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  Jazmin November 27, 2009 at 3:15am

  The following article was transcribed verbatim from:
  THE JANE BURGERMEISTER WEBSITE http://www.theflucase/
  
  World Health Organization ‘Manufactured’ The Global Swine Flu Scare — Suspected Of Corruption
  
  Thursday, 26 November 2009 17:53
  
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  World Health Organization ‘Manufactured’ The Global Swine Flu Scare — Suspected Of Corruption
  
  Novye Izvestija
  November 26, 2009
  
  Translated from Russian by Infowars Ireland
  
  The Swine Flu Pandemic which Novye Izvestija has written about many times, may be the most ambitious scam and corruption of our time. In any case, the enormous commercial aspect of the “swine flu scare” is already evident.
  
  The same conclusion was reached by Danish journalists who expertly examined the links between the World Health Organization (WHO) and the world’s leading pharmaceutical companies, who gained wealth by selling drugs to counter the disease. It turns out, for example, that many scientists who sit on various committees of WHO, carefully concealed the fact that they receive money from the giant pharmaceutical companies of the world.
  
  According to the international investment bank JP Morgan, the pharmaceutical industry will make more than 7 Billion Euros this year on the sale of A/H1N1 vaccines. Leading western countries have ordered enough doses to vaccinate either their entire population (such as Australia) or one third (Germany and several other EU member States). Factories making the vaccines and pills are working around the clock, in four shift rotations, with a backlog of orders …they are not experiencing the global economic crisis as others might.
  
  For the first time in many years flu pandemic ‘panic’ has affected the EU. The vaccine has been produced without a sufficient number of clinical and laboratory tests.
  
  Is such a panic justified? a growing number of specialists are examining the issue by comparing the mortality statistics from the swine flu virus and it’s ‘conventional’ varieties, each Autumn they begin their march across the planet. So far, according to WHO, six thousand people have fallen victim to A/H1N1, while the average annual death rate during epidemics of ‘traditional’ varieties of flu reaches half a million.
  
  The main cause of the hysterical response to the swine flu epidemic, according to reporters from the Danish newspaper ‘Information’, is not because it is so dangerous, but because of a strong public relations campaign by experts from WHO. Some of them [WHO experts] are literally in the service of the vaccine manufacturers.
  
  “It is disturbing that many of the scientists who sit on various committees of WHO, are presented as ‘independent experts’, but they carefully conceal the fact that they receive money from pharmaceutical companies”, Professor of epidemiology, Tom Jefferson, who works at the Cochrane Center in Rome, told reporters.
  
  WHO announced the swine flu pandemic under pressure from a panel of advisers, headed by a Dutch doctor, Albert Ostenhaus, nicknamed ‘Dr. Flu’ (from the name ‘Tamiflu’) because he was active in promoting mass vaccination of the population through WHO and the Western media. Now the government of the Netherlands is conducting an emergency investigation into the activities of ‘Doctor Flu’, as it became known that he receives a salary from several vaccine manufacturing companies. Many other WHO advisers sit ‘on two chairs’ (conflict of interest) like Ostenhaus, and while dealing with the swine flu pandemic on behalf of WHO, they do not like to advertise that they are paid advisers to pharmaceutical giants Roche, RW Johnson, SmithKline and Beecham Glaxo Wellcome, who have received the lion’s share of orders for manufacturing of vaccines. The result of pressure from these experts was the resolution of WHO on 7th July this year, which called for an unprecedented campaign of mass vaccination.
  
  “The WHO is biased in their recommendations – says Professor Tom Jefferson. – Normal hygiene measures provide much greater effect than these little-studied vaccines, and at the same time WHO refers to the use of masks and hand-washing as a means to combat swine flu only twice in their documents. Vaccines and other medications are referred to 42 times!” Dr. Jefferson and several of his colleagues believe that paid advisers of the pharmaceutical companies should be removed from their positions and not allowed to give recommendations to the WHO, but the organization itself is in no hurry to carry out such a reform. WHO spokesperson, Gregory Hertl, commenting on the article in ‘Information’ (Danish newspaper) said it is impossible to deny the services of the world’s leading experts on the sole ground that they have a financial interest in the promotion of a strategy to combat various diseases.
  
  It should be noted that this is not the first year that ’scope for corruption’ in pharmacology has been the focus of the Western media. The New England Journal of Medicine published ‘The Whistleblower’ several years ago. In a series of articles the Whistleblower showed the inside life of the ‘medical mafia’. According to them, only 11-14% of pharmaceutical companies budgets are spent on research, but 36% of funds are spent on PR. Much of the money ends up in the pockets of doctors, scientists, and the accounts of various organizations working in health care.
  
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  Jazmin November 27, 2009 at 3:00am

  The following article was transcribed verbatim from:
  THE JANE BURGERMEISTER WEBSITE http://www.theflucase/
  
  Thursday, 26 November 2009 17:08
  
  News - Highlighted News
  
  Iowa's Announcement of Appearance of Virulent Swine Flu Virus Spells Trouble Ahead
  
  Iowa has recorded a spike in swine flu deaths at 21.
  
  Dr. Gregory Schmunk, Polk county's medical examiner, has said people are dying of symptoms similar to the kind reported in the Ukraine.
  
  "In the autopsy, what we're seeing is very heavy, wet hemorrhagic lungs, lungs with a lot of blood in them," said Schmunk.
  
  But where did this virulent virus come from all of a sudden?
  
