Spiritual Forum

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  Exo April 8, 2011 at 3:04am

  Those asking about the source of Einstein's assertion that Ashtar is not residing in this universe and is a renegade, I think someone posted in this site (I guess) an article that Ashtar is in the Dal universe and the entity in charge of First Contact is Vashtar. Someone among you might have also read an article where Vashtar was mentioned.
  
  edit: I now remember, it was Drekx Omega who mentioned it. Below is the link.
  
  http://indianinthemachine.wordpress.com/2010/07/27/drekx-omega-the-...
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    Kelly Lightchalice > Exo April 8, 2011 at 5:05pm

    Yes you are right Exo, and he's been consistent and has made mention a few times about Vashtar.  I think of it as not all the "Ashtars" out there are bad, he is a celebrity entity to some people so any fourth dimension beings can take his name and most lightworker types would recognise him... sounds better than lkjlkj from planet jfhkajdfhk ha ha ha.  But much of the information is Lighted and Good, so perhaps some positive entities are like -well you can call me whatever name you want- Ashtar works- just listen to my message please. 

    Do you remember the Heavens Gate cult who killed themselves to catch an etheric space ship ride?  The cult leader was orginally in an Ashtar cult in the sixties.  I am careful about whom I give my time and thoughts to because of etheric beings who want to suck our energy like parasites... but the farther you get along in your understanding and growth the less attention you pay to such things, the answers lay within your heart. 
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      Exo > Kelly Lightchalice April 9, 2011 at 12:34am

      Kelly, why don't you invite Drekx to join this site? He already visited this site and he got a good vibe with this site. I was surprised to read my name in his blog. :-)

       

      As for the messages that we read, it is wise and healthy to leave some skepticism in whatever we read. Do not blindly follow them without any dose of skepticism.
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  John Jancar April 8, 2011 at 2:38am

  But it never has been about ''saving us''. It has been about HELPING us, and doing their job of being of service to developing worlds. It's been about being the counter against massive negative ET intervention in our evolution. If left to our own devices, without dark side manipulation, first contact would have probably happened 100 years ago, as Dr. Greer points out. Remember, the vast majority of humanity wants freedom, we want to live in peace and harmony and prosperity, most of us want to do the right thing and be good people. But we are being HELD BACK, that is so important to understand.
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  Kaystar April 8, 2011 at 2:25am

  I LOVE George, & thank him heartfully for his sharing of His truth, which is so courageous, after openly admitting to being duped by some members of the GFL . As Wayseers & Lightshowers,our paths are fraught with derision and ridicule,from            many whom are of the mainstream view or paradym. Can we not respect a brother in the voicing of his knowlege,even if we do not agree with the content.As in all things,take what resonates with you,if nothing does,Leave with Grace!
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    kindredsoul53 > Kaystar April 8, 2011 at 2:36am

    I agree whole heartedly...Well said Kaystar.Namaste sister
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  kindredsoul53 April 7, 2011 at 10:38pm

  Hi Ray,

  Ya know, I have been listening and following George Kavasilas for a few months now..I had issues with his discription of Ashtar and the Galactic Federation of Light, but I really understand and believe what he speaks, I do realize though, that his experiences are HIS, and not mine. So I take what resonates true with me, and leave the rest, maybe for another day..Hope this helps, getting another opinion. Namaste my friend.

  Kindredsoul53
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  Dan Wertsbaugh April 5, 2011 at 9:25pm

  Here's the litmus test for deciding whether or not you should listen to someone's dialog/rhetoric; Does it make you feel good? Does it do this without being derogatory or condescending towards others? Is it motivating you towards the 'Spiritual' aspects of life or others?

  Don't listen so much to others, as to the "Goodness or Badness" of something. Remember, this is the time to develop your own Spiritual Cognizance. Allow your Spiritual Insight to take over. I think you might just find something amazing where others have found only trash! 
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  0jw9u9d55x0z9 April 5, 2011 at 9:06pm

  Amazing how "loving" people here criticize him (bald, George Bush, airport, etc).

  Shame on you all.

   
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    kindredsoul53 > 0jw9u9d55x0z9 April 7, 2011 at 10:40pm

    I agree, I Love George, How can you not!! His message is Love