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So I don't just 'follow propaganda'. I listen to all sides and draw a view that can rationally explain the situation.
Also that Russia's mission is a 'special military operation' is not a 'media propaganda'. That is the gazetted order from Russia's commander in chief of armed forces. That is what armies are officially ordered to do, and they know what operation is 'invasion', 'annexation' 'demilitarization' etc. Putin's statement was formal, not a media briefing, or something like that.
JJ buys into the western propaganda claiming that Putin's aim is to annex the whole of Ukraine. He falls into it due to the carefull crafting that takes the advantage of the fact that originally, Russia invade from the north all the way through Chernobyl as if in an attempt to stage a quick coup in Kiev.
But this näive comparison with U.S. invasion of Iraq that marched from the Gulf of Persia all the way to Baghdad fails to take a crucial fact into consideration: The coalition forces had to use about 200,000 troops to overthrow the tiny Iraq but Putin only sent around 50,000 troops to Kiev from Belarus.
Now who is here buying into propaganda without thinking? Someone who beleives that a country of over 40 million pple can be annexed by just 50,000 gunmen or someone who reasons that a complete annexation of Ukraine could not have been the true aim of Russia? The crowd can decide this for themselves!
And as for "imagining Joe Biden invading Mexico," I admit he is too much of a coward, but he is good at letting Mexico invade America....
As for Roaring Lovely's counter arguments to yours, I totally agree with them....He runs circles around you, John....And you were wondering where he comes from..?? Kenya, in the heart of Africa....And he's educated, so choose your words carefully, as he will respond with knowledge, that you can only dream of acquiring.
As for your support for Zelensky and his Nazis, did you not view my video, on this very thread, showing actual photos and footage, of Ukrainian Nazi flags, "black sun" units shelling Russian people and anti-semitic school plays..?? If not I suggest you do, before claiming that Ukraine is innocent and Russia is the aggressor....Indeed, Ukraine was innocent and peaceful, until the wicked OBAMA ADMIN installed a puppet government, using Victoria Nuland, who was instrumental in the Maidan coup, supporting it, financing it and getting Petro Poroshenko "elected" into office as President and later your hero, Zelinsky...BOTH CORRUPT....
And as soon as they established Nazi units in the Ukraine military, like Azov Battalion, they started a genocide against Russian-speaking people...
So get your facts straight, before coming on this website to lecture us, with your wagging finger, matey....
All you have proven to us so far, is that WEF/MSM globalist propaganda does actually work on some people and that you are one of them...
With sympathy, the Colonel
But we value freedom here lol You people might be used to being subjugated lol But over HERE, we have a strong personal love of freedom lol And for someone to force the population, by edict, to fight in a war, is just the worst thing imaginable, I mean they'd march to Ottawa and throw Trudeau out if he tried to pull something like that lol
People here didn't even want to wear a MASK during a global PANDEMIC lol That's how much we value freedom lol Europeans might like a strong leader that tells them what to do, here we don't like that lol Putin could never rule over here, people would not take him seriously.
Yet when Putin does it lol Ohhh that Putin lol What a great man, that Putin lol Just ugh. For some REASON, you people completely look the other way.
To me, it's like two devils fighting over who's gonna rule lol When what we need to do, is get the devils OUT. I mean the common people aren't into any of this shit. That's why they're all flocking OUT of Russia now lol They don't want no part of this.They have to be forced to fight, even Ukraine, they all were flocking out before they were FORCED to fight. The people dont want this shit.
You talking about these people like they're great heroes, these are, basically, monsters. I mean again, pick your devil lol Putin is only slightly better than the NWO lol
I mean in their newspapers they say it lol They plan on eliminating Ukraine as we know it, no Ukrainian culture, no Ukrainian identity, no nothing. Back to Russia lol Ukraine was created by Russia, they say, and they want it back lol
Yet you'll believe them when they say, oh it's just a "special operation' lol To "liberate' the two provinces, and that's it lol Well why did they go all over the place then, they didn't just go to the two provinces. I mean they went right for the capital, right away lol Wtf is that.
They went for the capital, right away lol And you THINK it's just a small operation to liberate the two provinces. You believe all this hype about neo-Nazis ruling. The goal is nothing more than the total annexation of Ukraine back to Russia, and again, only a fool can't see that.
1.)Turkey entry into northern Syria and Iraq
2.)China's entry to Korean war
3.)Israeli entry to both Lebanese and Syrian war
4.) Saudi's entry to Yemeni war
5.)Rwanda, Uganda, Zimbabwe, Namibia etc entry to Congolese wars.
6.) Ethiopia entry to Somalia war
7.) Even in ancient times, Cyrus The Great entered to Syro-Babylonian wars.
This highlights that it is common for acountry to seem to invade a neighbouring country when that country gets into a messy war. The reason is simple: the borders are far more artificial constructs than natural ones. The presence of kurds both in Turkey and Syria, for instance, lends a Syrian conflict easily leak to Turkey (again remember how Burundi war lead to Rwandan war).
The only entity that does wars of pure choice, in this world, is U.S. (and maybe Europe during colonial times). Neither Afghanistan, Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, Yemen or Ukraine are of any security interests to U.S., Which protected by the two largest oceans on earth. Their presence there is pure hegemonic and hence very illegitimate! So we should not lose the focus of condemning U.S., not Russia!