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  rev.joshua skirvin May 7, 2013 at 1:32pm

  Its early in the morning here, my mind is a bit foggy and I must get to bed so I will make it short. Not much time so I choose Kellys remark. I have meet many of them both (ET's) the good ones and some bad ones, also I met them up on there ships. And I was a believer that we were going to be rescued by them for the last 25 yrs, up until about a yr ago on this site when all there (Visitors) lies and false flags started showing up. Then I went back to the "Allies of Humanity" posts and realized we have been had. Not by the real Ashtar or GFL but by the VISITORS who pretend to be them. So I put the word out and others posted the vids on the Allies of Humanity and thats when I started to post every wk about the Visitors so that people could see what was really going on, how and why we were being tricked. And now there are many like myself who have went from believing that we need to be rescued ,to now believing that we need true ET friends and that we have to rescue ourselves both in a spiritual sense and in a material sense. And Kelly is right , on the positive side of all of this false flags, we are learning to use our power of Manifestation and if we want this Event to take place we must manifest it ourselves so that is seeing the good in the bad and I like that. Were getting on top of things now. The Disclosure will come from and through us such as the Disclosure conference last wk. And the Film by Dr. Greer and friends and NESARA will be the same, we have to create the new money system and soon because the old one is failing. And of course last but not least is getting rid of the DC and there NWO. And the VISITORS  are now working with them and we are exposing them in every thing that they do, we are not the sheeples like the rest of society who believe all the lies without question, that they are told by them through the MSM. And this rebuttal and others on this site is a good example that we are not going to take it anymore. And if we stay on them especially when they send us more false flags, then sooner or later they will back off, cause they know they are wasting there's and our time. Power to the people,huh Adonai
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  Geo:) May 6, 2013 at 6:00pm

   Light Being :) (and readers ;D)
  
  Hey their :) Ahh sorry if that comment felt directed in some way. It was. . misplaced to certain extent in the comments. Anyhows yea I completely agree and understand what your saying their :)
  
  I just like being able to cut away to the model mechanics of things sometimes too. . because any situation is a neutral construct in essence. . and can be used for ether "good" or "ill". . as has always been.
  But understanding this. . is key yes <3 Problem is. . its more like dealing with card shuffling. . as you probably know. What you bring about to awareness endlessly becomes viewed as discriminatory instead of revealing mechanics of situations for others to understand. . or not :)
  
  The "outsiders" I assume build the vein for the blood to flow through. . to some extent. Hey. . where did I get that from now :D. . ahem. . tip toes away.
  
  I find the best way to connect to "cosmic energies" or beings or whatnot. . or "channel" is vie music. .  :)
  
  All is needed is ourselfs. . right where were standing.
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  Kelly Lightchalice May 6, 2013 at 5:34pm

  I wish I could offer some words of support for you, Rev, that you could relate to and that would give some comfort... I can only share that the inner journey is more important the outward "things" that we perceive as reality and that eventually you will meet the cosmic energies for yourself, and you will encounter the beings that some channels talk about... and if you are brave and true in your heart, you will know the truth for yourself without any middleman. 

  Good luck, and god bless :-) 

  (PS- giving dates is a way to try and force the future into a particular direction, even if well intentioned, the channel may be trying to get humanity to imagine the disclosure and thus bring it about through the power of thought and intention- if enough of us think it will happen- then it will- do you see?) 
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  Light Being May 6, 2013 at 4:35pm

  Hi geonic

  let us not Judge them as any different than us, but instead judge the situation and its facts

   This is the crux of things ;) Always was (and should have been)    :)

  . . . I just had to grab it their :) and repost it :))

   

  Yeah you did have to grab it and re-post it, : ) glad you did.....

  The crux of this is the fact that some of us don’t make up a load of rubbish and portray it as truth, neither do they exploit naïve and gullible people and keep on doing it again and again, (well when I say some of us) I mean decent, sensible people, those naïve people who believe without question and do not use practical common sense with these channelings and other supposed ‘false flag’ incidents are in danger as being no different than the liars who dish out this garbage.

  You really can’t logically just judge the situation and it’s supposed ‘facts’ like as in the case of myriad channelings because they have never been correct in the facts or truth.

  So in reality the sensible folk are different.
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  Geo:) May 6, 2013 at 2:54pm

  Adonai El Ra mentioned the following.

  let us not Judge them as any different than us, but instead judge the situation and its facts

    This is the crux of things ;) Always was (and should have been)    :)

  . . . I just had to grab it their :) and repost it :))
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  Light Being May 6, 2013 at 2:02pm

  The answer is YES they are deceiving, always have been, but people are just as daft in their own little world's for believing the twaddle that they spout.

