Comments

• 

  Roaring Lovely September 24, 2022 at 10:15am

  Quote:
  "In the late 18th and early 19th centuries, there were genuine humanitarians in Parliament and in the churches of that era, who truly wanted to improve the lives of black slaves and felt strongly compassionate towards them...As did many British people, then..."
  
  Reply:
  
  The Britain immediate move to colonialism destroys this 'compassion' explanation for 'end of slavery'. It might have been a 'good' end result, but it was certainly not the motive behind British push to end slavery. They had more selfish motives such as getting access to Ghana's (ancient) gold reserves. They reasoned that if they abolished slave trade, they will gain support from victimized African communities, which will help them gain more influence in Africa, facilitating colonialism. It is no different from U.S. seeming to 'sympathies' with Israel, Kuwait etc. They can fool their citizens that 'they are compassionate towards the suffering of an Israeli in the hands of a terrorist', when in reality, what they want is to entrench their military presence there, plunder middle eastern oil and divide the region into conflicting groups. That was the intend of Britain. They wanted to exploit the divisiveness that aroused due to slavery to divide and rule Africa etc. By seeming to support the so called 'black pple', they just carried out the same tactic US used to fight Iraq: by seeming to support Shias etc. It is only after sometimes did Iraqis understood that U.S. is an enemy of both the Iraqi Shias and Sunni alike. Then they were chased out of Iraq! They regard Shias as 'Iranian proxies' in a falsed, generalized way. Similarly, it took long for Africans to understand that Britain was out to sit on them all, regardless whether they were slave pushers or even British allies! Even those who fought for Britain in WW2 were looked down upon as 'blacks' as Britain now mend ties with Germany etc as 'fellow whites' and that Africans still deserved to be colonized.
  
  So in summary, colonialism was worse off than slavery. Slavery only called for 'sympathizing with African physical well being', but colonialism called for 'sympathizing for African dignity'. So colonialism eclipses British abolition of slavery and brings into question its true intend.
• 

  Drekx Omega September 24, 2022 at 8:44am

  

  So, in response to RL I will suggest that there were two actual reasons for the Abolition and they were not the same as "America's war on terror," or any such nonsense, devised by post WW2 schemers....
  
  In the late 18th and early 19th centuries, there were genuine humanitarians in Parliament and in the churches of that era, who truly wanted to improve the lives of black slaves and felt strongly compassionate towards them...As did many British people, then...
  
  The second reason for the abolition, was that the UK became the FIRST industrialized country and had less reasons, than others, to employ slave labour for manual tasks....The steam age was a technology that allowed for alternatives, in the commercial arenas...The "British Agricultural Revolution." This changed farming in the British Isles, as well as the Empire...
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Agricultural_Revolution

  British Agricultural Revolution

  The British Agricultural Revolution, or Second Agricultural Revolution, was an unprecedented increase in agricultural production in Britain arising f…
• 

  Drekx Omega September 24, 2022 at 8:34am

  

  Here is a quote about the Parliamentarian and evangelical Christian, known to have been the driving force, behind the abolition of slavery:
  
  "William Wilberforce Abolition Speech
  Here are some inspiring William Wilberforce facts about the abolition speech!
  
  Wilberforce's abolitionism was influenced by his conversion to evangelical Christianity in the late 1700s. John Newton, who was a previous slave trader and he also had converted and was a pastor for Wilberforce's church and he became his spiritual counselor.
  
  Wilberforce was a vocal and unwavering proponent of anti-slavery laws in the House of Commons. He sponsored 12 anti-slavery motions and delivered one of the compelling speeches in the House of Commons, according to numerous publications at the time during the 1780s.
  
  The motions had the support of William Pitt, Charles Fox (who was usually the rival of William Pitt), etc. However, they were not enacted into law; therefore, the problem was postponed until the following parliamentary session.
  
