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Okay this is my first post and I'm asking for advice. :) I live with my parents and little brother in California. My parents aren't what you would call open minded so the only person I talk to about what's going to happen this year and the wonderful things about disclosure and ascension is my little brother who is ten and I'm fifteen. I try to take it slow with my parents informing them as much as possible about these wonderful changes that are happening and that there are other beings not just us.But they reject it and say things like "That's the government not ufo's" and they say "The bible doesnt say anything about 'aliens' so there arent any" -because their Christian T_T. They are so concerned about material and dont show any ascension symptoms. I wouldnt want for them to reject what I say anymore because its for their own good, but because they beleive so much and are devoted to their religion -which i do not follow and get dragged to church- they only trust in their God and Jesus Christ which I have no knowledge if they are real or not .They have been in their comfort zone of this illusion too long and must come out. But I don't know how to inform them about this great future not even years away were talking weeks maybe without being rejected by them because they can't believe it and they think they know what they believe in is everything and only the truth. But I feel it is not because I have learned that some stuff is true but people have changed it and totally missfigured the lessons in it that we have been given as messages. So can anyone just give me advice on how to cope with this ?Or can it not be helped or will my parents just have to see the change and disclosure when it happens and then will they finally believe?Please excue me if I made any spelling errors. :)

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Oops it's not the 18th and it's 8:06 pm where I am

Well I don't think there's much you can do, except wait until the disclosure and announcements. I've tried telling religious people about this stuff, they don't take it seriously, they're too into their beliefs. There's not much you can do. You can try telling them about it, and then hopefully the seed will be planted, even if they don't believe it, so when the time comes, they won't be so shocked. But ultimately you can't really convince them of anything. I've found, most people tend to believe what they want to believe...and you can put a ton of evidence in front of them, it usually doesn't work. Some people just have a very closed one track mind that's difficult to pry open. Sometimes you just have to let it be.

How to cope with it? Well I think you just have to be patient..and understanding too, try to understand where they're coming from. They have a lot of vested interest in their religion...and I'm convinced that people like that will only change their beliefs when their prophets like Jesus get here and sets the record straight. Like there's no way to convince them that the Bible is flawed lol They find ways around it, they find ways to justify it, they find ways to apologize for it...you can use all the logic and morality in the world, but it doesn't work. So...just try to be patient..learn as much as you can about their religion and how it connects to ascension and real spirituality...so you'll be in a better position to help them make the transition once it actually starts happening. That's my advice to you.

Wonderful advice John.  You are so right about people's beliefs.  Unless faced with physical proof of things, they will continue with whatever they have faith in themselves.  Because faith is a personal thing, it is hard to change anyone's mind, and the more you try to dispute what they believe the more devout people become.  

Cherie, what John said about patience being needed is so true, it is about the only thing you can do.  Just remember that they have had their beliefs for a lot longer, and they have based their life around it.  The future will take care of itself...Please do not worry.

 

Right that's the thing about spirituality, it very much is at the core of people's hearts...and their lives...so you can't really mess with it without getting some push back. If it really was that easy to change them, organized religion wouldn't exist today lol So you can't really change them...they'll change when it strikes them...until then, there's not much you can do. As for the disclosure and announcements and all that, well there's alot of info on the net about it, but nothing real concrete that you can point at and go, oh see, it's gonna happen. So it all really comes down to what you choose to believe. And..people have a right to choose whatever they like. Eventually, if they're wrong, they'll learn.

Thank-you so much John that's just what I needed! I'll just have to wait when the time comes and I'll help them from there :)
Wish it was in the Bible. And thanks for the spiritua family suggestion :)
Thanks mustwakeselfup I think that would be a great I idea I'll ask them *^▁^*

Bless you Cherie; i totally understand your situation;

from what you have wrote you have done everything to help your parents as much as you can!

The problem is, that sometimes our parents/family think they know better because they think they are older and smarter.

im 31 next month and my mum/uncle/grandad (basically everyone older) still think they knows *better* when they dont lol...

(my family like yours are somewhat religious and material too)

so i know its difficult; but be patient with them :) I know I had to be very patient !

believe that they will learn the truth eventually,

& intend for their highest good :)

Until then keep following your heart & joy

<3

Hi,

I believe I understand the kind of situation you're in. First I'd like to share a bit about myself. I was born and raised in a Christian home. Ever since I can remember I always  believed that there was life out there in the universe, besides here on earth and I've always been open minded about everything. Unfortunately there are some members of my family who aren't. I only have one relative who I can talk to about anything and we've had our share of conversations regarding our other family members who won't accept anything other then what the bible says. We've tried to convince them and talk to them about the things that are going on but we came to the decision that we can't change their mindset.

Everyone has free will and with free will we have choices. We choose to learn from our experiences or what we decide to believe. You can't force anyone to believe what you want. They have to learn for themselves but if they actually choose to take you're advice, well that's great :) 

But that doesn't happen often. Hang in there and keep caring and loving your family. Who knows, your knowledge might help in protecting them or leading them to the right path. 

The religions are thinking the same thing, that they can save people with THEIR knowledge to protect people and lead them down the "right path" new age, christian, buddhist, whatever, it is all the same, you go around telling others your way is the right/only way,

It is pretty sick and disgusting.  More so when the New Agers do it,  this is supposed to be a NEW world, not the same old crap wrapped in a shiny new package.

The bible also says the stars are holes poked in the ceiling of our world.  The bible also doesn't mention the cars they have so they must not exist or the computers and billion other things invented since the bible was written.  Do those things exist or no?

Another thing you must consider is they have their unprovable belief, you have a different unprovable belief.  They think Jesus will come again to save the world and destroy the sinners.  Those in the New Age system believe jesus as sananda and the other angels are coming to save the world and destroy the "cabal"

Really what is the difference?   what is the difference in them teaching you christianity for "your own good" or you teaching them about the new age for "their own good". 

If you wish to avoid conflict with others stop trying to convert them to your belief and at the same time ask them to do the same.  Your parents and other christians have been waiting 2000 years, New agers 200 at the most.  They at least are not so foolish as to claim dates on when their prophecy will come.  The new age is built to fail when nothing occurs on Winter Solstice 2012.  Except that they have already conveniently taken care of that by offering "it might be in spring 2013" which started over a year ago.

Do not insist to others that your belief is a certainty when you do not know if it is, same with any other belief.  State your belief defend your points, do not try converting people.

I have similar issues in my life as my parents are staunch Jehovahs witnesses. If it isn't in their bible they wont have it. The one thing you have to realize is we are each on our own path and are going to follow them regardless of anyone else. To make yourself feel better express to them what you think and feel in a non-aggressive manner as people tend to get super offended when you challenge their beliefs. Tell them and stand back and just know you did the right thing and know that if this is their path eventually they will walk it with you, not everyone is done with this karmic type of existence. Look up George Kasavalis on YouTube he addresses this issue quite eloquently. Light + Love. - Josh

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