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  • Roaring Lovely June 16, 2021 at 8:16pm
    I have been with pple here long enough to understand that '5D' is nothing but 'emperor's cloths'!! It is invoked to put down even the most sound arguments!! Just say 'that is all acording to 3d'. In five dimensional beings,.....then he spews the poppycock. '5D' is strange place where all nonsense are allas! True! There is nothing '5' about it, nor is there anything 'dimension' about it. What pple love is the word 'higher', thats all! 5d is a joker card hidding behind the sleeve! When he can nolonger table arguments, he unleashes it!! After all I am a five dimensional being and according to us,...., then he spews ridiculous poppycock!!
  • marker dragon June 16, 2021 at 8:13pm
    I do not have any opinion on tree in the forest, RL. I think it is meaningless. I also think Emperors clothes is literally irrelevant to discussion
  • Roaring Lovely June 16, 2021 at 8:07pm
    "These are your words, not mine. I have not said anything even remotely like this"

    You do champion a 'tree-in-the-forest' theory and claim it that this is what QM teaches. Then when you are shown otherwise, you switch gears and say 'QM is just 3D'. You do peddle 'emperor's cloths' over and over! You try to asing 'dimensionality' to arguments while never showing us what is it that you are calling it 'another world'. Not different from emperor's cloths that 'can only be seen by the privileged'!
  • marker dragon June 16, 2021 at 7:26pm
    RL. "It doesn't justify your belief that 'you create the world by merely looking at it', so again you resort to emperor's cloths!! If you don't see the cloths of the emperor, then 'you are primitive'. Hopefully , pple will claim that 'i too see the cloths' for fear that you will describe them as 'primitive'. But they will end up walking naked!! I am not one of them!!"

    These are your words, not mine. I have not said anything even remotely like this.
  • Roaring Lovely June 16, 2021 at 7:08pm
    The 'emperor's cloths falacy'

    Generaly, it goes this way:

    There is something that I know but which I can't explain to you. This knowledge makes me better off, in some way, than you.

    In other words 'unlike you, I am privileged to see emperor's cloths'. It is a form of intimidation or peer preasure. We cant know or confirm if the claimant is actually seeing anything!!! But, he puts us down 'for not seeing it' anyway!! However, it turns out that there us nothing like that that actually exists, and so 'the emperor is naked'!

    But they manage to intimidate pple to claim too that 'they see the cloths' by assigning those who 'don't see' to a 'lower state' eg '3d'!! So everyone claims 'they too are in 5d' to avoid being undertooked by the peers!!

    Meanwhile, the concocters gets away with selling poppycock!!
  • Roaring Lovely June 16, 2021 at 6:53pm
    "Hi Roaring Lovely

    Again. I do not live in your world. The work of 3d physics that you reference is primitive. Sorry."

    It doesn't justify your belief that 'you create the world by merely looking at it', so again you resort to emperor's cloths!! If you don't see the cloths of the emperor, then 'you are primitive'. Hopefully , pple will claim that 'i too see the cloths' for fear that you will describe them as 'primitive'. But they will end up walking naked!! I am not one of them!!
  • marker dragon June 16, 2021 at 6:43pm
    Hi Roaring Lovely

    Again. I do not live in your world. The work of 3d physics that you reference is primitive. Sorry.
  • Roaring Lovely June 16, 2021 at 6:39pm
    "Needing volumes to explain quantum mechanics is applying 3d models to a 5d problem"

    Pure nonsense!! QM is a 3D theory! Must you hijack a physics theory, written with volumes of books to justify a simple, non-scientific, unfalsifiable claim about '5D'? Do you need a rubber stamp of a physicist to justify your beliefs?
  • marker dragon June 16, 2021 at 6:21pm
    Needing volumes to explain quantum mechanics is applying 3d models to a 5d problem
  • Roaring Lovely June 16, 2021 at 5:45pm
    String theory is a mathematical nonsense, not science!!
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