  William Wilberforce emphasizes the importance of what he is discussing in the opening portion of his speech. Not only for the people he is addressing but also for their children and their children's children. He admits that he is 'both afraid and anxious about my own ineptitude' but that he would strive to overcome this because of the gravity of the situation. Wilberforce continued to make his case. He advocates for the 'complete elimination of slavery.'
  
  Wilberforce discusses the slave trade in the second half of his address. He begins by describing the actual hardships that enslaved people faced while traveling the middle passage on British ships. The very few lines in which Wilberforce recounts the conditions aboard these ships in some detail, particularly the situation known as tight packing, directly appeal to listeners' emotions. Emotional appeals contrast his past pronouncements, in which he claimed that his arguments would be based on logic rather than emotion. However, he uses emotional appeals in the second half of the speech, and he does it well.
  
  Despite all the reasons made by this Liverpool merchants' delegation, Wilberforce asserts in the final lines of his impassioned speech that the slave trade must be abolished, regardless of the economic ramifications. This is because what is going on is 'so massive, so terrible' that it can't go on. It goes against humanity's nature or, at the very least, humanity's inherent desire to feel compassion for the pain of humanity.
  
  On July 26, 1833, the House of Commons passed the Slavery Abolition Act. Wilberforce died three days later. His final resting place is at the Westminster Abbey."
  
  https://kidadl.com/facts/william-wilberforce-facts-british-politici...
• 

  Roaring Lovely September 24, 2022 at 8:30am

  

  So the modern apparent detest of slavery colonialism etc amongst European governments etc is no different from the apology papacy offers for its past persecutions against anyone who went astray from church's teaching. Nothing at all about repentance! If we are not careful, and we re-install a pop back to power, he will take us back to dark ages. Same applies to European governments etc. If not stopped in one way or another, they will take the world back to slavery, colonialism and world wars!
• 

  Roaring Lovely September 24, 2022 at 7:53am

  I need to clarify a bit on this issue of 'ethics surrounding slave trade abolition'. Very few pple, including so called 'blacks', can discern the lie that 'white man abolished slavery' willingly. We know very well, in modern times, that 'influx of pple' to Britain is not politically tenable, hence Brexit etc. This mean Britons, even in modern times, donnot want people going to Britain to work for cheap wages, even if picking vegetables, cleaning toilets, driving trucks etc, not because they don't like exploitation of these cheap labour but because there are Britons who can do this tasks for better wages!! The same thing will be even worse if it were an 'immigration' due to 'slave trade'.
  
  People take it for granted, without thinking, that an influx of 'black' slaves to America or Europe will be of benefit to a 'white man' and so the latter man has not other motive behind termination of such, other than having higher moral values. This view falls down on close extermination that the capitalism which was an hold over from feudalism rendered land owners and factory owners few (perhaps even 1%) and the rest of 'white men' must seek employment from the capitalist. So influx of slaves would either leave a 'white man' with no job or be forced to be a slave too! Furthermore, the continued influx of slaves would irrevesably change the demographics of America etc, making it a 'black-majority' country! So slave trade had to be stopped for the sake of 'white man' and his future, not the other way round!
• 

  Roaring Lovely September 24, 2022 at 7:13am

  

  They now insinuate that they cared less about 80% of Yemenis stranded with no food, or killing of over 10000 of their children because unlike Ukrainians, they are not civilized blue-eyed blondes. They (those who engage in so called wokery) are not even ashamed to say this loudly in their MSM! There is nothing benevolent at all about wokery! BLM, for instance, has nothing to do with support for the so called 'blacks'. Same applies to 'end of slavery', 'decolonization' etc. Every smart person knows that these persuits backfired against the cabal, and so were abolished, for otherwise 'immigration' of so called blacks would be welcomed.
  
  Anybody can be 'black' or 'white' depending on where they live on earth. A Palestinian in U.S. is a 'black' person, and so 'his life matter' there, but holus bolus, in Israel, he is a 'white man', and the so called 'left' person now don't care about the lifes of the Palestinian!!
  
