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    Roaring Lovely August 23, 2021 at 2:10pm

    

    Put it this way: there is no 'black man' or 'white man' at all!! These are gibberish concepts. They apply 'black' or 'white', to anyone they choose. Thus Obama is a 'black' man but thumtose 2 or Tutankhamun, both blacker than obama are 'white men'!!😉 the group together people of Africa, to the south of Sahara, and call them 'black pple', regardless of their color or their looks, and refuse to associate North Africans with them, regardless how black they may be, or how broad their nose might be, yes blacker than many in the south!! These nonsense. We should stop using these words!
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      Roaring Lovely > Roaring Lovely August 23, 2021 at 2:18pm

      

      Isaiah 18:2
      
      Isaiah describes how Cushites looked. But there is something curious: he never described their colour!! It shows how little important one's colour was at then!! It is like 'height' today, or even the size of the head!
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        Drekx Omega > Roaring Lovely August 23, 2021 at 2:37pm

        

        And you claim that the gods were "from Puntland," also...?? lol I wonder why the gods were never depicted as black Africans by any ancient culture...?? Neither Sumeria, Egypt, Babylonia, Minoans, Rome, nor Greece..
        
        I know you want the gods to be black and the people of those lands listed, as black Africans..BUT SORRY it's simply not the case...You have an obsession with this delusion that everyone springs from Africa and focus upon the importance of skin colour (to you, if not them)
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          Roaring Lovely > Drekx Omega August 23, 2021 at 3:29pm

          

          I never said that black pple are 'gods'. I said Egyptians said a land in the south is 'the land of gods'. In other words according to Egyptians, 'gods were in the land of black pple', meaning it cannot be the case that 'they were always killing each other' like this articles claim. I am not trying to elevate Africans. I am just trying to say 'they are like everyone'. They too have influenced and help other pple around the world 'build things up'.
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            Drekx Omega > Roaring Lovely August 23, 2021 at 3:44pm

            

            Well, African culture has indeed made contributions to humanity...I'm certainly not suggesting otherwise, but was simply trying to stick to facts about history...Of course recorded history...
            But I will turn this around upon you, here...Just being factual...;-)
            
            The other day you seemed to suggest that ancient Britons were a backward lot, compared to the Romans...?? Actually, the ancient Celts of Britannia had an accomplished cavalry, comprised of fine horses and chariots...Of course, they were finally defeated by Emperor Claudius, but were considered civilized and militarily accomplished, by the Romans..
            
            They were never backwards, as you indirectly inferred...Indeed, the "Isle of Tin" (Burr-atan-ac/Britain) was trading far a field, during the Bronze age...They had a trading hub in the city of Tyre....
            
            Indeed, they had a monopoly on tin mining...Cornwall. The ancient Israelites built their famous Temple of Solomon, using British tin, among many fine products...;-)
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              Roaring Lovely > Drekx Omega August 23, 2021 at 4:00pm

              

              Lol! I did exaggerate that, of course! But you have now done what I wanted you to do! Argue that just because Romans came to Britain and did some things here and there does not mean that we discredit Britons. Such is the reasoning I was more of suggesting than insisting 'Britons were backwords'. I don't think anyone was ever 'backwards'. God is omnipresent on earth.☺
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                Drekx Omega > Roaring Lovely August 23, 2021 at 5:44pm

                

                And that concludes our RL-DO discussion on this interesting topic, covering history, culture and pre-history...Thanks for this engaging discourse. Much passion and much knowledge expressed here. And I totally agree with you...God is omnipresent on Earth...I may add, beyond Earth too..
                
                Kind regards..Drekx 😄
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                  Roaring Lovely > Drekx Omega August 23, 2021 at 7:31pm

                  

                  Thanks alot! You helped me take this thread to exactly where I wanted it: a discussion about 'afro-asia' with some insight in the bible, so we may understand both better, by your very good way of challenging me☺
                  
                  Hope pple (and kk especiallty) have considered these 2 gates: suez canal and aden strait, and the way it could not be 'valves' that only allowed non-Africans into Africa and never Africans out of Africa, a kind of absurd notion many pple have!
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                    Roaring Lovely > Drekx Omega August 24, 2021 at 11:40am

                    

                    Exactly! Africa is where pple go and get rich, not the vice-versa! It has been so, throughout history. Pple (like kk) have an eronious view of Africa, and they miss great opportunities only for the smarter ones to go their and harvest lots. Those who leave an impact in Africa don't go their for charity. They go there to make money, and they do it, in win win deals. I will latter give few examples.
                    
                    But first, note that it isn't only raw materials that comes from Africa. One good example is the deal between sport-pesa and Everton team, enabled by 'mobile money' idea developed in Kenya. Everton has described the deal as the best, ever! It has made pple unbeleivably rich, and the money comes from Kenyans! Pple went and still go to Africa not to 'develope' it as if in charity way! This is a misconception! Charities are generally harmful in Africa as they kill local industries. Trump saw the problem with 'low priced stuffs' from China. Just ask how much more harm to US industries those stuffs from would be if they were free!! What if China donates cars to US, will these free cars compete with those manufactured in US?
                    
                    Pple don't go to Africa to take charity. They go there to make money, get ideas, get educated etc. Pple flocked to Timbuktu to receive enducation, not to 'develope Africa'. Africa thus helped the Arabic Empire get smart! Africa was the biggest, and the most important market for 'Islam', and hence a leverage for Arabic great success. At its peak, they (Africans) even went to spain during Europe's dark ages to reinstall education there. This plaid an important role in bringing Europe back to light! KK is ignorant of this, of course!
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                    Drekx Omega > Roaring Lovely August 24, 2021 at 10:14am

                    

                    I'm looking forward to more FAIR trade between African nations and the UK, now we have an independent (of the EU) negotiating policy and a seat on the WTO...African farmers were blocked by the European's CAP, but we in the UK are a free trading nation, not protectionist and will allow them into our markets, free of heavy tariffs...A win-win for Africa and the UK....I believe several bi-lateral trade deals have already been struck with Kenya, et al...😉