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  Krishna Kalki July 12, 2021 at 2:11am

  Those who are screwing up planet earth will have no chance to go a screw up other planets ...the intention and motivation must be pukka or no chance all they can do is improve planet earth and if failing that they will find what they do to planet earth they do to themselves
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    Roaring Lovely > Krishna Kalki July 12, 2021 at 6:03am

    

    Should we not push all these 'screwers' to other planets so they may give us a break? Why should we care about other planets and neglect the earth? Why should we say: no evil person should enter planet x, but he should remain on earth? Please think carefully about your comment!
    
    Your comment is yet another 'heaven, earth hell' narrative but comming in the name of ETs an exoplanets! 'Other planets' are 'heaven' where 'the wicked cannot enter'. You are pedling the same religions using different words!
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    Roaring Lovely > Krishna Kalki July 12, 2021 at 5:59am

    Why do they have a chance to screw up the earth itself? There is, and there should be no condition to getting to other planets. If we send one 'bad' person to planet x, how will he screw up that planet by himself? And isn't that much fairer? To distribute 'bad' people throughout the universe (where perharps they may be rehabilitated) than to concentrate all of them on earth?
    
    Your comment appear reasonable but it may as well betray discrimination against planet earth, as a place to home wicked pple!!
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  Roaring Lovely July 11, 2021 at 7:40am

  

  Lets recap it so we may see the (non)sense. The story used to be that ET comes here via some advanced technology that is yet to be understood by humans. Good! So this is some nice blend between science, technology and spirituality. However another story slowly crept in and eventually took over. No, it isn't an advanced technology at all! It is pure magics. So such beings as Ashtar command etc are just the angels like those in the bible!! So all that these beings do, to be able to move to stars, is 'meditate', 'search within', 'feel some love', etc. So it reduced to yet another cults of Buddhisms, Christisnities etc. The 'stars' now are 'the heaven promise to those who comply', not a place to get there without any conditions ( like moving to Mt Everest), as long as you are able!!!
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  Roaring Lovely July 11, 2021 at 6:37am

  

  The earth is not a prison. The only thing preventing us from going to stars is ourselves, not ETs. We are not building spaceships because we don't understand the interstellar technology. We don't understand it because we don't want to! Scientists (and ironically, many new agers) are stuck to Einstein's theories, which forbids such travels. The 'new agers' on the other hand fears to think and to understand the universe!! They opt to beleive that ETs come to earth via magics that are 'beyond understanding'.
  
  So new agers are not into brainstorming the technologies that might take us to stars. Instead, they are waiting for the ETs themselves to hand them the technology in a silver plate! Sinse ETs are not doing that, they concoct all manner of theories to justify the ETs. Specifically, they condemn humans as unworthy for interstellar trips. The whole idea becomes just another religion! The 'heaven' now is 'the stars' where 'only the righteous can enter'. The earth is the hell, where 'sinners' are imprisoned!!
  
  Of course this is religion! Religion is all about saying 'there is some powerfull being up there who rewards or punish'. Then 'humans cannot make it on their own, but they can do it by obeying the patron up there who can effortlessly grant them anything'. So to get to stars, like 'heaven', don't try to build a spaceship, just 'obey god', 'pray' or 'meditate'. Then 'god' will whisk you to stars by waving a magic wand!!
  
  I can assure you that this will never happen! Before you believe that 'god' will take you to stars, try to get to Tokyo or Cairo by meditating, praying or 'obeying god'. Don't try to find a plane etc! Beleive that 'they are beyond understanding'. See if you will ever move to Cairo by magics. If you succeed, then you csn now believe that you can move that way all the way to stars!!
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    Krishna Kalki > Roaring Lovely July 11, 2021 at 11:47pm

    Here here what humans are claiming in small letters they got the technology from the ETs so now they are boating we have the technology to take ETs home ...but not that easy . .to go to another planet you got to have good intentions/motive, then have a match up frequency, vibration and energy of the residents of other planets or you won't get there because you will simply perish
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      Roaring Lovely > Krishna Kalki July 12, 2021 at 6:56am

      

      So 'sinners cannot go to heaven'! It is the usual story in religion! Why should we suppose such in interstellar travel? Why should we remove all science of it and make it a pure religion? (Comming, as usual, in the name of promoting values). We should promote values, yes, but I disagree that we should do that via some quasi-scientific alien and exoplanet theories as if 'getting to other planets' is now a 'heaven promise' to motivate us to 'leave a holy life' here on earth.
      
      Originaly, I liked the ET idea causr it introduces a scientific spin on it, ubsent in orthodox religions. So the explanation that an advanced technology (that we don't have yet) is required made more sense than saying an omnipotent being can whisk you at any time but choses not to cause 'he doesn't want sinners in heaven' because 'they will interfere with the joy there'!
      
      A muslim or a Christian will never tell you that you need first to stop sinning so you may enter a mosque or a church etc. This is now where they get it right! The 'sinners' get to the mosque the way they are and there they get converted! How else could you get to know God if you are not allowed to get near to 'the holy place'.
      
      Likewise if you have made other planets into 'sanctuaries of higher vibrations', then it make sense that these should more attract those of 'lower vibration' than the vice versa! Why? So the 'higher vibration' may help 'raise their vibration'. If you want to raise the tempersture of something cold, you take the cold thing to a hotter place, not the vice versa!
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  Roaring Lovely July 11, 2021 at 6:25am

  What sense does this make?Does everywhere in space belongs to every other ETs but never humans?