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  Axiom October 24, 2011 at 6:29am

  Alex Jones is loud and obnoxous<sp>, even still he does what few in media are willing to do ~ speak out. Democracy has proven that it does not work. We need a new form of government that has not been used yet. Our Galactic family has templates for us to model after. Occupy Wall Street is our feable attempt to say we have had enough of the lies. I use the word feeble because it is comparable to a hunger strike. It has little positive effect, save media attention. If you want to end the SYSTEM,  stop using it. remove your money from the banks, stop using your debit, credit, and line of credit moneys. stop paying your taxes.(which is a scam to begin with) stop going to work. turn OFF your TV, stop listening to the lies of CNN or HLN.  Simply put,  UNPLUG from the matrix. At some point we will be forsed to riot against a dark governing body that refuses to change, in order to protect ourselves. 
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  1loi1i9evzzvt October 22, 2011 at 6:15pm

  Part of that maybe true, but the topic of this thread was Alex Jones, not voting or to vote, and I don't think we have the right to tell anyone what to do, either way. It's there life, there choices in life. Those that don't Vote, won't know if there Vote would of mattered at all. That is all I have to say on this. 

  Bless the Nite,

  April 
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  John Jancar October 21, 2011 at 7:26pm

  You need to be worldly to effect change in world. You need to have an ego, to effect change in a world of ego, where you have to deal with those asleep, you keep coming at you, keep challenging you, keep ridiculing you. You have to be willing and able to defend your view, and prove that what you say is true. That's what it takes.

   

  I mean, look what happened to Icke, when he tried to be all love and light, on Wogan...remember that? People just laughed at him, and called him a crackpot. Then...look what happened when he became STRONG and POWERFUL! People started listening, and saying, ''David Icke, he was right!'' That's what it takes. Because unfortunately we live in a world where people don't admire love and light, as much as they admire power and strength. Ideally, love and power, masculine and feminine...should be balanced. One without the other is incomplete.

   

  This is John Jancar, over and out.
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    1loi1i9evzzvt > John Jancar October 21, 2011 at 8:03pm

    LoL, Over and Out? That is a new one John J lol :0) 

    Yes, there needs to be a point in time where you are able to defend yourself in this world, and stand up for what you believe in. At some point in life, we have to prove our point. I think we can have Ego at play in all of this, and we will never get away from Ego's in this world, because we all have it when it comes to debate issues, and standing in for what we believe in.

    However I think, when dealing with these things, we can have an understanding where the people are coming from, with there different views as well. I don't think we have to toss away our Compassion part, when we are trying to get our views across. There will be so many yet in the 3D, that will raise there arms up, and say no way, when we are trying to get others to listen.

    If we know though what is true in our hearts, and let the rest play out, and be thankful for the things we do have in life, then i think that can come across as well, when we are having debate issues.

    All depends on where the flow of the topic is taking us I guess.

    Oddly enough though, you also have to have confidence in yourself, in order to wake up those that are still asleep yet in this world. When you have enough Confidence in yourself, to know where you stand in on things, then that to will show when you speak about things that need to get out there.

    Your right though, we are living in a world today, where Love and Light is starting to fade out, and they want to see some Power coming in, where both Females and Males are in balanced with there energies strong enough to let that show.

    No one wants to see a bunch of females sitting somewhere quietly in a corner, now days :0) Well at least some don't want to see that lol. I might get into trouble for this one here lol :0)

    Bless the Nite,

    April 
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      John Jancar > 1loi1i9evzzvt October 24, 2011 at 3:02am

      And yes I agree, I would say that it takes strength to operate in this world. It takes will to do anything basically, I mean lets be real. You cant open a business, or paint a picture, or lift a barbell, without some willpower. Will is a part of the creative energy. So is love, of course, because its love that makes life come alive, its love that inspires you to create and do your thing, whatever it might be. I like to look at it like this, love is the inspirator, if thats even a word lol And power, or will...is the doer, that which you use to create your inspiration.

