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  0akbftgduerej February 11, 2012 at 1:38am

  let us not forget the messages in here, "cannot live without god" " eternal life through god" and " god showed mercy" ahh yes god let him burn to death in a fire and then grants mercy, by his mercy alone are you alive.  this plants more of the "must have a lord over me watching me and making sure im good always" mentality

  its not the experience that is the problem it is the interpretation of the events and its purpose and meanign which get distorted by fatih
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    Sirgalahadwizard > 0akbftgduerej February 11, 2012 at 2:16am

    Yes its true he got burned up, but from his perspective it seems like he got Alot More in return because of what he learned and experienced.

    It makes the pain he suffered from the accident and the deformity of his body a small price to pay, to be Free from that darkness.

    He got something that you cant ever buy.
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  Sirgalahadwizard February 11, 2012 at 1:11am

  YEAP

  Sounds about right!

   

  Unlike these other religious quacks that claim they had a near death experience and went to hell and stuff, this guy's account is accurate to the letter.
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    0akbftgduerej > Sirgalahadwizard February 11, 2012 at 1:31am

    how do you verify the accuracy of a claim like this? seriously? even if you compare it to all other accounts its not like we can take cameras with us to recod what is there,

    so i think you would have been better to say this account matches well with other documented NDE's
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      Sirgalahadwizard > 0akbftgduerej February 11, 2012 at 2:14am

      Because his account of what happened almost perfectly reflects what I already know about the Spirit World.

      And because I have done Astral Projection before, which basically does the same thing without you having to die in the process.

      So ive basically experienced the exact same thing this guy has. Maybe not to the same degree of brilliance that he did, but ive felt the same kinds of things before. I feel those things sometimes even in my waking life.

       

      It is technically possible that he has just created a story based on metaphysical knowledge that he's researched, which would mean his account was not true but it doesn't change the fact that what he was describing is real.

       

      I think that You are in, what this man described, as the Darkness where you are cut off from the connection to God.

      That's why you need proof for everything, thats why you dont see it and you're skeptical. Its because you do not have the Connection and Knowing like the man described his own life to be like before he had this Initiation.

      You are in the darkness, you are dark. You don't know how bad off you are.

       

      Ill safely bet you also smoke, drink, maybe use drugs, and maybe chase after women trying to Fill this Hole inside you that you don't even know that you have. Either that or you're trying to fill that hole with some other kind of "worldly" thing.

      Because you don't have that Connection.
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        0akbftgduerej > Sirgalahadwizard February 11, 2012 at 2:46am

        wow way to judge lmao i thought for a second you might be someone who is above this shit, but you arent
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          Sirgalahadwizard > 0akbftgduerej February 11, 2012 at 2:56am

          Nope, just calling it as I see it.

          If you knew, you wouldn't be asking these questions. You wouldn't need to.

           

          Though the writing on the wall is that people who are in darkness cant be trusted either, because they are influenced and directed by that darkness.

          After all if you are isolated from God then who or what keeps you straight?

          A Moral Compass? who determines morality. Such a limited concept.

           

          Listen to that video again. What he's describing isn't some set of rules. Its an Energy. It just IS, it needs no explanation.
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            0akbftgduerej > Sirgalahadwizard February 11, 2012 at 4:05am

            once again i never said what I BELIEVE, i just asked how you know

            i dont need a god to be a good person

            i dont need a god to tell me not to kill harm or steal

            this isnt about me vs you, and thats what is so hard for many of you people to get here, this is about your belief vs the truth

            you can believe the sky will turn purple with pink polka dots every 5000th saturday if the sun went down between 5 and 6 pm. that doesnt mean it will

            please provide PROOFS to claims, proofs that are presentable, testimony is not proof

            and also who are you to judge? isnt that up to the god you worship and not you?

            there would be no debate about the existance of god if there was proof.  there wouldnt be thousands of years of wars and fighting about it if there was proof