  According to doctors in the western Ukraine, the sudden appearance of the virulent California H1N1 virus in western Ukraine could not be explained by natural processes.
  
  In an open letter, printed in the Ukraine media (a translation was published on this week on this website), doctors accused President Victor Yushchenko of genocide by means of the use of the introduction of an artificial virus for political gain.
  
  Can the appearance of the virus in Polk Country also be explained by natural processes?
  
  Or could this also be an artificial virus introduced by means of vaccinations and used to justify a government clampdown?
  
  It is not clear how many people who came down with the virulent swine flu in Polk County had previously taken the swine flu jab.
  
  Dr Gregory Schmunk does, however, encourage everyone to take the „swine flu“ jab as protection against this flu even though there is no proof that it is safe or efficacious while there is significant proof it causes damage, in the meantime.
  
  Will the US government now quickly move to lift the ban on the use of stockpilies of the dangerous adjuvants under the pretext of a pandemic emergency as people panic?
  
  Adrian Gibbs, Australian virologist, this week published futher evidence the swine flu virus is artificial, giving indirect support to the assertion of the Ukrainian doctors.
  
  Also, we know from documents that US researchers went to Alaska in 1995 to dig up the corpse of the victim of the Spanish Flu Pandemic, extract genetic material from the lung and reconstruct the virus in their lab. The team published updates on their progress in „Nature“ and other scientifc journals.
  
  The appearance of this artifical virus in western Ukraine was used as a pretext to generate panic and implement martial law, allege the doctors in their letter.
  
  Yushchenko moved quickly to suspend elections he was almost certain to lose, impose quarantines on nine zones and close some borders in coordination WHO.
  
  There have since been unconfirmed reports of mass deaths through forced vaccinations within those quarantine zones.
  
  For sure, isolating specific areas, cutting it off from supplies, and outside communications and then sending in special pandemic task forces to carry out forced vaccinations is an easier way of approaching the problem of killing large numbers of people than taking on the whole of a country at once.
  
  But would the Iowa authorities or the US government ever carry out any such a criminal plan as the Ukrainian?
  
  It is a fact President Barack Obama declared a national emergency over the swine flu pandemic on October 23rd, although the laws allowing forced quarantine and forced vaccination have yet to be activated.
  
  Pandemic drills have been reported.
  
  As in the Ukraine, the US government, however, needs a pretext to implement a drastic crackdown.
  
  The deaths from the virulent form of the swine flu reported in Iowa and North Carolinia could supply some of that pretext, though reports of more „infected“ areas can be „expected“ soon if adequate fear and confusion is to be generated.
  
  An Iowa quarantine order surfaced this summer revealing that the authorities there are prepared to crack down on people in a pandemic emergency.
  
  Failure to comply with this Quarantine Order can lead to arrests, fines, and imprisonment. Anyone suspected of even having contact with some with a pandemic flu can be quarantined indefinitely with very limited access to the outside world.
  
  The blank template of Iowa’s Facilty Quarnatine Order was developed with the help of the Center for Disease Control (CDC), which has published the document on its website.Together with FEMA and Homeland Security, the CDCis the main federal agency responsible for implementing a crack down in the event of a swine flu pandemic.
  
  This is just one of a raft of drastic measures that have been introduced at state and federal level allowing the US government to force vaccinate and quarnatine people.
  
  800 FEMA camps are reported to be in place in the USA ready to operate incinerators. FEMA trains are waiting on their tracks. Large quantities of plastic coffins have been reported.
  
  In short, the entire infrastructure of mass murder that was in place in Nazi Germany is in place in the USA today - and the banksters and Bilderbergers with their back to the wall are desperate to use it before they end up being prosecuted once the Audit the Fed Bill goes through.
  
  As in Nazi Germany, the US media just like the European media today, though, largely acts as propaganda instrument hiding the stark reality from people of.
  
  It is left to the independent media to warn people of the impending danger.
  
  The independent media and bloggers have to carry out the role of the horsemen who raced between towns carrying a lantern to light up the night during the First American Revolution to warn people the British were coming and so allowing them time to prepare to defend themselves.
  
  It sure looks like the "colonial British“ are determined to impose their will again but this time, they have turned up armed with vaccines and quarantine orders as well as guns.
  
  Just as during the First Revolution, they are finding plenty of people who will do their work for them on US soil.
  
  But the „British“ will not succeed any today than they did the first time if enough people stand up and fight back in this still undeclared biological war against the people, targetting children with especial cruelty and deceit.
  
  It is time to listen to see the warning signs and recognise we really are at war with the globalist banksters. They really do want to impose an autocratic UN/WHO government at our expense under a pandemic pretext. The time really has come for us to prepare for our defence in the US and Europe.
  
  How long until we hear the virulent swine flu virus has killed 27 people in Norway or Spain or Austria?
  
  Every single person has a role to play in this great battle between the power of lies and deceit and the truth. It could be YOU who makes the difference.
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  Jazmin November 24, 2009 at 3:09am

  The following by SHERRIE QUESTIONING ALL was transcribed verbatim from:
  http://ukraineplague.blogspot.com/2009/11/damage-control-being-done...
  
  Monday, November 23, 2009
  
  Damage Control Being Done In Iowa Due to News Report of Blood In Lungs!?
  11/23/09 1:20pm
  
  Don't you just love it, when damage control happens, because information got out, that others did not want out?
  
