Time Symmetry And Causality

Causality is a phenomenon we understand intuitively but do find it difficult to define the word unambiguously. At one point we amuse ourselves that a cause of an event is that which necesarily comes prio to that event. However, we do understand that cause must come prio but that isn't the only essence of causality. For instance we understand that the cue ball must move prio to the billiard ball that is caused to move by the cue ball but in case the cue ball was just a shadow, it won't cause anything even if it necesarily came at that moment. So from a priori knowledge, it is true that all causes must come prio to the effect. But it is not true a priori that that which must come prio the effect is the cause. So time ordering is not the only essence of causality.It is no wonder that the idea of time symmetry present a conudrum when we try to understand causality. Some people seems to be impressed by the idea of time symmetry. They say like space, why is the time axis not symmetrical too? However, recent discoveries may burry those hopes in the grave of forget. Instead of thinking of another space-like symmetry such as a time axis, we should be questioning if space itself is symmetrical! When we were young, gravity seems simpler to understand because we thought that space is asymmetrical. There is a place in space, akin to past, wherein we come from but we cannot go to. Recent works in gravity suggest that we were not that wrong sinse it associate the thermodynamic 'arrow of time' with gravity.You should understand that what physicist mean by 'time riversable dynamics' or 'time symmetrical dynamics' may not be what you think. Most of the laws of physics are said to be time riversable. The second law of thermodynamics is not. Recently, it was shown that the electroweak force is not either! Electroweak, like thermodynamics waves bye bye to the past! It adds more 'arrows of time'. There is also the cosmological arrow. If the universe is expanding, it does so irretrivocably. So when you think of going backwards in time, have in mind that the entire cosmos won't halt, make a U turn and contract back to accomodate you! Gravity is a good example of a symmetry in that in ideal case, if you throw a stone upwards with a certain force, it comes back and arrives with the same force. It conserves information in this sense. Or in that a planet under gravity goes around, comes around, goes around,...,etc. Gravitantional 'arrow of time' is cyclic. But the thermodynamic 'arrow' and the cosmos at large is linear, whether you like it or not! What goes around does not always comes around. In this universe, both welcome and bye bye is real!You have seen that when we talk of time riversable dynamics, we don't mean anything absurd at all. It simply means that there exists a perfectly symmetrical riverse of the act. When you drive the car foward along an s-shaped path, you can at any point, swith to the riverse gear and move backwards as if we are rewinding the film of time and viewing it in backwards 'direction of time'. We say the dynamics at work (electrodynamics) in you is body is riversable. But you are thus not moving backwards in time. Moving in riverse is still a doing of something and not undoing the thing. You won't regain the fuel you used when you come back to the starting point. You will rather use more fuel! There is a beast that has no riverse gear; thermodynamics.But you see that the thermodynamics is not riversable for understandable reason. We have no way of telling the going smock to halt, make a U turn, come back to the exhaust pipe and remanufacture the petrol. The smock is too stupid to understand what we want! It is in this point do I link time symmetry to intelligence! It is here also where I identify the cause of a thing only to the thing felt within. A brute object cannot realy enjoy this property we call causing. It can only be caused. In cause, there is intend. A good way of showing you the relationship between time symmetry and intelligence is this way: gaining knowledge is time symmetric. If you see an house, the 'house' goes to your head. The same same 'house' can come from your head to the outer world. Then consider this other dynamics apart from thermodynamics. We can always wonder how a brute object as a magnet can tell north from south. Also we wonder how the moon seems to know where the earth is and remain faithfull to it and move around it endlessly. It seems a little bit intelligent. Again, it is because the path of moon is time symmetric. At least it understands one thing that only minds can understand: symmetry. We never wonder much on why the brute smock take the whatever path they take. It is the time symmetric dynamics (electrodynamics) that makes your brain. If you still doubt that electromagnetism is intelligent, just take a look at your own brain!
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  • Your so correct in understanding that the brain far outperform even the most sophisticated computer in SPEED. At first, this donnot seem so. It requires carefull close exermination. The comp is infact a snail in the dynauser age!