  As for channels been 'hacked' haaahaa, wondered what these 'people' would use as an another excuse for failed messages, e.t.c, no such thing as trustworthy channels.

  Alien intervention pic.....space debris, distant stars...

  Well said leffotrak and adonai el ra  :)

   

   

   
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  Dreamsicle May 6, 2013 at 10:53am

  There is no such thing as a trustworthy channel. They're all liars. Some of them use this trick positively, others... not so much. Most know they're lying. Most. But there's a select few who genuinely think they're channeling something beyond themselves but all they're doing is writing from the heart, writing what they *think* (assume) these "beings" would say. -- Why do people do this intentionally? Well, why does anyone deceive? Followers. Trust. Attention. Money. The satisfaction that they feel they're clever enough to "pull one over" on vulnerable people.

  It's like, you know those "psychics" who "dress the part" (it's all part of the show) at carnivals or out of their house? They do what they do because they know they can make money off it, and yeah, everybody's gotta eat... but they're not really psychic. But it does require a certain degree of intelligence and the ability to "read people" (like an FBI profiler) to know what "the customer" wants to hear... what will keep them coming back.

  Remember the whole "2012" debacle? Channellers everywhere were convinced something big was going to happen that year. And did it? Nothing out of the ordinary. Except that there were a TON of people who fell for it. Some people learned from this grand deception, some did not.

  In the end, will all this "ET" and "UFO" stuff matter? When you die and "remember the truth" or whatever... you're going to see that all of this is one grand distraction. Distracting you from what really matters. And in the end, what really matters? I personally think it's the memories and connections you make with people over your lifetime. Something that some people put aside because they're too busy eating this garbage.

  Mr. Skirvin, I know we don't agree on a lot of things, but I can't express to you enough how happy I am for you that your intuition flag is going off about this. You know something smells fishy and that's because it is. But I don't want that statement to go to your head because from my part of the world, I've seen you believe real, legitimate things were fishy when they were not. And I mean hey, shit happens... there are a lot of excellent and professional liars out there and "this niche" (GFL, love and light hippies etc etc) is not immune to them.

  When I saw the post about "disclosure on May 3rd!" I KNEW it wasn't real. I knew it. But I refrained from saying anything because I was like, "they'll see for themselves when that day comes"... and guess what, everyone did. Nothing happened. And are people still clinging onto what that "messenger" says about in the future? For some reason, sadly, they are. I don't know how many times people have to be lied to, to finally be like, "I'm tired of this game. I'm going to finally stop believing you"... but the number is certainly climbing for some people.

  Even if ETs did exist... what good would it really do for Earth and humanity to have them "prove to us they're real"? It would cause more problems than not. And why do ETs get dibs on "proving themselves"... wouldn't it make more sense for ghosts/spirits to get dibs on "mass disclosure" so people can be like, "well shit, there really IS an afterlife!" I would say angels should get dibs but they're religiously affiliated and if that happened, people would probably start worshipping angels and dropping religions that don't include them and THAT would GREATLY impact the diversity of people on Earth.

  A "mass disclosure" of UFOs/ETs would also take away a piece of our free will. If they ever did do this, people would no longer be able to make a decision for themselves to believe in them or not. It would impact people's imaginations... because instead of people speculating and creating movies/books/art about what they think they look like and do etc... they no longer have the free will to imagine since it was shoved in their face.

  If ETs do exist, and if they really do "show themselves" to other planets... why interfere with this one? It's sorta like when people were going, "you must raise your vibrations so the planet can ascend!"... well, what if not everyone on the planet was ready for this to happen? Notice how happy, satisfied people were not concerned about this one bit. Notice that the people who were concerned about it, were the ones who were unhappy, unsatisfied... "longing for peace" and a list of other things. They wanted this "ascension" to be real because they weren't happy with their lives or themselves and thought this would be the answer to their happiness.

  If ETs did show themselves, they would be idolized. Worshipped. And put on "celebrity status". When I was little, I used to want to be famous. As I got older, I realized that those "famous people" have zero privacy. They constantly get "trolled by the public" and harassed by obsessive fans who "idolize" them. Do you think ETs... who are supposedly much smarter than us (they must be if they can travel through space and teleport and all that magic stuff)... want humans all up in their business?

