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  turtles June 8, 2014 at 5:41pm

  i was doing some research on shamans and they go through a process where they are taken close to death and some of them even experience coming back from the dead. coming back from the dead is not just in Christianity but in shamanic traditions where the shaman is taught to embrace death and are transformed by the sickness they have to reach altered states. also when Christianity moved to the Roman area they did not have gods that offered the afterlife and so here was a man that did offer an afterlife, which was very appealing to the romans. also with the death and coming back from the dead it taught people not to fear death. i am starting to think the fear of death is one of the biggest fears people have - the fear of death in all of it's forms, ego, dark night of the soul and physical
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    Andronover > turtles June 8, 2014 at 9:11pm

    That's true Turtles , and the fear for Death is of course a lack of spiriuality.

    To know that our "meatsuit" is just temporally gives a calm within , and no need to take what you can and " do what you can" , while one live.
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      turtles > Andronover June 8, 2014 at 9:22pm

      I am wrong about the romans not having an afterlife....and yes agreed Andronover. I think that facing death WITH COURAGE AS A WARRIOR and giving up the fear around it is the most liberating of spiritual feats......

      http://www.allabouthistory.org/ancient-romans-faq.htm

      Did the ancient Romans believe in an afterlife? 

      
      "Yes, the ancient Romans did believe in an afterlife. They believed in the immortality of the soul and had a complicated belief system about life after death. The ancient Romans believed that when one died, one was met by Mercury, the messenger god and son of Jupiter and taken to the river Styx, that flowed nine times around the underworld. There they paid the ferryman, Charon, a fee to cross the river where they were met and judged by Minos, Aenaeus, and Rhadymanthas". - See more at: http://www.allabouthistory.org/ancient-romans-faq.htm#sthash.lcBOXF...
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        turtles > turtles June 8, 2014 at 9:30pm

         if Jesus rose from the dead why should the early christians (and all christians) fear death, which was helpful to them while they were being persecuted for their beliefs.....
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  Andronover June 6, 2014 at 8:15pm

  Asar , to answer your question - WE ARE OUR OWN SAVIOURS.

  Jesus aka ESU/CHrist Michael don't want people to be passive and waiting for "the saviour" to come and fix us to Paradise.

  We have to EARN Ascension , and to step up in vibration.

  This is not about US , it's about God expressing his thoughts (manifestation) through us.

  We are his extended arm , and we all have a fatherfragment within us , which is our Connection to Him/Her.

  Jesus role 2000 years ago were to raise up humanitys vibration , and to take care of the Lucifer rebellion.

  I think that this planet would be lost without Jesus appearence on Earth.

  A pity that this planet is known as "the planet that tried to kill God" - not so flattering huh?
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  Adalis Stargazing May 9, 2014 at 4:03am

  I don't.  The story of Jesus isn't real.  It's ripped off from stories of pagan gods that came before him.

  http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jckr1.htm

  http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5.htm

  http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5b.htm

  http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5d.htm

  http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa.htm

  http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa4.htm

  

  Similarities between two god-men saviors: Jesus and Krishna

  Similarities between two god-men saviors: Jesus and Krishna
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  Kira May 8, 2014 at 1:49pm

  Jesus is an Anunnaki, an incarnation of Thoth/Hermes, the son of Enki.  Hermes is the thrice born.  They were in opposition to Enlil who wanted to keep humanity enslaved.  We were created as a slave species. But once Thoth discovered the Watchers, the Galzu, he studied with them and became enlightened.  The Messiah is a title and just means a teacher who has information so we (humanity) might become conscious and awaken.  

  Nannar Sin is Allah and a son of Enlil.  If one sinned they were just in opposition to Enlil's commands.  The sinners of Sodom and Gomorrah, for example, were just supporters of Marduk of the Enki clan. Thus they were sinners, in opposition to Enlil. Those who went into Nannar/Sin's camp were the original "Sinners".  

  Sort it all out by looking at who loves humanity and wishes us to evolve and who wants to keep us in the dark and as corporate/economic slaves.  

  Religions, money and politics are all slave maintaining systems. We need a new paradigm way outside of this current matrix.  

  Get out of debt and only buy that which you can afford to pay for in cash. I know that's hard. But if we stop supporting debt through nullity, then eventually we all get free. That's one way. Nullity. Debt creates enslavement.  
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    Andronover > Kira June 5, 2014 at 9:59pm

    Kira this is halftruths.

    Jesus were a doubleincarnation between Esu and Christ Michael - our creatorson.

    Jesus is for sure NOT an Annunaki.
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      Kira > Andronover June 5, 2014 at 11:26pm

      The historical Jesus was an incarnation of Enki or his son Thoth.  The synthetic Jesus was a creation by Enlil through Constantine at the Fifth Ecumenical Council.  That's the version we "worship" to this day.  

      Worship is just an abbreviated form of workship.  Thou shalt not work for any other gods, is that they were originally saying not thou shalt not worship any other gods.  

      Enlil hates humanity and seeks to control us, limit our numbers. He created the Jewish, Muslim and Christian faiths so humanity would be in constant war with one another. It's a further "Babel" process (again Enlil).  Orwell's 1984 symbolized this by the three countries. But the three countries are the three religions that keep us in eternal war.

      Enki tried to free humanity with the "Messiah" (messenger).  Enlil obfiscated Christianity for his own purposes.  Source does not need worshipping or wars.  No Crusades or Crusaders.  No Jihads.  Enlil (Yaweh) is a jealous god who controls the world through his Illuminati to his day.  

      But it's now Enki's turn and the tides are turning, the Aquarian Age is upon us. 
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        Andronover > Kira June 6, 2014 at 11:25am

        Kira , I don't know what your source is , but this is completely false info.

        Believe me , i've checked with my inner Compass ;)

        The Urantiabook and Phoenix journals is the truth , and I recommend you to read them.