  The modern world like to dwell on an allegedly evil past, eg slavery, colonialism etc as if we are living in a different moral standard in modern times. We are not!
• 

  Roaring Lovely September 24, 2022 at 6:50am

  

  Quote:
  
  "Moreover, we abolished slavery in 1833, three decades before America..And policed the high seas, fighting the slave trade of other colonial powers, including America, France, Holland, Spain and Portugal...As well as middle eastern and African slavers.."
  
  Quote:
  
  More accurately:
  "Moreover, we abolished slavery in 1833, three decades before America..And (USED THIS AS AN EXCUSE TO) police the high seas, fighting the slave trade of other colonial powers, including America, France, Holland, Spain and Portugal...As well as middle eastern and African slavers.."
  
  In other words Britain attempted to asurp the 'world policeman' role in the guise of 'fighting slave trade' just like U.S. attempts to do so in the guise of 'fighting terrorism' or 'spreading democracy'. This is why we condemn Britain.
  
  U.S.(often in company of Britain) uses 'fight for communism', 'fight of terrorism' and 'spread of democracy' to justify every kind of wickedness around the world. Why did they help to install Mobutu or even Saddam? Guess what? this was 'necessary evil' to fight communism! Why create al-Qaida? again 'to fight communism'. Why help Israel for apartheid against Palestinians? 'to fight Hamas', which 'is a terorist group'.
  
  You might have also noticed that everyone who does not serve U.S.'s interests is either a 'terrorist', an 'authoritarian', a 'communist', a 'state sponsor of terrorism' or 'in the communist sphere of influence'. Thus houthis are 'terrorists'. Talibanis are 'terrorists', mau mau (at then) were 'terrorists' IRGC are 'terrorists'. Russia is 'a state sponsor of terrorism'. Phew!
  
  Thus I don't need lots of past, possibly corrupted his-story to question the sudden benevolence in British alleged 'policing the world' to end 'slave trade'. We know how governments works, as seen in modern world. We don't need history at all! His-story only creats room for more lies and more propaganda. If we cannot agree on what is going on NOW in Ukraine, what can we agree about in 1800s?
• 

  ET Hugger September 23, 2022 at 9:55pm

  Soulmate = same soul ray (energy) or someone you know from a former life.
• 

  Drekx Omega September 23, 2022 at 8:41pm

  

  For all my dear friends on ACC, here is a welcome musical interlude, in between our passionate and lively discussions, upon the salient topics of history, space farers, occult and politics......
  
  Note the excellent organist skills of Elske and I especially enjoy the forceful majesty of the fugue....Something of a musical force majeure....👏🏻😊🎵
  
  Bach - Prelude and fugue in B minor BWV 544 - Te Lindert of the Netherlands Bach Society
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES7fN2lXWHU
• 

  Drekx Omega September 23, 2022 at 6:28pm

  

  I'm very pleased to see that many outlets on the right, in America, are noticing the absurdities of globalist/communist wokesters, in MSM, demanding that the "British Empire" pays reparations to black people, for colonialism and slavery.....
  
  The ignorant left do not realise that the UK is a Constitutional Monarchy, not an Absolute Monarchy...and there is a difference, when it comes to national budgeting and control of the exchequer...
  
  Moreover, we abolished slavery in 1833, three decades before America..And policed the high seas, fighting the slave trade of other colonial powers, including America, France, Holland, Spain and Portugal...As well as middle eastern and African slavers..
  
  Don lemon, of CNN, made a complete ass of himself recently, when he suggested this anti-British talking point, in an interview with an informed royal scholar, WHO ACTUALLY KNOWS HISTORY......lol😇 Something these woke people are not used to ...
  
  "McEnany: This takedown of Don Lemon was 'absolutely epic'"
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz5I_A5bQTk