  Seems to me this article is doing just that. The covering over what the doctor in Iowa said to "what the facts are".
  
  Also, the article said much more too. They mention Ukraine and that "Earlier this year" test showed some mutation. Well, I hate to break it to this MSM outfit, but it was Not "earlier this year" (sounding like months ago) - it was just a couple of days ago and the full results of understanding what is happening there have not been completely released nor explained. Someone, now needs to ask them why them have not covered it, since they know about it?
  
  I guess if they did run stories on it, it would ruin the whole "get your vaccine" plans.
  
  Article in Iowa Independent:
  
  H1N1 deaths may be underreported, but not because of mutation
  
  Although a local medical examiner may be right that the number of deaths from the H1N1 influenza virus in Iowa is greater than official statistics would indicate, Iowans should not be concerned that this is because the virus has mutated as some rumors have suggested.
  
  Instead, the disparity is caused by deaths among patients who are never diagnosed with the virus.
  
  “We’ve known all along that there have been cases that have gone undiagnosed for a variety of reasons,” said Polly Carver-Kimm, public information officer for the Iowa Department of Public Health. “Sometimes people come into the emergency room or are admitted into the hospital and it is later determined, after their death and during an autopsy, that they had the H1N1 virus as a contributing factor.”
  
  State officials want to be clear, however, that these deaths are not a result of a virus mutation or attempts to cover-up the severity of the virus in the state, despite rumors to the contrary.
  
  Late last week, KCCI in Des Moines aired an interview with Dr. Gregory Schmunk, medical examiner for Polk County. Schmunk accurately stated that there are additional deaths in Iowa from H1N1 that were undiagnosed. During the report, Schmunk described the lungs he was seeing during autopsy as “very heavy, wet” and “with a lot of blood in them.”
  
  The report — especially the description of the lungs — has been circulating on the Internet since it aired and has fueled speculation that perhaps the H1N1 virus in Iowa had mutated. Earlier this year, according to analysis of genetic testing done by the World Health Organization, the virus in the Ukraine had mutated to a strain similar to that of the 1918 Spanish flu epidemic. In particular, the mutation, casually referred to as D225G, causes bleeding in the lungs and has been described as a decimating lung infection.
  
  Carver-Kimm said state examiners do not believe that any mutation has occurred in the H1N1 virus in Iowa.
  
  One Statement to the State Examiner, You did not actually explain what is causing the blood in the lungs - this article strictly went into a little circle - but does not actually explain anything.
  
  Thank you to Andrew for linking it to us.
  
  Posted by Sherrie Questioning All at 1:16 PM
  Labels: bleeding lungs, blood in the lungs, Iowa, MSM
  
  1 comments:
  
  Anonymous said...
  You are AWESOME! Thank you for getting all of this information out SO quickly. Keep it up. Listened to some of the interview last night. TONS of trailing over Portland, OREGON for weeks and weeks and weeks. So sick of it. Glad it's not worse...yet. Watching, watching watching,
  Blessings,
  CTR
  
  November 23, 2009 1:47 PM

  Damage Control Being Done In Iowa Due to News Report of Blood In Lungs!? 11/23/09 1:20pm

  Damage Control Being Done In Iowa Due to News Report of Blood In Lungs!? Don't you just love it, when damage control happens, because info...
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    Jazmin > Jazmin November 24, 2009 at 3:24am

    Please note: Yesterday, I posted the following article by SHERRIE QUESTIONING ALL to the discussion, "H1N1 'Super Flu' Plague in Ukraine...". The above article is a follow-up on the article below:
    
    The following was transcribed verbatim from:
    http://www.ukraineplague.blogspot.com/2009/11/autopsies-wet-hemorrh...
    
    Sunday, November 22, 2009
    
    Autopsies - Wet Hemorrhagic lungs with a lot of blood in them - You think that is Ukraine? NO - It is Iowa! 11/22/09 4:10pm
    
    Article:
    
    DES MOINES, Iowa -- Iowa has officially recorded 21 H1N1 deaths, including seven in Polk County alone. But the county's medical examiner said he has performed autopsies on some residents who were never diagnosed with H1N1, but actually had it.
    
    "In the autopsy, what we're seeing is very heavy, wet hemorrhagic lungs, lungs with a lot of blood in them," said Dr. Gregory Schmunk.He said the official count of seven H1N1 deaths is inaccurate, but patient rights laws prohibit him from giving specific numbers.
    
    He said there are two reasons for the discrepancy.
    First, not all sick patients get tests and second, the virus is difficult to detect. Some patients may be too sick to receive the most accurate H1N1 test."They're not always done and it can be hazardous to the patient if they're in a respiratory critical situation," Schmunk said.
    
    He also said that some tests reveal a false negative."Because of our limitations on testing, sometimes the tests aren't positive," he said. "They do appear to fit clinically the course of a H1N1 viral-type pneumonia."He said the cases he's seen in Polk County were all middle-aged adults with a few underlying health conditions."These may be the patients that are obese," Schmunk said. "Obesity restricts your ability to breathe and clear the virus from your upper respiratory."He also said that some of the patients had diabetes.
    
    Schmunk said his urging people to get the vaccine."The thing that concerns me the most is, you still have people out there they believe that if I get the vaccine, the shot, then I'm going to get the flu," he said. "You can't get the flu from the shot."
    