  Imagine if you will, a planet of the apes scenario. You are an astronaut, you notice a planet run by smart apes etc. You introducing yourself would only upset the balance they've created for themselves. Can you really "help them"? You would probably do more harm than good. They would want to know about your technology, they probably want to explore the universe since they now realize it's possible thanks to you... and sure, some of them may be "decent fellows"... but not all of them will be. And if the "good guys" get this space travel, so would the "bad guys"... and then decades later (or however long it takes them to copy your technology)... we now have good and evil apes roaming our streets, some being productive, others causing havoc. Who knows.

  There might even be planets out there like Star Wars where there are different species from different planets mingling and socializing with each other. If so, you should see if you can reincarnate on one of those planets after this lifetime. But in the meantime, I think humans have their own growth and developing to do and mixing space travelling ETs into the mix will only prevent the universe from seeing what would've happened if the humans were left on their own.
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  Moanna May 6, 2013 at 9:21am

  Thanks Rev Joshua, isn't that the truth, that whoever landed would have to be seriously vetted...at length.. by many.

  Greg Giles said other channelers would be hacked too.

  What criteria would visitors have to fulfil? How could we be sure?

  Love Moanna xxx

   

   
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  rev.joshua skirvin May 6, 2013 at 8:57am

  What a web of Deception they weave. Today they have posted two more blogs saying we must meditate fro 4 hrs at a time for them to show up. And now they are pretending to be Prime Creator and Ashtar. I guess they figured Ahstar False flags are getting old and we on to them so now they use the Prime Creator, as though his name would scare us into believing. But the only thing that is going to make us believe is when they show up, not just as lights in the sky. We know the DC and the Visitors can use holograms to do that and make great shows and they have been doing just that. The first really big show that they did was in Phenix Arz. back in the summer of 97 at night . The show lasted for 3 hrs. What if thats what there doing now and intend to do more, maybe even big time.What we need to see is a landing even if its just for a short time, then we know its not a hologram. I have personally seen many ships and been up on some of them but don't remember much cause they erased it. I am now posting blog from my last book on this. I have also seen many thousands of Orbs and still I can't explain them. I think there are many different kinds just like with the ships.

       I had a dream last night thats thats what they will do, I was parked in my camper on the beach with hundreds of other people to shoot pics and vids of them. I have had similar dreams of doing this.. If it is a continuous thing then it could be the prelude of even a better show in the daylight and then up close and landing. It will be the most strongest tool that we have for convincing people that they are real, then we can proceed to reveal the good ones  and the bad ones and those in-between . But this Disclosure and Contact must be own our terms and not there's because the bad guys are out there now, trying to pretend that they are the good guys and they could take this one step further by de-cloaking as one of the good guys. And even when Contact is made we must take control of the situation and there intention. Giving us free gifts, food,money and energy ect , will just make us dependent on them and under there control. It must be on a equal basis.

  We must develop our own food, cheap fuel for transportation and energy, we already have these things but the DC is holding them and using them or refusing to let us have them, cause we will then be free of the slavery that they have set up. But all of this is a very fine line.We must put away the rescue idea, and that was very hard for me to do, like everyone else I wanted to be rescued but just like getting saved, salvation must come from oneself, we can be should haw to do it but in the end we must do it ourselves and we must be the ones who rescue ourselves with the help of our ET and spirit realm friends, the unseen ones but no hand outs.

  Then we will be on a nearly equal basis. Becoming part of the Galactic family is a sure thing, there is no stopping or turning back now. But how it is done, we have to decide that, not them, cause there is much danger in this process if we team up with the wrong ET's. We must be absolutely sure they are who they say they are and do only what we agree with on our terms not there's, otherwise we will end up in the same mess like with the Annuaki and the Reptilians who now enslave us. And its the Visitors I am mostly talking about here who agenda is also to enslave us by trickery, so we do the work and they take our precious earth as there's and ship all of our natural resources back to there home planet as they have already depleted there own planets. So in the end, we have to decide how this whole scenario plays out. The "Allies of Humanity" have given us this info because it has happened to them. We will probably never get to meet them but they are maybe our best friend as far as ET's go. So we have a lot of homework to do now as we prepare to ascend into the higher Dimensions and into the Galactic family. I am open to comments and questions. Many thanks guys for your help!! L&L Adonai
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  Two Feather May 6, 2013 at 3:36am

  This picture is from a few days ago. The number of ships is growing daily. Converging for something.