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  Roaring Lovely September 26, 2015 at 8:14pm

  Hopi,
  
  "Your post is about "is truth that important",...and now you say to me that you actually meant knowledge"
  
  Who said this?? Knowledge are related to truth in that when we know that bla bla bla, it is true that bla bla bla. So the issue of knowledge is relevant in a forum about truth.
  
  "No one else got 3 replies from you and they all write something. But they wrote something that agreed with you..."
  
  ABSOLUTELY NOT!! Everyone here disagreed with me, beginning with Hellen who said truth is important in that it set you free, Mikail said that truth is important, same apply to Pahedron, Acute, Lisa and Sky. However, yours amused me. It was full of problems that I couldn't know where to start. I didn't mension all of them. I mensioned only the glaring ones. So you gotta be thankfull that I replied with only 3;-)
  
  "Every body here might think that you are smart and intelligent but I see you as an idiot"
  
  You yourself said that you don't reason and think and that everyone should not! You said you only use ur brain to copy other pples work. One wonders what problems you have with an idiot. I mean you seem to boast about being one!!!
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  Roaring Lovely September 26, 2015 at 6:30am

  Hopi,
  
  On a slightly different note, lets again consider, your statement that I am not 100% certain that the ball will fall cause I am looking for truth outside.
  
  Like I say, I look for KNOWLEDGE, not TRUTH outside and it is because whether or not a ball will fall is A POSTERIORI as opposed to A PRIORI. That one can know this without experience is a fat lie. I would have talked of being certain whether or not it will rain tommorrow. If you have some magical way of knowing so by 'looking in' then why don't you go help whether forecasters etc?
  
  "All what you have written is rubbish"
  
  It is not a surprise that you will conclude that. To understand someone, you must get to understand their usage of words and not use your own usage. We were not both taught by the same english teacher. You have entirely quoted me out of the context. You didn't try to understand what type of 'truth' I am talking of.
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    Hopi > Roaring Lovely September 26, 2015 at 7:04pm

    Your post is about "is truth that important"...and now you say to me that you actually ment knowledge instead? L...O...L...... And why do you say we and you to me? Is it me against all of you? Who is on your team? 

    "Lol! We say:
    
    1.) Without A PAIR OF BUTTOCKS, there will be no you sitting there.
    2.) Without REALITY there will be no you to sit there"

    You are one shallow and superficial philosopher. I go way, way, way deeper then this...The atoms in my ASS are the same atoms that are in your FACE, which makes you an assface :) That is a fact! hahaha, just jk...(not)...anywayz...I really would love to discuss it with you, but you  make no sense to me. It was a mistake by me to write on your post. I am sorry. I truly am...I wont delete it, But I will tell you that if I could take it back I would. You didn't deserve my energy...:) But now that I gave you my energy, I might as well go all in.

    You cant just define your own truth and say " I didn't talk about this truth, I was talking about knowledge and some other truth, wow, gee Hopi..you are confused since you are not agreeing with me"

    To understand someone, I must get to understand this and that and yapp yapp yapp, what??? Do I have to do all those things just to read a text? You wrote something with using the words you have used, and now you tell me that I have to figure out myself what you actually mean by them? ARE YOU A WOMAN???????!!!

    This has nothing to do with English teacher, it has to do with you, your mind is a monster. Everybody here might think that you are smart and intelligent, but I see you as an idiot, I say it with all honesty. I thought that was a good thing and everybody like it? Now you feel threatened by it? :) You got so annoyed by my honesty and the way I crapped on your post that you felt you had to write 3 posts in order to tell me that I am confused :) If you wrote me 3 replies where you actually made sense, I would take you more serious. But when you tell me that you use your buttocks to sit and without reality there wouldn't be any you...I just shake my head and think "I shouldn't have wrote to him"...I will never do it again :) I promise you this.

    No one else got 3 replies from you and they all wrote something. But they wrote something that agreed with you, your ego felt no threat....BUT, then came I....I am glad to be a threat to you. I am glad that I am that one guy you wrote about. it must be important to "defeat" me? :). You wrote a post with rubbish content, I reacted and replied to it with all my honesty, what is wrong with that? Why would you need to tell me I am confused? Yes I am confused, you are God. Do you feel better?

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  Roaring Lovely September 26, 2015 at 6:11am

  Hopi,
  
  "without truth, there will be no you to sit there"
  
  Lol! We say:
  
  1.) Without A PAIR OF BUTTOCKS, there will be no you sitting there.
  2.) Without REALITY there will be no you to sit there
  
  You confuse 'truth' with 'real'.
  