    He said that in the meantime, remember to wash your hands, sneeze into your sleeve and stay home if you're sick. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said one person who goes to work sick with the virus will infect 10 percent of his or her co-workers.
    
    I would like to know What the Hell is happening and HOW it is happening! I am getting pretty Pissed Off now! WHO, CDC, And the Governments of the World have GOT to come out with the TRUTH! ALSO WHERE THE HELL IS MAIN STREAM MEDIA - MSM? Why the Hell have they NOT said a WORD about this overall! This was a local news organization that reported this. NOW the MSM has GOT to start reporting and investigating WHAT is going on!
    
    UPDATE 11/22/09 6:30PM - Please see the following is under Comments from "Lori" she wrote the following:
    
    I live just NW of Des Moines about 45 miles. There have been low flowing helicopters over my town for the past week. I got woke up about 3 am this morning by a low flying plane, I wasn't able to see what it was when I looked out.
    
    UPDATE 11/22/09 4:45PM - Fred a reader, passed this information on to me -
    
    VERY ODD - that this mentions IOWA - dated from Sept. - as a Forced Quarantine state! Now they have bleeding lungs - coincidence? Any low flying planes there recently? Sorry, but the conspiracy side of me is coming out. I now say, since Florida is mentioned in this article too - watch for any news coming out of there with bleeding lung cases.
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      Jazmin > Jazmin November 24, 2009 at 3:54am

      Check this out:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb7kVkTnI3M&feature=player_embedded
      
      POLK COUNTY CORONER: WE'RE SEEING VERY HEAVY, WET HEMORRHAGIC BLOODY LUNGS (IOWA PNEUMONIC PLAGUE?)
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  Jazmin November 23, 2009 at 12:15am

  The following was transcribed verbatim from:
  http://www.zerohedge.com/article/cdc-h1n1-forced-quarantine-docs.html
  
  CDC H1N1 forced quarantine docs leak
  
  Submitted by Project Mayhem on 09/02/2009 06:46 -0500
  
  Last night Zero Hedge obtained some interesting documents from the CDC web site. They contain blank 'forced quarantine' orders from Iowa and Florida regarding novel H1N1 -- including quarantine to a 'secure detention center'-- which appear to be recent -- dated April 2009. Some may be aware the NIH and CDC just held an H1N1 conference in DC -- August 19-21 2009 -- that focused on 'mass fatality management'. For many, this should be cause for concern. As is becoming clear, our government is quite corrupt. The idea that this same government is now preparing for forced quarantine and mass vaccination should make anyone who has been following recent events shudder. There is something going on here, but governments have not come clean with the public. Why 'secure detention centers' in the U.S. and 'secure vaccination centers' in France if there is nothing to be concerned about? It is becoming increasingly clear that a global mass vaccination campaign is planned -- likely to become mandatory in the 193 WHO member countries, despite serious safety concerns regarding these untested novel H1N1 vaccines, some of which are now known to contain high levels of the deadly adjuvent squalene.
  
  Others may be aware that it was only last week that the Massachusetts State Senate passed a law making it a relatively serious crime to refuse a mandatory vaccination or to break a quarantine order. This law also includes rather astounding violations of the 4th Amendment, including warrantless searches and seizures of property if deemed necessary in an 'emergency'. This new Massachusetts law also included authorizations for illegal arrest without a warrant and of forced vaccination of the public. But the political activity is not limited to the states. Yesterday Obama held meetings with senior cabinet officials regarding H1N1 'pandemic prepardness' including HHS Secretary Sebelius. So this is not idle speculation. There is something going on here. Either the government knows something we do not, or this is the biggest hype since the dot com bubble.
  
  Although the current H1N1 virus does not have lethal genes yet, we have been implicitly promised by the national and global health authorities that novel H1N1 will soon return with such genetic 'upgrades', just as it did in 1918. Here at ZeroHedge, we are expecting a flock of economic black swans soon, and a pandemic -- whether real or hyped -- may be part of this flock. An economic collapse will be no doubt be triggered soon , and it will be convenient for the political elites to blame the collapse on an external factor, such as a pandemic or a war. Furthermore, the fall H1N1 pandemic may be a convenient pretext by which dangerous levels of expanding social control can be established by elites which have proven themselves utterly corrupt and morally bankrupt.
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  Jazmin November 21, 2009 at 10:32pm

  Transcribed verbatim from THE JANE BURGERMEISTER WEBSITE: http://www.theflucase.com/
  
  WHY HAVE 170,000 DOSES OF SWINE FLU VACCINE BEEN WITHDRAWN IN CANADA? Michel Chossudovsky reports on the killer vaccine
  
  Saturday, 21 November 2009 20:35
  
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  Canada: The Killer H1N1 Vaccine
  
  By Michel Chossudovsky
  
  URL of this article: www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16192
  
  Global Research, November 20, 2009
  
  "It is a serious thing [vaccine] that has the potential to kill" according to Dr. Neil Rau, an infectious disease expert, in a CTV interview, but do not worry: "leading experts insist, the benefits of the H1N1 vaccine vastly outweigh the risks" (Swine Flu Support Center, emphasis added)
  
  A new development in the H1N1 Vaccine Saga is unfolding in Canada. Whereas health officials are pushing for an acceleration of the vaccination program, there is evidence of so-called "unusual adverse reactions" including three recently recorded deaths directly resulting from the vaccine.
  
