On Trolls

 

By William Mistele

 

http://shell.lava.net/~pagios/ontrolls.htm

 

On Trolls

 

Due to the recent gift of the internet to the human race from the spirits of the sphere of Uranus, the astral plane has grown closer to the physical world. As a result, there are side effects such as lower astral entities are now able to temporarily take possession of human beings. One such astral entity is the troll that comes in a variety of forms.

   The most familiar kind of Troll--the Pissing Troll-- is the one who enters a group such as a yahoo group with the sole purpose of evoking a strong emotional response from its members. The human being possessed by the troll astral entity does this usually by "dumping" unprocessed emotions on the group members.

  When challenged, the troll, often adept at rationalizing, will present persuasive and completely reasonable arguments that he has the best of intentions and is quite happy to fulfill the deepest purposes and ideals of the group. E.g., "It was never my intention to offend anyone with my innocent yet constructive comments."

  It is not the actual content of discussions that drives away other members of this group. It is the "smell" of unprocessed body fluids that the troll continuously exposes the group to, thus the name "Pissing Troll." However educated or adept with words this troll is, he remains simply a baby without diapers as he dumps on others endlessly without any capacity for self reflection. The perfect con--he believes himself to be innocent and is shocked that anyone would think otherwise.

  Though the Pissing Troll might appear as a seemingly innocent and naïve individual, his malice should not be underestimated.  In effect, it is as if a larvae from the astral plane that exists to feed off of others strong emotional responses had temporarily taken possession of a human being.  Attaching itself to the crown chakra of a human being, that individual’s conscience is in effect suspended.  It is no longer then possible to actually reason with this individual.

  It is not that he can not reason, but rather being generous or “kind” with such an individual hoping he can learn from your comments is like trying to heal a vampire by giving it some of your blood.  What the larvae/Pissing Troll does is that in any interaction his response, even when apologizing or stating his commitment to being positive, is to reframe others comments. He will put the others thoughts, intentions, or feelings one notch lower in value. 

  If you say to him, This is my experience, he may acknowledge your experience but suggest patiently or calmly that it is inadequate or missing something which he feels it should have to be adequate.  If you explain to him that certain things are for him to discover on his own, he will say that he could in fact do that but he wants to know right now if you can save him that effort by simply demonstrating to him what he feels you should be able to prove given all the work you have done. 

  In effect, whatever you do or say, he will imply in some what that it is inadequate.  His standards and experience are the final judge and not yours.  What makes this troll so nerve racking if you have not witnessed it before is that he believes himself to be totally sincere and innocent even as he is attacking your motives or experience in his next breath.  Like I say, his conscience is gone.

  You can cup your hands and fill them with water and watch the cute little blood sucker fish swim around. See how adorable it is. But it exists for one purpose—to suck your life force out of you and into itself.

   Unless you have seen negativity wrapped in innocence before, it is extremely hard to understand this troll because you keep wanting to help him and encourage him.  It is like spouse abuse or someone getting DUI’s, they are in denial. Until you have actually witnessed denial first hand, it is very hard to understand that someone can actually “believe” that they are innocent when they are not—fooling even themselves and so again surprised and shocked that you question their motives.

  On the other hand, there is nothing more enjoyable than a Pissing Troll if you are doing stand up comedy in a comedy club or leading a boring discussion group such as in an eight hour class meeting five days a week in the Navy. You pray to have a Pissing Troll in your class. Their incredibly creative sarcasm and negativity generates endless laughter.  One third of your group can’t believe that the individual is so negative. Another third does not understand what is happening. And the other third know exactly what is happening. The humor arises as the group members play off of each other’s reactions to the troll.

  Even more funny is that the Pissing Troll may enjoy and be surprised by all the attention he is receiving (remember-he doesn’t care if the responses are positive or negative) that he may inadvertently end up learning how to become a constructive group member.  Outside of controlled setting such as this, however, your Pissing Troll has the power to destroy group after group that he enters. Again, it is never precisely the words he says but the endless dumping of unprocessed emotions into the group (like a baby dumping poop) that creates the “smell” that the group stinks from all the bad energy.  People start leaving just because they can no longer stand the smell.        

     Other trolls are the Under the Bridge Troll. This troll or also called the Hazing Troll attaches itself to an on line group and simply charges a fee or else feeds on anyone new who tries to enter the group.

  For this troll, the group does not matter. It is the psychological boost of feeling free to attack, haze, or generally be mean to anyone new. The basic intent then is to gain an ego boost similar to "if I can make you feel bad, then I feel good" approach.

  A variation on the Troll Under the Bridge is the Troll as Gatekeeper. The Elite Troll Gatekeeper feels that now that the group has been formed, we the current members are very special and we really do not want newbies coming in and wasting our time. And there is the simple sense of anyone who feels privileged or "higher" in rank not wanting to be around those of lesser rank. In other words, a general snobiness.

