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  Drekx Omega September 24, 2022 at 7:32pm

  And now I'm sure there are some members who find my debates with Roaring about history, somewhat trying....I would like to offer another interlude for all to enjoy...But this time it's not music, but rather some excellent autumn forest walks........You will find this most relaxing and a real tonic, as if you had actually visited this beautful location, in person...😇🍂🍂🍂🍂🍂🍂🍂🍂🍂🍂🍂🍂🍂🍂🍂🍂🍂🍂🍂🍂🍂
  
  No politix, no history lessons, just nature...Relax and take it in......Use full screen and listen for the birds, too..🐦
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUZr9dVyHtQ
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  Drekx Omega September 24, 2022 at 7:29pm

  

  Well that was a few decades back, Roaring, old boy....We are now the 5th largest economy in the world and have less debt than America...or Japan, the country with which we butted heads in WW2, along with Germany and Italy..
  You seem to think that Iran and Afganistan are centres of excellence, when they are both absolute hellholes and nothing for you to be proud of....😆 And ask yourself this, if Afganistan and Iran are such wonderful exemplars of virtue, for you, why are so many people escaping from them, wanting to come to Britain, or America..??
  "I-RAN." lol 😆Poverty and tyranny, maybe..?? Frankly I would not visit these places if you paid me to....
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  Roaring Lovely September 24, 2022 at 7:18pm

  The brilliant idea of Talibanis was to take U.S. round and round for 20 years, forcing them to spend $16 trillion, till the grew bankrupt chasing them in the desert. Bankrupting the enemy is an excellent war tactic!
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  Roaring Lovely September 24, 2022 at 7:15pm

  Drekx said:
  
  "The German 3rd Reich lasted a paltry 12-years...
  And unlike Germany, Britain was never defeated in war......We just gave the empire up, at that time, because the war bankrupted our economy...."
  
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  Growing bankrupt by having to fight in a behemoth empire is an excellent example of defeat in the war! In fact it is even more humiliating as it shows the silliness of the idea or erecting such an 'empire' in the first place. Britain succeeded because it had more moneys. When the economic 'playing ground' was levelled, it became like any other poor country, withdrawing to its cocoon. It is nothing to be proud of at all!😆
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  Drekx Omega September 24, 2022 at 6:41pm

  Now let's return to the 21st century, with the battle between sovereign nations and the awful European Union, which is a modern day version of the Holy Roman Empire.....lol Now that is an empire I want to fall....
  
  "EU Bosses DEFUND Hungary For Not Surrendering To Globalism"
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXVQAKLTzlU
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  Drekx Omega September 24, 2022 at 6:22pm

  

  Soaring Roaring said: "British, though 'the largest empire' was also 'the fastest collapsing empire'. It didn't require a fighting."
  
  
  Drekx reply: Now, come on, you are exaggerating the history a lot...I would suggest that the British Empire, if you included the American colonies timeline, started in the early 17th century and lasted well into the 1960s, maybe up to Hong Kong 1997, but only fell, because it was bankrupted by WW2, fighting the Axis powers....Or if you want, it lasted centuries, say in comparison to the German Empire...The 2nd Reich was 1871-1918....The German 3rd Reich lasted a paltry 12-years...
  And unlike Germany, Britain was never defeated in war......We just gave the empire up, at that time, because the war bankrupted our economy....
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  Drekx Omega September 24, 2022 at 5:53pm

  

  India to us was a commercial asset and very lucrative for British commerce, but we also had a great love of this ancient civillisation and actually described it as an empire, within the Empire.....
  The INDIAN EMPIRE (or British RAJ) was part of the greater Empire and had a Viceroy and Emperor in London, known as King-Emperor....
  Although, that office was started by the Queen-Empress Victoria......
  So India was not a target for mass colonialism of settlers, as North America, Australia, South Africa and Kenya, were....It had a different role in the British Empire.....There was no uniformity.....The various imperial territories, had a variety of roles and uses....
  
  https://www.bing.com/search?q=indian+empire+map&qs=LT&pq=in...

  

  indian empire map - Search
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  Roaring Lovely September 24, 2022 at 5:26pm

  

  So Britain ruled IN COLLABORATION with the very Indians themselves. Calling it a 'British empire' is an historical misnomer. It should be called 'indo-British empire', or something like that, just like we talk of 'medo-persian empire' even though the rulership structure was drafted in Persia, not medes.
  
  Apparently, this is how Britain 'ruled' throughout the so called empire. It is the absurdity of colonizing pple by their own help! Thisvis why British, though 'the largest empire' was also 'the fastest collapsing empire'. It didn't require a fighting. It only required people to wake up one day in long trousers!😆
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  AlternateEarth September 24, 2022 at 5:21pm

  

  Blue eyed cat -I'm not trying to start a argument by your comment about the US as the poorest nation in the future-news flash, I don't want this build out to happen, but there is a plan to import tens of millions of people from India, Asia, and Africa to rent or buy new apartments being jammed into the North East right now-people to raise the value of these big investors developments and to buy more consumer goods than can be calculated-if anything the US will crack into sections-blue staes vs red states that become autonomous-Beyond greed and these investors are from around the globe.
  https://matthewminkin.wordpress.com/2007/11/07/the-25-trillion-land...
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  Drekx Omega September 24, 2022 at 5:15pm

  

  Roaring said: "Fact is that Britain could not possibly rule even India alone, all the way from London. India now has the largest population in the world. For every one briton there might have been thousands of Indians! So how could they all be ruled from London??"
  
  Drekx response: We allowed the maharajas to rule India, on our behalf...And they were pledged loyalty to the Viceroy, who was British..We also had British Army there, conscripting Indians into the forces...We also had a vast civil service and employed many Indians to work in it....
  There were two phases of difficulty for the Empire.....The Indian Mutiny of 1857....
  And from that time the East India Company handed over the reigns of imperial power to the Crown....
  
  The second tense moment was the post WW2 period, which was a time of much bloodshed....After Britain left, having granted India independence, Pakistan and Bangledesh separated from India and a massive war broke out between Hindus and Moslems......
  
  India had been successfully defended from Japan, in WW2, so I did not define that period as too serious, albeit wartime India..