Is Soul A Geon?

I saw someone online raise some realy intriguing scientific theory of a soul. A soul is simply a geon. As I will elaborate below, a geon is a self sustaining gravitantional wave that is caused by the wiggling of spacetime itself. The approach is similar in spirit to my approach when I set forth to explain the light body as a vacuume polarization it the matter-antimatter potential.THE 21 ST CENTUARY APPROACHI beleive that the othordox approach to the question of afterlife have thoroughly failed to answer the question. At the heart of the problem is its insistance that we should not make a rational theory of an afterlife or a soul while at the same time seeking for a prove of one! This is very problematic as the soul proponent will be forced to offer only 'beyond understanding' non answer to all sound objections raised by the skeptics.There are a couple of things that a good scientific theory of a soul should explain. The two most important ones are:a)Why it is hard if not impossible to detect oneb)How nevertheless it should interact with matter in our bodies.The geon idea seems to explain 'a' so well. 'b' is a bit tricky and the lack of any explanation on the part of proponents is one big reason why many people reject the soul completely. Simply saying that 'it is beyond rational mind' is as stupid as claiming that the earth is flat and then saying that it is beyond our minds!GEONFrom Einstein's theory of general relativity, everything that has energy has mass. Waves has energy therefore they have mass and therefore they can gravitate. A physicist term Wheeler set forth to attempt to explain the origin of matter from pure geometry!! So in this model, we begine by empty space together with pulses in it termed gravitantional waves. It is these pulses that will attract each other due to their energy not matter, at least not particles that exist in isolation.So as long as there is energy in spacetime, the energy will gravitate together and as it get more and more dense, it creates what appears to us as matter! Now, our consciousness is said to come about when several neurones fire synchronously. This creates a wave in spacetime which henceforth bind itself gravitantionaly in 'empty space'. Btw the question of what comes first, the soul or the brain is irrelevant to the question of AFTERlife, which is the main issue the soul hypothesis addresses. To me, theories positing a body that scalfholds for the sould formation makes the most perfect sense.Energy In Space Time Energy In Space Time. EINSTEIN
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  • Wings,
    If you think more about this 'geon' idea, you find that it is very close to what Nassim Harramein often say! A pulse in the spacetime propagates at the speed of light. Gravitons, for all relevant purposes in this case behave like photons. For the gravity to truely trap massless wavicles as gravitons, they must form tiny blackholes!

    The geon theorists, beginning from Wheeler, aims at explaining all matter as to be composed of gravitons trapped in mini blackholes. It is very close to the Haramein's approach.
  • In the case of 'geon', yes geon is the same stuff as spacetime. It is just a portion of it doing something else. Apparently, the function of spacetime in this case, as viewed by the inventer of geon theory of the soul, is to encode the information parteining to one's personality as curvartures in spacetime. The second one is to explain the binding problem of consciousness.
  • Everything is the same energy and depending on how it functions at the moment we give it different names.

  • One can observe ANYTHING and let the words escape the mind. I can observe stones fall to the ground and be speachless. But many issues important about gravity remains unadressed. 'Is it possible to land man on moon?'

    We can meditate on anything but the soul proponents misuse meditation in order the make the soul etc UNFALSIFYABLE. What can I say? Everyone meditate irespective of their beleifs. Atheists who doesn't beleive in souls meditate and they never get confirmation of one! We should not use meditation as a red herring when a skeptic paint us to a corner.
  • I was also curious of that yellow man synchronicity. So I wanted to rename it using these initials:

    E=Energy
    I=IN
    N=N
    S=Space
    T=Time
    E=verything
    I=In
    N=Now

    So I would call it Einstein soul but it would bring yet another synchronisity, lol.

    Btw 'geon' is coined 'gravitantional electromagnetism' or something like that.
  • A soul is like a tater chef but not really taters but instead brocolliosewonderbread when instead i let the words escape my head and free my mind and step outta time on my dimes rhymes in the chime of the wind i am simply  not there but somewhere in forever a place there was a speck of noodle sponge absorbing turtle time in an ocean of infinity... and some more of t h e flashdance tiddlywinks extraordinaire simply lighter than air

  • It may be helpfull to google search the images of QUANTUM FOAM. You will get the gravitantional waves woobling spacetime. The patterns are much like neural wiring!! Such wiggles, can even form blackholes!! They are self sustaining. Quantum foams are examples of geons in the subatomic levels.
  • Infact Michelson Morley experiment was trying to settle the issue of whether or not the earth takes the luminiferous ether with it. Not realy to test whether or not ether exists. Anyway lets come to the issue:

    Why should we form a physical idea of spirit? Simple, the soul must be able to interact with matter say in your brain. It is just like LIGHT. We know that light isn't simply mechanical. However, since it can push things, nevertheless, we must form mechanical theories of light to explain these mechanical aspect of light.

    There is a good reason why the materialist will reject a soul in this case. It would seem ad-hocy or Ptolemaic. For the purposes of eluding laboratory tests of electrodynamics, the soul isn't 'material' in that sense that it can't affect electrodynamics such that a physicist may at least in principle measure its effects should it woosh past say the aparatus. Then for the purposes of explaining how the soul influence the body, it must absolutely affect the electrodynamics in the brain. Ergo, the soul can affect matter!

    The othordox approach clearly looks like artificial manipulation and intentional attempt to make the idea UNFALSIFYABLE. Unless a good theory of soul, the idea appears increadible to a reasonable person!
  • It is like the michealson/morley experiment where the either goes with the earth so their experiment failed to show what was part of the earths natural field.

    so it is with the soul , the body is a natural extension of the soul thought process .

    You can prove this by putting your self in a vacum until  the soul seperates from the body then have someone bring you back  , then you will have your dated .

    If you don't like that Idea, then you will have to learn to meditate properly some you can stop your body functions and consciously exit the body and you will see that you are as most worldy people trying to bring spiritual reality down in physical forms of thought,

    expand your mind to see a broader picture of who you really are ,you are spiritual soul having a physical experience.

    love you all Bob

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