That is not our real sun...

What you possibly are seeing in the sky is an artificial sun.... The real sun is being block by a large reflective screens and being redirected to the old earth orbit, The Earth shift has all ready happen. The real sun rises in the north and sets in the south... All Light Workers and any one interested in this matter, please look into this idea... See references below.

Time of Transition for Planet Earth
A Time of Planet wide Earth Changes

The official beginning of 4D, fourth dimensional energy, will begin to affect Earth's solar system on 11.11.11 as it begins to encounter energy from the galactic equatorial plane region - as a universe & galactic wide harmonic frequency will open and affect this whole area of space.

Whether people call this phenomenon a stargate or portal this area of faster higher fourth dimensional energy is real. This historic date of 11.11.11 begins the infusion of 4D dimensional energy onto your planet. It will affect Earth & its people in a positive, uplifting way like never before experienced in your planet's history.

2012 - 2013
The saturation of this higher frequency vibration will continue from the end of 2011, through all of 2012, reaching full strength during the time of December 21, 2012 - which will bring a completely new, even higher level frequency vibration - such that the experience & measurement of time as the people of Earth have known it... will begin to go away.

These vibrational changes, and continued geophysical changes, earthquakes, volcanoes going off, wave events, these will all continue to happen throughout 2012, into March 2013 [and beyond] when the final rotation of the 90 degree shift of Earth's crust happens with the present day East/West orientation of the continents moving into their new North/South orientation.

There is also expected to be a magnetic pole shift, a reversal, during this time, but will likely not cause any problems for the people of Earth. There is of course likely to be a temporary period of adjustment of Earth's electrical systems, but this is only expected to last a few hours time. It will not be problematic. If there are any difficulties at all, the biospheres of the Andromeda Council stand ready to help and will help.

The 23.5 degree off-axis tilt of the Earth that presently exists should be corrected as well, and will be no longer. This will mean a much more temperate climate for planet Earth overall. Think of the whole planet as having a climate much like that of the Mediterranean region.

Yes, planet Earth will likely go through continued dramatic changes to get to this new higher vibrational existence. And these events as life changing they will be to both humans and all life on the planet... these changes are normal and necessary for this process. It is transformation. It is evolution.

During this overall time every living thing from the largest to the smallest will be offered the opportunity to change, to evolve, into 4D, fourth dimensional life.

Just like a woman's body changes, adjusts & expands, Earth too must go through her uncomfortable adjustments, her labor pains, and the momentary intense pain of child birth. her Earth too must adjust & prepare herself for this new beginning, for her new life as a 4th density world... a far more colorful, vibrant, & beautiful 4th dimensional world.

These earth changes are expected to settle down throughout remaining later part of 2013, and will begin the completion of this cycle by the end of October, winding down in December 2013.
Above text is from the Adromeda Conuncil website: http://www.andromedacouncil.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63ct3YsHrps&feature=g-all-u
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_251

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Permalink Reply by Otarpheus on January 7, 2013 at 6:00pm

You see, this is exactly why I hate these kind of forums and blogs. People simply cannot get passed their own egos. To busy judging others for theirs. These forums are "SUPPOSED" to be outlets for ideas, theories and possibilities. No one here is an expert so everyone's perspective should be respected, "EVEN" if you disagree! Negative and rude insults are simply childish and have no place here or anywhere else on this site. If you disagree then disagree, there is never a need to disrespect.

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Permalink Reply by Otarpheus on January 7, 2013 at 6:11pm

SO, what do "YOU" think is going on in the photos i posted?

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Permalink Reply by Ima Scending on January 7, 2013 at 4:30pm

Looks more like a UFP, Unidentified Flying Planet ;)

Its size compared to the sun would make that object many times larger than earth and I think that if such an object were to enter our solar system and refuel at the sun, we'd notice that immediately since the gravity of the entire solar system would shift and cause "hello Noah, long time no see" and I wouldn't dare to dream of how few of those ships it would take to deplete the sun of its fuel hence, killing every 3-dimensional creature we have in the solar system. ;)

I call "cross cultural misunderstanding" on that vid. The makers of that film and its current viewers aren't living in the same universe. ;)

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Permalink Reply by Ima Scending on January 8, 2013 at 11:25am

I can't find the supposed object in that vid. Where should I look? :)

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Permalink Reply by Pandora on January 7, 2013 at 9:06pm

Interesting theory, As a solar gazer I can't believe I missed this....:p

I am sure i would have noticed it ... no other sungazers have mentioned any differences like THAT. Other differences yes.

Like I said, interesting theory.

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Permalink Reply by Otarpheus on January 8, 2013 at 2:29pm

Well there is the theory that the large reflective screen may have been create using fine atomized metals and chemical. There is a video on youtube were a man and his wife in europe came out after a storm I believe and found translucent clumps of a gelatin like substance in their yard that say fell during the rain. We all know of chemtrail and how long they tend to stay suspended in the atmosphere. So, it is possible for a combination of continued spraying of several chemicals, metals and perhaphs other compounds( translucent of course) to build up and combine over time to produce an atmospheric aerial suspension that would produce a refelective screen like surface in the sky. If it is thin enough, atmospheric pressure would keep it suspended. Their are also several videos supporting this theory. One is of a cloud casting a shadow of itself upward in the sky, then all of a sudden a jet comes along spraying something from behind the cloud but between it and irs shadow. To resaturate that area of the sky, to hide the fact, we don't know, but suspicious none the less.