  In the meantime, health authorities have called for the withdrawal of 170,000 (higher risk) doses of the vaccine produced by GlaxoSmithKline. The initiative, of which the importance is being downplayed, is said to have come from the manufacturer GlaxoSmithKline, which expressed concern on higher than normal adverse reactions to the vaccine.
  
  "Canada's H1N1 flu vaccine manufacturer has asked the provinces to temporarily discontinue vaccinating Canadians from a lot of vaccine shipped in October due to a higher risk of adverse reactions, says a Manitoba health official.
  
  Dr. Joel Kettner, Manitoba's chief public health officer, said Thursday that GlaxoSmithKline has asked that the October batch be taken out of circulation because it produced serious and immediate anaphylactic reactions in one out of 20,000 vaccinations, compared with one out of 100,000 in other shipments.
  
  "We've been asked by the manufacturer GSK to not use this vaccine at this time pending further investigation," he said. (Winnipeg Free Press, 20 November 2009)
  
  The government is involved in a cover-up. The initial headlines stated "more than 100,000 doses", but then read on, the number is 170,000 doses.
  
  The CTV report admits that "it is a serious thing, it has the potential to kill".
  
  Too Late to Withdraw the 170,000 Defective Doses
  
  The question is whether the doses can be withdrawn or whether they have already been used. The first news reports from Manitoba indicate that:
  
  Of the 63,000 doses shipped [to Manitoba], only 630 remained unused by the four regional health authorities in Manitoba that received them. (Ibid)
  
  This report would suggest that the risky GSK vaccine doses have already been used.
  
  A subsequent report confirms that out of the 63,000 doses, 900 unused doses of the H1N1 were withdrawn by health authorities "after health authorities received word other vaccines from the same batch have been causing higher rates of allergic reactions than expected." (Flu vaccine batch pulled in Manitoba, Winnipeg Sun, 20 November 2009).
  
  The question is what happened to remaining 62,100 doses of the higher risk vaccine batch, which were used to vaccinate people in Manitoba?
  
  Has there been a followup regarding those people in Manitoba who received the higher risk H1N1 vaccine injection.
  
  Manitoba Health authorities casually confirm, in this regard, that "most of the vaccine Manitoba received from the suspect lot had already been used by the time the province received the alert on Wednesday" [November 18, 2009]. (Winnipeg Free Press, 20 November 2009, emphasis added)
  
  Manitoba and Quebec : Three deaths resulting from the H1N1 Vaccine
  
  The news reports have highlighted deaths allegedly resulting from the H1N1 flu, while obfuscating several recorded deaths resulting directly from the vaccine. These vaccine related deaths are occurring at the very outset of the vaccination program,
  
  According to CTV News, 20 November 2009) "The province is currently investigating two deaths -- both adults who died within seven days of getting the H1N1 shot" (Family questions if H1N1 shot caused Manitoba woman's death, November 20, 2009, emphasis added).
  
  Manitoba officials acknowledge 69 "adverse events" after people received the swine flu shot, including the two deaths. (CBC.ca report, 17 November 2009)
  
  However, unless the families speak out, the authorities will not provide details. CTV interviewed the family of one of the victims. No details on the other death in Manitoba are available:
  
  "The family of a 38-year-old Manitoba woman who died five days after receiving the H1N1 vaccine are looking for answers as to why it happened.
  
  Soo Lee Wong and her daughter, Angela Truong, both got the H1N1 shot on November 5th.
  
  The family says Wong, who had diabetes, started getting sick a day after getting vaccinated and died a few days later.
  
  Doctors told the family Wong died of a blood infection. More tests will be done to see if the vaccine played any role.
  
  Wong's husband, Thoon Truong, is also caring for his seven-year-old daughter Angela, who has been in the hospital with a fever and swollen, painful legs.
  
  He wants to know whether the two cases related to the vaccine or to something else.
  
  The province is currently investigating two deaths -- both adults who died within seven days of getting the H1N1 shot.
  
  Although it's still early, Manitoba's chief medical officer of health Dr. Joel Kettner says immunizations were not likely the cause of the deaths. CTV News | Family questions if H1N1 shot caused Manitoba woman's death, November 20, 2009)
  
  It should be noted that these two deaths in Manitoba may have been associated with the injection of the higher risk H1N1 vaccine doses, which health authorities had called for withdrawal.
  
  Quebec: One Death
  
  An 80-year-old Quebec man was reported dead after taking the H1N1 Swine Flu vaccination. Health officials have dismissed the case, "stating that it's too soon to link the death and vaccine." Quebec man dies after taking H1N1 vaccine, Digital Journal, 18 November 2009).
  
  The Quebec health authorities have refused to provide details:
  
  "Quebec's Director of Public Health Protection, Dr. Horacio Arruda, did not know why the man took the vaccine and that final test results, which are expected to come in December, will determine whether or not the man died from the vaccine.
  
  Canada.com reports the man died in the last three weeks but provincial officials declined to reveal details, citing confidentiality concerns. Arruda has said that most allergic reactions occur right away, which is the reason why many patients are asked to stay in the centers, “We can't say there is a causal association between the death and the flu shot.”
  
  Nevertheless, Arruda is confident that the death will not discourage people from taking the vaccine but urged that serious reactions to the H1N1 shot are rare, “I understand that everyone is worried.”" (Quebec man dies after taking H1N1 vaccine, Digital Journal, 18 November 2009)
  
  The statements by senior health officials are notoriously ambiguous: while they concur that: "there is no evidence the vaccine is dangerous.", they nonetheless acknowledge the deaths resulting from the vaccine (Statement of Quebec's Director of Public Health Protection, Dr. Horacio Arruda, (The Canadian Press: Quebec health officials investigating possible death from H1N1 vaccine. November 18, 2009).
  
