Spiritual Forum

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  john March 8, 2013 at 6:10pm

  Hello Krishna Kalki you are absolutely right about. John
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  Malechite March 8, 2013 at 2:05pm

  Again with the "difficult" and the "hard"?  We will return to the Spiritual World when it is our time but for now we are here and not there.  It is not about focusing on the attachments.  As we meditate, what we need will arrive or remain and what we no longer need will simply fall away.  Relax and Let It Be.  Love!
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    John Jancar > Malechite March 8, 2013 at 2:10pm

    Well why isn't this world spiritual. Why is the spiritual "there" and not "here". See, that's an illusion. Everything is spiritual in nature, even this world. The spiritual comes when you tap into it, and make it your reality. Then you make this world a little more spiritual, and bring it from "there" to "here." Don't they tell us...it's not about escaping Earth to go to Heaven, it's about bringing Heaven to Earth? Think about it.
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      Drekx Omega > John Jancar March 8, 2013 at 2:30pm

      Physicality is defined as an imperfect, yet potentially perfected reflection of spiritual will...It is actually a thoughtform created by sounding "the word"...the Logos...and for this galaxy, that is Lord Surea..

      The purpose of materiality, aka physicality, is to allow spirit the opportunity to usefully re-discover itself and grow evolutionary induced aptitudes of worth.....Officially, this planet is not a perfect reflection of spirit and you see, warfare, pollution, poverty, stupidity, fanaticism, disease, pain, suffering and physical death, to prove it..

       

      YET, there is always a potential for spirit to become totally present in materiality and thus render a mirror of itself in matter, that sparkles with light, too...the objective of spiritual evolution is the perfection of materiality..
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        John Jancar > Drekx Omega March 8, 2013 at 2:39pm

        You can always count on a Brit, to put the intellectual stamp on things lol That's a good explanation, thanks Omega.
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  John Jancar March 8, 2013 at 1:16pm

  My dad had that problem...he always wanted alot of money, a big house, a swimming pool, nice furnishings, nice cars. He would get angry at us, even beat us with belts...if we showed up to his house with dirty clothes, or holes in the socks. He would come to my moms house, and see how little we had, and get upset with her for not being a good mother. Other times, he would give us money and tell us to save it, and get upset if we went to buy candy or something. He defined others, and himself....by his possessions, his job, his money...to him, that's what made you a success in life.

  Finally, he got everything he wanted. He bought the big house...I go there from time to time, it's a big house, 3 floors...very nicely furnished, all the latest gadgets and trinkets. He got the swimming pool...he made alot of money, got a good job...he had everything that, in our society, would make you a success. The problem was though...he wasn't happy. All the material things he worked so hard for, in the end, he learned didn't fulfill him. He still had problems with his family, he didn't have a real good relationship with his kids...he still had people use him and try to take advantage of him...he had a good paying job, but he didn't really effect too much change in life, or make peoples lives better.

  So he realized....that's what makes you truly fulfilled. It's your relationships with other people. It's how much love you have from other people, and how much love you give. It's about doing things to help others and make their lives better. It's about...being a good person...and not conforming to the corrupt ways of the world, to get ahead. Because...what's the point of owning Babylon, if you sell your soul for it. He's learning that lesson...it took him most of his life, but he's learning.

  It's the spiritual side of life...the heart...your relationship with other beings, and with God...that's what truly fulfills you. Yes material things are important to live comfortable and have a more easier enjoyable life, you shouldn't forsake the physical. It's part of life, and it's just as spiritual as any other realm. But...it's your relationship with other beings..and with God..ultimately is what life is all about, and what we're here to learn.
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  John Jancar March 8, 2013 at 1:02pm

  You want to give up material attachment....do what I did...grow up poor lol You have no choice but to give it up then. We literally had next to nothing...we didn't have a computer, we didn't have good food, we had a small old TV with 2 channels....I didn't even have pants for the winter some years. When you have to do without like that....you realize what's really important.

  But...I don't think it's about giving up material things...or even liking material things. We live in a physical world, we need materials to survive, and have a pleasant life. Having material things, is part of abundance. It's part of the old energy to think having material things, and physical abundance...somehow makes you less spiritual. It doesn't. The problem is. people just define themselves by their material things, they feel like part of their self worth comes from how much they have. The trick is...can you still be you...and accept yourself...even if you have nothing.
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  Catherine March 8, 2013 at 12:41pm

  Hey peeps,

  Here is Cat's remedy for giving up all your possessions:

  1. Find a big greedy energy sucking vampire (partner in my case)

  2. Kid yourself that you are 'helping' them by letting them bleed you dry.

  3. Realise that they are a huge moron and get shot.

  4. Realise that in actual fact that not only are you happier without the moron but that you never needed the house, the money, the clothers, the jewellery or anything else.

  Oh, and try to lose your job so that you can spend your time with the people in life that actually matter. Your children, your family and your friends, who you could never see before because you spent all your time devoted to the moron and your job, so that you could 'make ends meet'.

  Alternatively, you could just gradually let these things fall away. This will work if you are not the kind of person who needs shocked out of the hell that they don't realise that they are living in ;)

  Cat xxx
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  John March 8, 2013 at 11:43am

  Some say that we hungarians coe to earth 70000 year s ago and that we have a ship under Hungary.Is this true?
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  Aurora Borealis March 8, 2013 at 11:36am

  Its nice to use memories of things that you miss. You will allways carry them with you, and just knowing that those things exist and that they are still out there can make it easier. Just use your mind to get over matter ;)