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  Merryn February 3, 2010 at 11:18pm

  I wonder if anyone reading this thread has also read the Anastasia books? (Ringing Cedar series) I can't remember much of the detail, but she talked about how the Jews were brainwashed in the desert, and the main reason for Jesus coming was to try and undo this. He ultimately failed...
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    Andronover > Merryn February 4, 2010 at 7:58pm

    This is fact , and to call it nazi propaganda really pissed me off.
    Read the material and open your eyes!
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      Vagelis4VP > Andronover February 4, 2010 at 8:45pm

      Yes Andronover ...Right On....
      we all know how cry babies the Jews are...always propaganda from movies in hollywood,
      about how bad they we treated in WW2...(which is true, that the people had passed very hard times then), but now they themselves,
      are doing the same and worse to the Palestinians...but for that they never say anything...
      only for the holocaust they have to say...
      And they will say...well its not us...its the bad Zionists...
      I dont care who the hell it is...its the Israeli government...and this government is supported
      by its people...the average Israeli Joe, who maybe he is good in heart, and thoughts, but with
      his ACTIONS, he is supporting his government....
      so dont say to me about how good the Israelis are, and that u were so poor,and mistreated
      in the past....The Israel state has become the same corrupt as was the Nazi Germany...and the Israeli people need to wake up and kick their government asses out....
      Just as WE... all the people in the world need to wake up, and kick all politicians out!!!
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    Vagelis4VP > Merryn February 3, 2010 at 11:31pm

    i dont believe that Jesus failed,(if He ever was here)...
    but the humans failed, to apply the Jesus message through the ages...
    and we are still in the failure road...i hope we will change soon....
    like Larry King once asked Jacque Fresco of the Venus Project:
    "What do you think of Christianity??"....and Fresco answered:
    "-Well, its a wonderful idea...when will they put it into practice??".....
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      Jazmin > Vagelis4VP February 4, 2010 at 1:26am

      Vagelis, thanks for mentioning Jacque Fresco and the Venus Project.
      The January-February 2010 issue of New Dawn Magazine (www.newdawnmagazine.com) also contains this article:
      'The Venus Project & The Zeitgeist Movement' by Chard Currie.
      Unlike the other two I have mentioned above, this article is quite uplifting and full of hope for a better world.
      
      Please visit these websites:
      www.thevenusproject.com
      www.thezeitgeistmovement.com
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        Vagelis4VP > Jazmin February 4, 2010 at 1:03pm

        Thanks for the info, Jazmin...i didnt know about this article at NewDawnMagazine...i will look it out.... :)
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        Merryn > Jazmin February 4, 2010 at 3:11am

        Thanks for these websites Jazmin, I will check them out and hang out for the articles online
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      JEAN FRANCOIS > Vagelis4VP February 3, 2010 at 11:52pm

      if he was of light he would denouce this power behind the scenes and ask for protection from the people...if jesus was president hed kick asssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
      like he did in the temple vs the merchants....
      stop defending this evil man...your being fooled...
      its the non american who are still blinded by this mans words,but american now know and are standing up...2 million americans showed up on 9-12 last year...2 million!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!his evil agendas(or his leaders) are being stopped everywhere..thank god..
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        Vagelis4VP > JEAN FRANCOIS February 4, 2010 at 12:17am

        You are right too Jean that Jesus would have kicked the a$$es of all those merchants(bankers), if He was here...thats why they would Never put Him up to be a president...lol...
        But if He was president, that means that He would "follow the line"... the "systems" line!!!
        Nobody can get in this position otherwise....
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          3rfl3nfqndi4s > Vagelis4VP February 4, 2010 at 12:54am

          I sooo agree with what you said about Jesus, Vagelis, although that's not what I call him. I think a lot of people think of him as a humble, meek, wimp, and, yes, he was humble in not thinking himself better than his brother/sister, but, he was anything but a wimp. He was a True warrior, and that is exactly what got him crucified. He had no qualms about telling the Truth and in a very outspoken manner.