  
  
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  Jazmin November 21, 2009 at 9:30pm

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  Norway's police crack down on "alternative medicine" as scare mongering over "new mutated" virus grows
  
  Saturday, 21 November 2009 13:58
  
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  As the hype and fear mongering grows in Norway over the emergence of a new mutated "killer" virus, the local media has reported that police have carried out coordinated raids to crack down on suppliers of alternative medicine.
  
  It is not clear why "alternative" medicines, including vitamins and colloidal silver, which have been proven to offer safe, effective and inexpensive ways of protection against any virus, are being subjected to restrictions in Norway right now if there really is a killer virus about.
  
  It would appear the government is trying to limit Norwegians choice for treating this "mutated virus" to a toxic and untested swine flu jab that will offer no protection against any mutated virus and that contains mercury and squalene and so will most likely cause damage.
  
  NASA, the US space agency, recommends colloidal silver for its astronauts because it has been found to be one of the most effective ways of killing disease-creating organisms of any kind.
  
  Boosting vitamin C and D levels will strengthen the immune system.

  http://www.theflucase.com/
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  Jazmin November 20, 2009 at 12:27am

  The following was transcribed verbatim from Sherrie Questioning All:
  http://ukraineplague.blogspot.com/
  
  Thursday, November 19, 2009
  
  Messages From Inside Ukraine - What is Really Going On - 11/19/09 3:10pm
  
  I have been reading all the messages possible on Ukraine boards/forums - here are a few of them, they seem to tell the REAL situation in the Ukraine, that we can not get otherwise. Again, I will not link this site, as I do not want it to be taken down for any reason.
  
  The first message is of great interest to me, I could not find more information about it in some searches. I would like those who may be reading this and is more informed in this area to give their opinion on if it makes sense or is possible.
  
  Knowing this, could help lots of people if true - then no need for the $300+ Tamiflu shot.
  
  Messages:
  
  In South Korea found a new way to fight the epidemic "new" influenza H1N1.
  
  Ученые из корейских университетов Аджу (Ajou University) и Йонсей (Yonsei University) пришли к выводу, что одним из самых эффективных в борьбе с вирусом H1N1 средством является озонированная вода с добавлением небольшого количества соляной кислоты. Scientists from Korean universities Ajou (Ajou University) and Yonsei University (Yonsei University) came to the conclusion that one of the most effective in combating the H1N1 virus tool is ozonized water with the addition of small amounts of hydrochloric acid. Данные проведенных ими исследований гласят, что заряженные ионы хлора деактивируют вирус, а вода полностью вымывает его из организма. These outcomes of their research state that ions of chlorine will deactivate the virus, and the water washes away completely from his body. В процессе нескольких экспериментов было взято 430 тысяч вирусных тел H1N1, и все они погибли через пять минут после контакта с озонированной кислотной водой (acidic ozone water). In the course of several experiments was taken 430 thousand phone virus H1N1, and they all died within five minutes after contact with acid ozonized water (acidic ozone water).
  
  По мнению исследователей, на одну тонну воды необходимо всего лишь 22 грамма концентрированной соляной кислоты, и этого объема вполне достаточно для того, чтобы в получившейся жидкости образовалось достаточное количество заряженных ионов хлора, которые быстро уничтожат вирус. According to researchers, one ton of water to only 22 grams of concentrated hydrochloric acid, and this amount is sufficient to ensure that in the resulting liquid formed a sufficient number of charged chloride ions, which rapidly destroy the virus. Помимо этого, получившая кислотная среда прекрасно подойдет для дезинфекции организма. In addition, received the acid environment perfect for disinfection of the organism.
  
  «Затраты, требующиеся для изготовления данного средства, ничтожно малы по сравнению с созданием вакцины, — рассказали авторы исследования, Квонг Ли (Kwang Lee) и Хан Ум (Han Uhm) на страницах авторитетного научного издания Applied Physics Letters. "The costs required for manufacturing the funds are negligible compared with the creation of a vaccine - have told the authors of the study, Kwong Lee (Kwang Lee) and Khan Um (Han Uhm) in the pages of authoritative scientific publications Applied Physics Letters. — Более того, озонированную кислотную воду можно производить в промышленных объемах, в корне изменив ситуацию с распространением вируса H1N1 во всем мире». - Moreover, ozonized acidic water can be produced on an industrial scale, fundamentally changing the situation with the spread of the H1N1 virus around the world. "
  
  **Note - I have searched under Applied Physics - South Korea - Swine flu - I can not come up with the information that is stated above. So, would this work in others opinions?**
  ___________________________________________________________________
  UPDATE - 11/19/09 4:45PM - Link to Information the message above talks about - Thank you to the Person Who Linked it in Comments - Who ever you are!!
  http://www.physorg.com/news176991361.html
  