    The trick is that the brain uses a principle that we cannot even begine to imagine how to program a machine to achieve it; COMMON SENSE. Space is not about 'accurate measurements' by atomic rulers etc. The foot ball only need to know some few tips:

    1.)Is the ball high enough that I should jump?
    2.)Is it low enough that I should stop it with chest?
    3.)Is the goal near enough that I should shoot?
    4.)Is the ball this sideway enough that I should use the left foot?

    Such is what creats the correct idea of SPACE. Not a cartesian grid!!! Such is how the brain will do tasks that are milleniums ahead of a computer!
  • The most comfortable way of changing tasks is the natural way, which is a smooth change in gears that should vary at synch with nature. Bells are artificial and jerky. Using ringing bells to control you is a kin to using burettes and beam ballances to weigh the food you eat! The stomach knows better when you have eaten enough, unless your not healthy.
  • Mostly, I use the sun as the clock! I divide the sky into two, the I divide it into 4, then into 8 etc. I never say what time it is as in a number. I just say: its time for breakfast, i mean the sun is rising, its time for tea break, I mean the sun is on its quarter way. Its time for lunch, I mean the sun is exactly above my head etc etc.
  • From my experience, I am pretty sure that getting up with the sunrise is good to your health!:) by the time the sun rise, automatically, the need for more sleep has completely ended. The biological clock is at synch with the earth!

    Sometimes back, I had a demanding job that made it necesary for to to wake at 5.00 am. I developed health problems, including caughs and chest pain etc. I never knew what caused the problem till they completely disapeared when I resigned.
  • ´´the largest computer needs 40 minutes to calculate 1 second of brain activity.´´

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  • We have a biological clock in every cell of the body. These days people have messed up their biological clocks by setting them to time to go to work, etc.  Another thing that messes with the internal clock is the way they change from summertime to wintertime by setting the clocks back and forward an hour every few months. I think our internal clock is connected to our position on the earth...this is why people get jet lag when they travel on planes.  One thing that I do is to say to myself once a day ´´recalibrating to natural time´´.....to reset my inner clock.  I awaken with sunrise, don´t depend much on clocks.  A few years back I hung my clocks and watches with strings from my ceiling....I called it ´´offering time into space.´´

  • Q:What ruler were we using to check that our ruler was accurate when we were inventing the ruler?
    A:I guess it turtles all the way down!:)
  • How does artificial clocks seem to outperform the clock in the brain? It is in the same way a computer can apparently seem to outperform the brain. However, when we zoom in carefully we find that it doesn't even remortly go near the brain.

    A man made clock is not sophisticated enough to bring about the awareness of duration.

    Music is one such good fun for measuring time.:) you can always tell when the drum beater makes a fantastic timing.

    A mathematical physicist has lost touch with true reality. He kills his hours measuring, calculating, predicting and proving. He nolonger know that a measure of a thing is an arbitrary man made criteria.

    Q:What is length?
    A: I think I know what a ruler is, therefore I know what length is!

    That is not a very smart answer. If we didn't know what length is before we made a ruler, then we would not make one. That is why we didn't use a plasticin to make a ruler. We used a very rigid object.

    Here it goes: we absolutely donnot nead a ruler or numbers to tell:

    a)Janet is taller than Jane
    b)Jane is taller than Janet
    c)Janet is as tall as Jane

    A ruler was invented for mere convenience in that Janet may not be standing next to Jane. But all we wanted to know is if 'Janet' is taller than 'Jane' etc. A ruler was not invented to teach us what length is!! Rather, we could invent one because we understod what we mean by 'length'.
  • Biological clocks are far much more sophisticated than the man made ones! Yet we are thought not to trust this clock!!!

    A proper functioning clock is not that which shows a 'when' as defined by a human being. It is that which moves at synch with the cosmos.

    I repeat: there is no clock that can outperform the clock in your brain!
  • Time should be measured in how much fun we have....perhaps it is naturally...

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