  "If everybody is experiences different truth for themselves than others, then that is not truth, it is just illusion"
  
  There is no such a dichotomy as truth vs illusion. Again, you confuse REAL with TRUTH.
  
  "The truth is changeless"
  
  You confuse FACT with TRUTH
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  Roaring Lovely September 26, 2015 at 5:57am

  Hopi,
  Yours was ammusing. Your exactly that guy I was talking of. In your disertation, you hopelessly dart between truth, facts knowledge and reality. You use a single word 'truth' to sweep through all these.
  
  'I cannot be certain that the ball will fall to the ground no matter how many experiments I have done in the past cause I am looking for the truth outside'
  
  Here, you confuse KNOWLEDGE with TRUTH. We don't realy look for truth. We look for KNOWLEDGE. When we have thus known that the ball felt, it become true to say that the ball felt.
  
  "Is it false that you are using life force to do your experiments, to be alife, to breath, to eat, to speculate?"
  
  That question is meaningless! Write, is it false TO SAY THAT,.... Then the answere would be yes or no depending on what you mean by 'life force'. Otherwise, youv already concluded THAT I AM USING LIFE FORCE. How can it possibly still be false? To 'that I am using life force', we assign a state of REALITY/ILLUSION, not truthfullness/falshood.
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  Stick September 26, 2015 at 12:36am

  The Truth does not require your belief...

  

  “You have to take seriously the notion that understanding the Universe is your responsibility, because the only understanding of the Universe that will be useful to you is your own understanding.” ~Terence McKenna
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  Hopi September 25, 2015 at 9:52pm

  Everything you have written about is "life on earth in a nutshell." It is life....the hunger to know and understand.No speculation is needed. Nothing is needed. No philosophy is good enough. Just live it. This is a truth in itself. Its surely not a lie? You are here, are you not? Life is happening for you, you are trying to understand it with your philosophy. But you are missing it, because you have prefixed ideas.

  Your uncertainty is because you are looking for truth outside of you. "For instance, we really can't be 100% sure that a stone will fall down no matter how many experiments we have done in the past!"

  You will never be certain when you look for it in the outside. Truth is not outside somewhere for you to find it based on experiments and experiences, experiments and experiences are different for all. Truth is not different. Truth is one, this can be undoubted. The fact that you are experimenting and experiencing, that is "truth in action." Is it false that you are using life force to do your experiments, to be alive, to breath, to eat, to speculate? Speculation is never needed when you take a step inside.

  The goalkeeper not knowing it will be goal or not, and then figuring it out by saving the ball or not, is not truth. It is a life experience. If the ball goes in or not does not matter a bit for you or me or the universe. Sure, it is a temporarily truth that arises there and then only relevant to that penalty situation. It will not be a truth worth taking with yourself to the grave...It shouldn't be defined as "truth"....truth is the most important. Without truth, there would be no you to sit here and speculate. Any other "truth" then the truth itself, like if the ball goes in or not...is rubbish...it is temporary. For example Everything that is temporary and changing is not truth in anyway, how can it be??? it is changing, it is only temporary..it changes..it is no longer the same. How can it be truth? But it is truth that everything changes! Truth is solid. Never changing. It will never be untrue that things will change. Things will always change. That is a truth! It needs no speculation. Just common sense. No philosophy. Just eyes to see it.

  That truth is different for everybody is rubbish. It is false. If everybody is experiencing a different truth for themselves then the other. It is not truth. It is just illusions. Truth is the same for all. There is no denying of this. Otherwise it can not be called truth. truth can't be questioned, it just simply is not possible. It is full absolute 100% truth. It is what it is. If it is not working, it is not truth. Truth always works. No disrespect to you, but you have simply written rubbish. I am just being honest from my point of view.
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  Roaring Lovely September 25, 2015 at 6:40am

  There are a set of concepts that can be confusing. I would recomend that one should not use them interchangeably. The more you use distinct words to mean distinct concepts, the better you express yourself.
  
  a)Truth
  b)Fact
  c)Real
  d)Correct
  e)Valid
  f)Honest
  
  Truth is contrasted with false, fact is contrasted with fiction, real is contrasted with fake etc
  
  We assign a state of truth to claims. "That there is UFO" is either the truth or it is false. "There being a UFO" is factual or ficticious. "The UFO" is either real or illusory.
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  Sky September 24, 2015 at 11:11pm

  ...Truth...Too Who??....You Mean Too You??...........Honesty.........Is One Thing.....Truth.....Is An Individual Thing.....So....??...
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    Acute Observer > Sky September 25, 2015 at 2:50am

    Honesty rules!

    Truth however, is static. ;)