Utopian society can exists

Sorry message posted twice. I guess I'm supposed to say more. LOL! Anyway I've been doing this community stuff for 20 years and it's difficult. It takes money and tons of hard labor. If anyone wants to explore community in Hawaii, let me know. I have one and it's probably not like you envision or fantasize it. But there are many communities here and most are own by the few, worked by the many. Some use WWOOFERS. If you want to experience community, become a WWOOFER (google it, join the network, travel). You can work on farms and communities around the planet, get ideas, contribute and maybe come up with some better ideas to do this. There are communities out there all over the place. There's a communities directory as well. Good luck. It's fun but hard work. I'm almost 60, birthday is Feb. 6th and now since I'm in community and getting old, I'm getting tired from all the hard work. No way to retire, so it seems. Anyone have ideas how to really make community work that feels good to all? I'm open to hear more.

Everyone can always do something unless they're sitting there comatose. Even handicapped can contribute in some way if only they are companions for others. Very few are so completely incapacitated that they can do nothing. Look at Stephen Hawking. He has developed his mind to contribute while his body is so decimated. Michael Tellinger speaks of contributionism, UBUNTU. Look it up. Read and listen to youtubes on the subject. The very weak will not survive the refugee process. Nature still has its way with us despite all we try to do otherwise. Nature reigns supreme. So if we get back to basics we all have to contribute, like our ancestors did, like our forefathers who came to the wild frontier and made it happened or perished. None of us have so much or are so enhanced that we can afford to do it all and pay for it all. The super rich don't give a damn about community or US for that matter, so stop looking for the savior. Each has to contribute, do his or her part and building community involves picking up a shovel, digging in the dirt, erecting walls and getting it all under roof. And then pray the roof will hold up and doesn't leak for inevitably rains will fall and winds will blow.

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TheOne January 8, 2014 at 10:37pm

i saw this about 2 years ago when i first got interested it really open my eyes further :)
TheOne January 8, 2014 at 10:19pm

never, run away. simply building a model a prototype. so the world can see not just dream
TheOne January 8, 2014 at 2:21am

no way Greece sounds great
Kira January 7, 2014 at 3:50pm

Sorry message posted twice. I guess I'm supposed to say more. LOL! Anyway I've been doing this community stuff for 20 years and it's difficult. It takes money and tons of hard labor. If anyone wants to explore community in Hawaii, let me know. I have one and it's probably not like you envision or fantasize it. But there are many communities here and most are own by the few, worked by the many. Some use WWOOFERS. If you want to experience community, become a WWOOFER (google it, join the network, travel). You can work on farms and communities around the planet, get ideas, contribute and maybe come up with some better ideas to do this. There are communities out there all over the place. There's a communities directory as well. Good luck. It's fun but hard work. I'm almost 60, birthday is Feb. 6th and now since I'm in community and getting old, I'm getting tired from all the hard work. No way to retire, so it seems. Anyone have ideas how to really make community work that feels good to all? I'm open to hear more.
Kira January 7, 2014 at 3:48pm

Everyone can always do something unless they're sitting there comatose. Even handicapped can contribute in some way if only they are companions for others. Very few are so completely incapacitated that they can do nothing. Look at Stephen Hawking. He has developed his mind to contribute while his body is so decimated. Michael Tellinger speaks of contributionism, UBUNTU. Look it up. Read and listen to youtubes on the subject. The very weak will not survive the refugee process. Nature still has its way with us despite all we try to do otherwise. Nature reigns supreme. So if we get back to basics we all have to contribute, like our ancestors did, like our forefathers who came to the wild frontier and made it happened or perished. None of us have so much or are so enhanced that we can afford to do it all and pay for it all. The super rich don't give a damn about community or US for that matter, so stop looking for the savior. Each has to contribute, do his or her part and building community involves picking up a shovel, digging in the dirt, erecting walls and getting it all under roof. And then pray the roof will hold up and doesn't leak for inevitably rains will fall and winds will blow.
Pet Rock January 6, 2014 at 8:39pm

so the power plant is the bio gas-from inside plumbing or a central location wher the sewage is pumped? A lot of work and big bucks to get it done right
- Acute Observer > Pet Rock January 6, 2014 at 11:07pm
  
  They must be making pretty big bucks already in that organization. I've looked through their webpages, their network and their presentation videos. We're talking hundreds of thousands of invested dollars on the presentation material alone here. The speaker alone probably charged 5 thousand bucks. Especially on "ez-launch-video", I know that voice, it's a celebrity voice. Very very VERY professional stuff there. They don't actually SAY anything in that material but it sure is shining brightly. Almost as brightly as Greg's Seawalls. ;)
Pet Rock January 6, 2014 at 8:37pm

yippie idiot
- Michael > Pet Rock January 6, 2014 at 8:48pm
  
  Love will only flourish in compassion and kindness, no matter if it is 3d or 4d
Michael January 6, 2014 at 8:02pm

I like the Swiss cave hobbit like homesteads around the pond.......................thats nice, I took part of building one of them with dirt and used tires. I built it , only a wine celar but the main house was genious. ............the guy I worked for joked with me one day , that electricity was the most expensive item on the bill................I always liked his project in Royal Arkansas.................(too close to main road and highway noise but his 30 acres of "bluffs and hills" was nice),..........................