 In one Half Life on line gaming community, for example, I am told an Ad Man simply banned any young kids with high pitched voices and also anyone who did not speak "good English"--no doubt a left over vestige of the British Empire.  

  It turned out that some parents who played Half Life were directing their six to nine year old children to play Half Life on line in place of hiring a baby sitter or having to baby sit them between the hours of 6 PM and 10 PM. Our sympathies to these poor Ad Man whose high throne has been debased in the role of baby sitter.

  Of course, as everyone already knows every monastery, ashram, and religious community on earth has its own equivalent of a Troll Gatekeeper. Christian colleges in effect relegate this duty to the Dean of Students as part of his job description--weed out those who "don't really fit in the way we would like them to fit in." This phenomenon has already been described exhaustively in the International Manual of Monastic Associations.

      The Saboteur Troll is more of a specialist. His motive is  competition and one upmanship. He enters a group like a mole and worms his way up the hierarchy of trusted leadership. But then he acts to destroy the group in various ways. Again in Half Life, one community of gamers may as moles enter another group with the sole purpose of becoming Ad Men or even gaining the service pass words. This allows him to shut down the group, steal group funds at will and transfer them to PayPal, or else to simply delete files so the group can no longer function.

 The worst kind of however remains the XO Troll--the executive officer who is second in command. Illustrated as in a monastery, ashram, martial art group, church, etc. where the "second in command" screens out or in effect clears away all complaints, legitimate questions, and actual needs of those in the organization. Anyone with integrity will object to this but the individual in charge is so grateful to have such a loyal underling that he gives his complete support to this abusive individual.

  Other trolls such as the Amway Ambush Troll are not actually trolls. Amway is of course a wonderful direct selling marketing system. It is the training seminars that produce not trolls but vampires. You will notice this when you get a call from someone who has just attended their seminar. It is "Let me bite you on the neck with my enthusiasm and you shall have my enthusiasm and sales success. In turn, all whom you bite with this bite of enthusiasm shall also be as successful and well motivated." But, like I say, that belongs to a different set of astral entities and centers on the problem in yoga called Vishnu's Knot in the heart chakra.   

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  • Interesting...  Here in America,  the republican political party = the trollublican party. 
  • are there female 'troll's' too ?

     

    • yes
    • Oh yes.  If you want to see some major troll action go over to disclose tv.com.  Those people are SHARKS.  One guy completely went off on me because I was upset over the female reporter who was gang raped in Egypt during the riots, he denied it happend at all, and chastised me for contributing my opinion that it was a horrible to have happen.  And some of the women there are just as bad, they don't have female names but you get to know them after awhile and realise they are manipulating the threads and they are female. 
  • Right on Flashstorm :)  

    We all have the capability to become better people, better humans, better in general, but for some reason people have to play their games... and try to be less than they can be.

    I'll definitely read this later... but it made me laugh, at first glance, because I've seen SO many people who act this way.

    ~Namaste~> :-)
    • This piece is nothing more than the observation of the activities of certain individuals/beings and the reactions to them. If a person covered in shit, breaks into your kitchen and proceeds to eat all your food and cause a mess, you can react in a number of ways. You can react with anger, kindness or indifference. However whatever your reaction, it does not change the fact that the person is messing up your kitchen and is eating your food, and you will have to deal with it in some way. Most would react badly. Thus the observation here is of trolls, their agenda and the reactions they elicit.

       

      I agree that the reaction of a person to such a being says a lot about that person and so the being acts as a kind of mirror. The person decides whether or not they are a victim. Nonetheless the activities of the being speak for themself in very specific terms, which are described above. As such negative entities, whether they be trolls, lower astral entities, demon lords, mafia thugs, dictators or corrupt corporations to name a few examples all have varying degrees of a negative agenda, which they execute in order to corrupt or pervert in some way to achieve an objective. This can be passive or agressive.

       

      Pretending they don't exist does nothing to prevent them from carrying out their agenda. Yes they are our teachers. They teach us that to attain freedom we must master both the negative and positive aspects of our psyche, but this learning curve can be steep. In other words there are beings who do have the ability to upset and cause serious damage to people and groups, either physically, emotionally, mentally or psychologically. They don't disappear when we put on our rose tinted glasses, and in some cases we need to make a supreme effort to be free of their influence. Identifying and understanding their behaviour goes someway towards learning to deal with them.

  • ha ha this is awesome.  Covers so many people I've met online and in other venues. 

    What about needy individuals who constantly complain, suck the life out of you with their endless chatter of their inadequacies....  you spend so much time reassuring them and comforting their feelings and then realise they actually don't care about you, and only want your comfort.  In fact, they don't actually want to feel better, they prefer the victim role and resist any change into higher self esteem or positive thinking. 

    Can you think of a term better than the Falsely Inadequate Troll? 

     

    • Verryyyy TRUE.... So True!!!
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