  ANOTHER UPDATE REGARDING ABOVE INFORMATION - 11/19/09 5:00PM
  
  When I read the information at the link - the main thing I realized it spoke about was Acid - that got me thinking.... Have you ever heard of Kombucha Tea? I drink it morning and night - you can make it yourself - I just researched and Found it DOES KILL Viruses! Kombucha is considered a "miracle tea" it cures cancer besides almost everything else - it has worked miracles for me and now I realize, when others have had colds/flu and gotten very sick around me - I DO NOT! I Drink Kombucha! Don't buy it in a store, get the mushroom and make it yourself - inexpensive. I will do a post about it all tomorrow. When I gather good links etc. to go to.
  Please be sure to see comments - good information there too!
  __________________________________________________________________
  
  My aunt. Работа - модуль на рынке. Work - a module on the market.
  Вторник 10.11 - высокая температура, скорая сбила температуру и предложила вызвать участкового врача. Tuesday 10.11 - high temperature, ambulance brought down the temperature and invited to call a GP. Участковый сразу направление в больницу выписал, скорая забрала. The policeman immediately sent for referral to hospital, ambulance picked. Чем лечили не знаю. What is treated not know. Предлагали темифлю 700-800 грн один укол а надо три как я понял. They offered temiflyu 700-800 UAH one shot and have three as I understood. Денег у родственников нет и постеснялись занять... Money from relatives do not hesitate and take ... Сейчас второй день в реанимации, сама не дышит, за реанимацию 3000 грн в сутки и шансов дают 10%. Now the second day in intensive care, she was not breathing, for resuscitation 3000 UAH per day and give 10% chance. Разве это не похоже на описание свиного гриппа? Is this not similar to the description of swine flu? Эти подходы оценила Европа в борьбе правительства с эпидемией! These approaches are evaluated in Europe against the government to the epidemic!
  
  Father is sick the second day. все признаки гриппа, сильная усталость, слабость, тошнота. all the signs of influenza, severe fatigue, weakness, nausea. нигде в городе не поставили диагноз и не взяли анализов. anywhere in the city is not diagnosed and did not take tests. сейчас поедем евролаб. Now go Eurolab.
  как можно так относится к людям? how can you apply to people?
  почему врачи отказываются ставить диагноз пациентам? why doctors refuse to diagnose patients?
  
  Yesterday was talking with a doctor, buyout deals and a physician lecheshim nekoryh policy, goes to various conferences, and so I trust her knowledge, poezhtomu yesterday to ask her about the situation with influenza in our country. Она мне ответила, что люди, котрые думают о том , что ситуация сильно раздута, глупоко ошибаются, информация не поступает в народ в нужном объеме, как это должно быть, от людей скрывают правду, реальную правду и смертность в регионах она мне назвала значительно выше той,которую мы слышим по ТВ.Сказала нивкоем случае не прекращать носить маски, прежде всего задуматься о себе и о своей семье, нежели о том, что о Вас подумают окружающие люди, которые расслабились и ходят уже без масок. She replied to me that people think about the buyout that the situation has greatly inflated, glupoko mistaken, the information did not reach the people in the right quantities, as it should be from people who hide the truth, real truth, and mortality in the region, she called me is considerably higher that which we hear on TV.Skazala nivkoem if not to stop the wearing of masks, especially to think about yourself and your family than that of the people around you think that walking is relaxed and without masks. Сейчас врачи молчат, те врачи кому не разрещают выносит правды в народ. Now doctors are silent, those doctors who do not razreschayut makes the truth in people. На самом деле все серьездно(привела, пример с Чернобылем и то когда до народа была донесена правда). In fact, all serezdno (led, the example of Chernobyl, and then when people had to indicate this is true). Вторая волна будет еще сильнее, после того когда закончится карантин( опять же власти будут давать народу инфу не в полном масштабе, чтобы не поднимать панику.Категорически против она была настроена вакцинации, особенно маленьких деток.В данный период она не советует вакцинироваться,еще одна вишка на чем наживутся политики. Мало того что у всех ослаблен иммунитет в связи с осенним периодом, так он еще и подорван у нас давно в связи с Чернобылем.Вакцина очень тяжело переноситься и не известно как наш организм отреагирует на данную вакцин( ПОВТОРЮСЬ ЭТО БЫЛИ ЕЕ СЛОВА).А в состав вакцины входит ртуть, вы знали? Дело конечно каждого на счет вакцинации, но для себя я выбор уже сделала The second wave will be even stronger after that, when completed quarantine (again, the authorities will give the people Join not in full scale so as not to raise paniku.Kategoricheski against it was set up vaccination, especially for young detok.V this period, she does not advise vaccinated, another Visca on what nazhivutsya policies. Not only are all weakened immunity in connection with the autumn period, so it also undermined our long time in connection with Chernobylem.Vaktsina very distressing and does not know how our bodies react to this vaccine (Repeat BEEN Her words). And in the vaccine composition includes mercury, you know? "It certainly at the expense of each vaccination, but for myself I have already made a choice
  
  And that is not the "Berea" or "disbelief".
  Грипп есть, причём не такой, как в прошлые годы, протекает тяжелее и длительнее даже у тех, кто раньше особо не болел, смертей намного больше и от всех скрывают эти цифры. Influenza is, not the same as in past years, more severe and prolonged, even those who had not particularly ill, many more deaths and hide from all these figures. Правда лишь в том, что политики стараются использовать эту ситуацию с пользой для себя, но пока не определились, что для них лучше: говорить о гриппе, или молчать, как они и приказали делать последнее время...Но проблема от этого не решается. The truth lies in the fact that politicians are trying to use this situation to the benefit of themselves, but have not decided yet what to them is better: to talk about the flu, or silent, as they are ordered to do last time ... But the problem is not solved by this.
  