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Permalink Reply by Ima Scending on January 8, 2013 at 2:34pm

How do you keep the atomized metals from oxidizing immediately in the air then?

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Permalink Reply by Otarpheus on January 8, 2013 at 6:18pm

That's a good question. Once again these are theories on the internet. I have said before that no one on this site as far as I can tell is an expert in any of the fields we discuss. If we were we would to busy working in those fields for pay. However, from what I do know, oxidation would be a non-issue if the metal is atomized and combined with a chemical , especially if the chemical prevents oxidation. Remember, this a theory until proven to be or not to be the truth. What a therory does do is gives the thinker an opportunity to discover the "POSSIBILITIES" through observation and experiment. The problem on this site and many others is that most of us wants someone to come in and "GIVE" us the answer instead of "THINKING"! Just for the record, the one metal that I have heard was being use was atomized silver. Silver , I believe is or was once use in the fabrication of movie screens.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k30I9J6EX6c&list=PLE953B1A9C88D3F50

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Permalink Reply by Pandora on January 8, 2013 at 11:55pm

You're right I am no expert in that field, but I do solargaze, as do many people that I know personally who have been sungazing much longer than I have. The sun is still coming through and is not an LCD image. It would be rather difficult for life to be sustained without the sun's energy and anyone with High school level biology would know that, if they paid attention anyway. Interesting but not plausible.

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Permalink Reply by Otarpheus on January 9, 2013 at 12:32am

I agree that life would be impossible without the suns energy, however the theory doesnot negate the effct of the sun's energy only that it is behind a sreen that is composed of some unknown elements. Let's propose for a moment that it takes more than a high school education to figure this one out. Let's assume it was possible and plausible! Now, with that in mind, let's try to imagine how it could or would be done "IF" it were possible. I personnally take this position on all ideas and theories. We would be doing this site as members nor the world at large any good if we refuse to have and keep an open mind. Scientific breakthroughs are results of many minds pushing the boundaries of what is "POSSIBLE"

not pushing and challenging the limits of what is "NOT" possible. So, let's assume it is possible

what do you think it would take to create a reflective like sreen in the atmosphere that we could then project any image we wanted to on it and yet allow the sun's heat and life sustaining energy penetrate it? What if it is something like a mirror that reflects on one side but you can see through it from the other but the person on the reflective side can't see anything other than what is being reflected? Or what if, it has similar properties as the kind of tint advertisements where you see the advetisment during the day and appears to be solid but you can see through it from the other side because it has thousands of tiny little holes in it and no advert on that side. Now image this "SCREEN" being translucent and or gaseous or gelatin like. Now, I know these are extreme examples, but what if! What if the technology and operation of such elaborate tool is simply "BEYOND" our comprehension or current education, knowledge, imagination or insight! Again, just because you can't look it up in a book or look up at the sky with 20/20 vision does not make it impossible. So let's! Let's open a dialogue of "POSSIBILY" and get past what is impossible. Remember the world was "FLAT" not to long ago and we sure as hell couldn't escape our atmosphere to reach the moon. Oh , and look, damn we have rovers on"MARS". Nothing is impossible, no matter how limited a persons imagination maybe nor how large of an "EGO" they may have.One last thing, remember that you are assessing this idea based on you current knwoledge

(knowledge ) and understanding. That would be your first mistake!

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Permalink Reply by Ima Scending on January 9, 2013 at 12:20pm

"That's a good question. Once again these are theories on the internet."

I wouldn't dignify those texts with the description "theory". A theory must have some basis in reality to be able to be called a theory.
If it doesn't, it's "Fiction".

"I have said before that no one on this site as far as I can tell is an expert in any of the fields we discuss."

I've read far more chemistry than just high school and can tell you right now that what you're proposing is preposterous. ;)

"If we were we would to busy working in those fields for pay."

Don't use peoples choice of jobs as a measurement of their overall education. That can only lead to misunderstandings of disastrous proportions.

"However, from what I do know, oxidation would be a non-issue if the metal is atomized and combined with a chemical , especially if the chemical prevents oxidation."

Yea, but then you gotta disperse it in the air and also make it STAY in the air, and that's where it all fails since the only thing that can basically keep aluminium from oxidizing is to encapsulate the atoms in a carbon solution with oil. Carbon however, can't fly unless it's oxidized and still it'll need constand wind to stay in the air, and oil can't stay in the air at all unless the temperature is above a minimum of 80 degrees celsius (only works with hemp oil tho). No humans would be there to see it tho since we start dying from heat exhaustion at 45-50 degree celsius..

"Remember, this a theory until proven to be or not to be the truth."

This is not a theory. It's a STORY that have been allowed to bleed thru into the "real world" since its propellants didn't have enough education to be able to see how outlandish the STORY really are.. ;)

If you don¨'t wanna read chemistry before you go into these stories, at least study the art of chemical and biological warfare. Thru those you can get all the bearings on how aerosols can be used. ;)

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Permalink Reply by Ima Scending on January 9, 2013 at 12:38pm

And .. about the Youtube-vid you linked:

Reflections like that usually happens in coastal areas or if there's a big lake nearby. I live at the coast and see those cloud-shadow phenomena all the time.

Here's a lo-res picture I took 2006 of a contrail that cast a shadow of itself.