms 136:13, Isaiah 51:10, numbers 33:8 etc etc.
  
  This is important because it shows that when compiling OT, jews could not be easily fooled by a recent book pretending to have been written in antiquity. They had reliable ways of detecting such books, and one of them is that it is unthinkable to say that a book that has been around for centuries never influenced even a single other author!
  
  So when sceptics tell us that the book of Daniel, pretending to be an ancient book, was blatantly inserted into jewish canon, without even causing any debate amongst Jews, know that the sceptic's claim is very thin!! We must accept that Daniel made prophesies that were fulfilled, whether we understand how or not!
  
  Note that while the story of fallen Angels is failling to influence such past writers from Malachi to genesis, it definetly begines to influence NT authors, eg peter, jude and John! Yes even Jesus himself was definitely influenced by the book of Enoch. For instance 'blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth' is a teaching from the book of Enoch! This shows that Enoch must have been part of early Christian bible, just like is the case in Ethiopian bible!
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  Roaring Lovely August 5, 2021 at 7:33am

  

  "SAN 不滅 August 4, 2021 at 8:16pm
  
  In the so-called Catholic Catholic Catholicism book it says about the angels, that they are by nature spirit and serving in essence.
  I don't understand why angels can do a sin then. I always thougth only Humans can choose between ligth and dark or good and evil.
  Even this midrash i told you. That so called Satan was the strongest Archangel Sataniel and he migth say a No to God? How coud a Archangel say no to God? This is something wich made no sence to me."
  
  Maybe this is one of the reasons the book of Enoch was not included in Jewish OT. The story of 'sinning angels' is not echoed anywhere else in the Jewish OT bible. Neither do angels Azazel, Azza and Uzza, the angels mentioned in Enoch, mentioned anywhere in the Jewish OT. Contrast this with Noah and Soddom and Gomorrah. You find Noah in several places apart from Genesis. For instance Numbers 27:1, Joshua 17:3, 1Chronicles 1:4, Isaiah 54:9, Ezekiel 14:4 etc. Soddom and Gomorrah is also echoed in Jeremiah 23:14, Ezekiel 16:49-50 etc. But the story of 'sinning angels', so rampant in Enoch, is not found anywhere else in OT bible.