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  Roaring Lovely April 25, 2016 at 12:56pm

  By definition, or rather idealy, science is not a religion. 'Religion' can be defined as:
  
  "A set of beleifs that attempts to connect humanity to spirituality"
  
  Science on the other hand is just objective knowledge.
  
  It is easy stated than done. A real coffee time is how do we obtain this objective knowledge. It is here where 'scientific method comes' in. Because scientific method is a method ultimately done by a fallible human being, science can never fail to have its own shortcommings. It is here where science can ultimately bear the hallmark of a religion.
  
  Science has realy never been done as simply observation and deductions. If it were so, indead it could stear away from religion. Modern scientist simply doesn't do that. He rather begines by making an hypothesis based on how he thinks the universe works!! This was clearly done by Darwin, Einstein, String theorists, Inflation theorists, Supersymmetry theorists etc. Our guy then DEDUCE the inevitable consequences of his theory, (which he calls it by a fancy name, 'prediction') then goes out to look for evidences that matches the prediction, phew!
  
  You gotta be able to smell from far that this method is 100% identical to 'religion'!! Our scientist is gonna use the prediction to INFERE that his otherwise unobservable factors are infact true. But what is the difference btwn this and a theory of god?? The example of unobservable factors are:
  
  i)The extreemly slow evolution
  ii)Field
  iii)wavefunction
  iv)fundamental particles
  v)curved spacetime
  vi)Dark matter
  vii)Fourth dimension
  viii)26 dimensions
  ix)Big bang
  x)Black holes
  xi)inflation
  
  the list is endles. Ergo in this sense science IS a religion!!
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  Roaring Lovely April 25, 2016 at 9:33am

  Darkstar 1,
  
  Thanks for understanding this subtle fact. Science have ended up claiming that they can chew buble gum and yet you smell croundnuts.
  
  "A scientific claim is not to be taken by faith but must be open to questioning and critizisism"
  
  But what does it mean to talk of a last man standing battle when only a single guy is allowed in the ring??
  
  TRUE SCIENCE
  
  It must train students to learn how to reason for themselves. To know how to seive sense from nonsense. Or in short, to become the true scientists that they are preaching about. But only the church, as in Jehovah witness, fear to bring the magazine of say the Seventh Day Adventist to their church. This unambiguously shove the chameleon of science squarely under the folder of religion.
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  1 darkstar April 25, 2016 at 6:57am

  Yes, science ITSELF is a religion.
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    Maniel > 1 darkstar April 25, 2016 at 11:29am

    Science isn't a religion; its using the power of observation, knowledge, intelligence and deduction, testing and experiment that follow certain protocol to way in all known factors to get the accurate understanding and conclusion. This is not what religion is or stands for. Religion explain cosmos through myth-truths that more often than not fall behind and become ludicrus when compared to what scientific understanding can tell us about the same thing from everything from creation of man to cosmos, to weather phenomena and natural disasters etc that in religions often were attributed to various demons, spirits and gods/E.T's etc.
    
    A truthful statement could be that there are few good scientist of the olden days in modern time, many bad scientist that can be bought for money to produce desired results, knowledge and truths to conform with a certain idea, view or agenda.
    
    Scientists - the good ones who can't be bought and cares about the actual truth more than their own ideas about what the truth is and should be, who thinks twice about playing god - never had the power in society and now today they are still reduced to servants for those who wishes to and do manifest reality (wealthy, elite, ruling class etc). Thus science has become "not science" but a tool to use faked science to establish false truths and knowledge, often to support an agenda of a corporation, powerful company or lobbyists etc. Bad scientists are for hire to the highest bidder today and that is the fall of civilisation imho. They don't even have their own ideas any more, they just want the dough the dark side can supply them with - for personal gain.