       

      And you need both, to create anything, good or bad. Love and power, are both so important. Love and power, make life come to life, manifests creativity into reality. I think if people understood these creative principals, we would be much further along in our development as a human race. We surely wouldnt have our power and love stifled by elites who want to see us all as low as possible.

       

       
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      John Jancar > 1loi1i9evzzvt October 24, 2011 at 2:52am

      Hi again, April, I think you're right, I also think that all of this talk about how we are in 3D....I mean, I think the majority of people here on this site are resonating at 4D and above. Anyone who is into spiritual things, and has an awareness of higher realities..and most importantly...can see their life, and the people in it, with a sense of unity..and a sense that these are spirits in physical form...I think are out of 3D already.

       

      People in 3D, I think...are those who still see people as merely the physical form, like some form of animal, instead of a spiritual being; are still greatly caught in time and space; and most importantly, see their life and the people in it, with a sense of separation and division...these are the ones still in 3D. If that makes sense lol Thats my awareness of it at least.

       

      So I would say the people here, though still clearly polarized and with ego, are not in 3D. As far as I know, polarity still exists until 5D and beyond. I would say I am vibrating at a mid 4D level. I have my moments of ego and polarity like the rest of us, but ultimately, I know we are the same, we are souls, life is spiritual in nature, God exists in everything. And most people here are that way too, I am sure. Its the people who have no acceptance of any of this, who are still caught in 3D. Thats my take on the whole dimensions idea, and I think its more about awareness and consciousness, than about frequency.

       

       
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  clearandlucid October 21, 2011 at 3:14pm

  I'm reading a lot of negativity about AJ here and I feel like I need to give him some credit.  I too do not resonate with him-anymore. AJ was instrumental though in waking me up to what was going on in our world, the corruption, deceit, mass murders(by us!) etc. That in turn led me on a path of reawakening my spirituality that for various reasons, had let go dormant for 5 years.  It led me here and to so many other places and of course to the path of ascension. I am disappointed in his show now, although it is still a great source of info for what is happening behind the msm news.  AJ is seriously stuck in his 3D life -BUT TRYING TO WAKE PEOPLE UP FROM THERE!  In all fairness it's a start for some people, myself included.  Yes, his ego is huge, he makes gobs of money(but who says we shouldn't?) and he admittedly doesn't go to the "feel good" place of manifesting our future.  He is stuck.  But he's stuck, in my opinion, doing something he feels is a service to the world. And in the world he lives in day in and day out a movement like #OWS is typically a front for some other agenda(there may be groups who have infiltrated it, right?).  So be it. It won't stop the movement. As a matter of fact it's been a great conversation piece with family and friends to speak my truth; first of the crimes of our politics(thank you AJ) and then a nice segue to NESARA and Ascension.  Not for everyone but for those that a conversation may never have happened otherwise. Thanks.  I obviously feel an affinity towards him and I wish him a grand reawakening. Love to All of you.  Our collective birthday is coming soon and I'm looking forward to the party! I'll meet you there......
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    John Jancar > clearandlucid October 21, 2011 at 7:19pm

    I'm with you, clearandlucid. It's been a similar path for me, with Alex. He was the first person, ever, to introduce me to the idea of the NWO, and 911 truth. And it rocked my world when I first learned of it, and soon after, I was led onto the ascension path. It was a stepping stone, and it serves as a stepping stone for many people. Alex has his role, and it's an important role, and you need to be the type of soul Alex is to be able to play that role!

     

    I mean, how many people here, would be willing..and able..to get your own radio show, talking about the NWO, ETs, and Ascension...and face mass ridicule, with massive amounts of people...like some here...who say you are full of it, or some disinfo agent. How many of you could stand the heat? I don't think too many, I think most of you would shrink and shrivel. But not Alex. He kept on keeping strong and because of his persistence, he has woken up more people to the NWO then any single person.
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  Delilah7777 October 21, 2011 at 12:53am

  Loved Bill Hicks, he was so awesome :)
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  Delilah7777 October 21, 2011 at 12:52am

  Its more like Rush Limbaugh = Alex Jones, just different flavors :)....