  People are dying ... Как лечат, чем лечат??? How to treat than cure?? У моего закомого в один день умерла мама 57 лет, и невестка 23 года. My Zach one day my mother died aged 57, and daughter for 23 years.
  
  
  
  Reliable information: from the Ministry of Health came to an official order to all physicians not to write diagonoz influenza, and pathologists (so as not to spoil the statistics) strict orders not to write the cause of death pneumonia. Любой другой диагноз. Any other diagnosis.
  
  
  I am familiar doctor told me that they gathered the chief doctor and instructed not to write diagnoses of influenza and pneumonia. Ни в коем случае. Never. Вот Вам и правда!.... Here's to you and the truth !....
  
  
  Our shop therapist confidentially said that they were forbidden under pain of dismissal diagnosis-influenza (write ARI, ARI). А ещё точно знаю, что с 15 ноября в реанимации нашего небольшого города лежат 8 человек с диагнозом бактериальная пневмония, но СЭС это отрицает. And just know that from November 15 in the resuscitation of our small town are 8 people with a diagnosis of bacterial pneumonia, but the SES is denied.
  Паники нет,но население должно быть информировано, по моему мнению. No panic, but people should be informed, in my opinion.
  
  Posted by Sherrie Questioning All at 2:44 PM
  Labels: deaths, forum, messages, swine flu, Ukraine
  
  
  9 comments:
  
  Anonymous said...
  This ozonated hydrochloric acid sounds kind off like MMS (miracle mineral solution) I am not to familiar with the science of it but MMS is a chlorine dioxide activated with citric acid. It is known to cure malaria, tb, HIV and all sorts of viral, bacterial, fungal, parasitic infections. It is also good for chelating heavy metals.
  I ordered some on the 9th of november when I hear of this outbreak. It is extremely cheap 20$ for a years supply. The product arrived a week later.
  
  Thanks for sharing the comments from the message boards.
  
  November 19, 2009 3:39 PM
  Sherrie Questioning All said...
  Can you provide a link for us to look at what you got? It might be nice to have on hand.
  
  Thanks
  
  November 19, 2009 3:52 PM
  Anonymous said...
  http://www.physorg.com/news176991361.html
  
  November 19, 2009 4:40 PM
  Sherrie Questioning All said...
  THANK YOU - I will post the Link!!
  
  November 19, 2009 4:43 PM
  Peter Louis said...
  Hey Sherrie
  
  Again, I've stumbled across another article saying that scientist are worried about the H5N1 virus mixing with the H1N1 virus. This one was written back in May, 2009.
  
  "Scientists are unsure how likely this possibility is, but note that the new swine flu strain - a never-before-seen mixture of pig, human and bird viruses - has shown itself to be especially adept at snatching evolutionarily advantageous genetic material from other flu viruses. "
  
  "Experts have long feared that bird flu could mutate into a form that spreads easily among people. The past three flu pandemics - the 1918 Spanish flu, the 1957-58 Asian flu and the Hong Kong flu of 1968-69 - were all linked to birds, though some scientists believe pigs also played a role in 1918."
  
  "This H1N1 hasn't been overblown. It's a puppy, it's an infant, and it's growing. This virus has got the whole human population in the world to breed in … it may become a wimp and disappear, or it may become nasty.
  Dr. Robert Webster, virologist"
  
  http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/08/health/main5001182.shtml
  
  I keep finding old articles saying that scientist fear a new pandemic flu virus will surface and that lots of research is being done.
  
  November 19, 2009 4:57 PM
  Anonymous said...
  Here is the MMS site with good info...
  
  htpp://www.mmshealthyforlife.com
  
  There are lots of other suppliers as well. You just need to do a search for miracle mineral solution.
  
  November 19, 2009 5:08 PM
  Anonymous said...
  I humbly suggest dluted hydrogen peroxide.
  
  I use this in my childrnes humidifier when they are sick. I dilute 35 percent H2O2 to 1 percent with distilled water as tap is loaded with chlorine and other reactive chemicals.
  
  The H2O2 does tow things. It kills and disinfects viruses and bacteria. Then, upon disinfection, breaks down into oxygen, which is very helpful to recovery.
  
  My son went to bed with a 99 fever and a cough two weeks ago. I was sure it was swine flu. Mixed up 64 ounces of the above solution in his humidifer and set it on full blast. I could taste the H2O2 in my mouth when I walked in a few hours later. However, in the morning my son had no fever or cough.
  
  THAT IS A FACT!
  
  November 19, 2009 6:38 PM
  Sherrie Questioning All said...
  I use hydrogen peroxide also!! I get the 35% Food Grade - Very important not to use over the counter stuff. Then dilute it. I used to drink a few drops in water, but I can't stand the taste. So I got a nose spray container and I use one drop in the 1 oz bottle and mist it in my nose all day - ADDS Oxygen to the body. Hydrogen peroxide has also been proven to CURE Cancer - and tons of other stuff!
  
  Thank you for commenting about hydrogen peroxide!
  
  November 19, 2009 6:53 PM
  sunryse said...
  So am I understanding this properly? The physicians are instructed to NOT write diagnosis as influenza or pnuemonia? Is that going to interrupt Tamiflu treatment for them? And what is that about 8 people having bacterial pnuemonia!?! Does that fit in with the pnuemonic plague suspicion?
  
  November 19, 2009 7:09 PM

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