Why I’m Posting Bail Money for Julian Assange by Michael Moore

2010 December 14

 

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Why I’m Posting Bail Money for Julian Assange by Michael Moore

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-moore/why-im-posting-bail-money_b_796319.html

 

Yesterday, in the Westminster Magistrates Court in London, the lawyers for WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange presented to the judge a document from me stating that I have put up $20,000 of my own money to help bail Mr. Assange out of jail.

Furthermore, I am publicly offering the assistance of my website, my servers, my domain names and anything else I can do to keep WikiLeaks alive and thriving as it continues its work to expose the crimes that were concocted in secret and carried out in our name and with our tax dollars.

We were taken to war in Iraq on a lie. Hundreds of thousands are now dead. Just imagine if the men who planned this war crime back in 2002 had had a WikiLeaks to deal with. They might not have been able to pull it off. The only reason they thought they could get away with it was because they had a guaranteed cloak of secrecy. That guarantee has now been ripped from them, and I hope they are never able to operate in secret again.

So why is WikiLeaks, after performing such an important public service, under such vicious attack? Because they have outed and embarrassed those who have covered up the truth. The assault on them has been over the top:

- Sen. Joe Lieberman says WikiLeaks “has violated the Espionage Act.”

- The New Yorker’s George Packer calls Assange “super-secretive, thin-skinned, [and] megalomaniacal.”

- Sarah Palin claims he’s “an anti-American operative with blood on his hands” whom we should pursue “with the same urgency we pursue al Qaeda and Taliban leaders.”

- Democrat Bob Beckel (Walter Mondale’s 1984 campaign manager) said about Assange on Fox: “A dead man can’t leak stuff … there’s only one way to do it: illegally shoot the son of a bitch.”

- Republican Mary Matalin says “he’s a psychopath, a sociopath … He’s a terrorist.”

- Rep. Peter A. King calls WikiLeaks a “terrorist organization.”

And indeed they are! They exist to terrorize the liars and warmongers who have brought ruin to our nation and to others. Perhaps the next war won’t be so easy because the tables have been turned — and now it’s Big Brother who’s being watched … by us!

WikiLeaks deserves our thanks for shining a huge spotlight on all this. But some in the corporate-owned press have dismissed the importance of WikiLeaks (“they’ve released little that’s new!”) or have painted them as simple anarchists (“WikiLeaks just releases everything without any editorial control!”). WikiLeaks exists, in part, because the mainstream media has failed to live up to its responsibility. The corporate owners have decimated newsrooms, making it impossible for good journalists to do their job. There’s no time or money anymore for investigative journalism. Simply put, investors don’t want those stories exposed. They like their secrets kept … as secrets.

I ask you to imagine how much different our world would be if WikiLeaks had existed 10 years ago. Take a look at this photo. That’s Mr. Bush about to be handed a “secret” document on August 6th, 2001. Its heading read: “Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US.” And on those pages it said the FBI had discovered “patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings.” Mr. Bush decided to ignore it and went fishing for the next four weeks.

But if that document had been leaked, how would you or I have reacted? What would Congress or the FAA have done? Was there not a greater chance that someone, somewhere would have done something if all of us knew about bin Laden’s impending attack using hijacked planes?

But back then only a few people had access to that document. Because the secret was kept, a flight school instructor in San Diego who noticed that two Saudi students took no interest in takeoffs or landings, did nothing. Had he read about the bin Laden threat in the paper, might he have called the FBI? (Please read this essay by former FBI Agent Coleen Rowley, Time’s 2002 co-Person of the Year, about her belief that had WikiLeaks been around in 2001, 9/11 might have been prevented.)

Or what if the public in 2003 had been able to read “secret” memos from Dick Cheney as he pressured the CIA to give him the “facts” he wanted in order to build his false case for war? If a WikiLeaks had revealed at that time that there were, in fact, no weapons of mass destruction, do you think that the war would have been launched — or rather, wouldn’t there have been calls for Cheney’s arrest?

Openness, transparency — these are among the few weapons the citizenry has to protect itself from the powerful and the corrupt. What if within days of August 4th, 1964 — after the Pentagon had made up the lie that our ship was attacked by the North Vietnamese in the Gulf of Tonkin — there had been a WikiLeaks to tell the American people that the whole thing was made up? I guess 58,000 of our soldiers (and 2 million Vietnamese) might be alive today.

Instead, secrets killed them.

For those of you who think it’s wrong to support Julian Assange because of the sexual assault allegations he’s being held for, all I ask is that you not be naive about how the government works when it decides to go after its prey. Please — never, ever believe the “official story.” And regardless of Assange’s guilt or innocence (see the strange nature of the allegations here), this man has the right to have bail posted and to defend himself. I have joined with filmmakers Ken Loach and John Pilger and writer Jemima Khan in putting up the bail money — and we hope the judge will accept this and grant his release today.

Might WikiLeaks cause some unintended harm to diplomatic negotiations and U.S. interests around the world? Perhaps. But that’s the price you pay when you and your government take us into a war based on a lie. Your punishment for misbehaving is that someone has to turn on all the lights in the room so that we can see what you’re up to. You simply can’t be trusted. So every cable, every email you write is now fair game. Sorry, but you brought this upon yourself. No one can hide from the truth now. No one can plot the next Big Lie if they know that they might be exposed.

And that is the best thing that WikiLeaks has done. WikiLeaks, God bless them, will save lives as a result of their actions. And any of you who join me in supporting them are committing a true act of patriotism. Period.

I stand today in absentia with Julian Assange in London and I ask the judge to grant him his release. I am willing to guarantee his return to court with the bail money I have wired to said court. I will not allow this injustice to continue unchallenged.

P.S. You can read the statement I filed today in the London court here.

P.P.S. If you’re reading this in London, please go support Julian Assange and WikiLeaks at ademonstration at 1 PM today, Tuesday the 14th, in front of the Westminster court.

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  • 'Great spirits have always encountered opposition from mediocre minds. The mediocre mind is incapable of understanding the man whorefuses to bow blindly to conventional prejudices and chooses instead to
    express his opinions courageously and honestly.'

     - Albert Einstein

  • ...LOS ANGELES--Hollywood's most successful "independent" documentary film-maker, Michael Moore, has issued a challenge to the religious worldto consider American hypocrisy and psychopathology in a mass e-mailing promoting "socialism" and Capitalism: A Love Story. ......

     

    message, "to those who call
    yourselves Christians (Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Bill Maherists, etc. . .
    .) has outraged some observers as grossly hypocritical considering his
    financial ties to "PharmaMedia" moguls advancing H1N1 vaccines,
    population controls, and New World Order politics and propaganda.

    Moore claimed to speak for the first time about his spiritual beliefs, cautioned against religiousproselytizing, but "did a great job promoting 'socialism' as a gross
    hypocrite working for the world's wealthiest Capitalists," says Dr.
    Leonard Horowitz, a Harvard-trained expert in media persuasion and
    producer of In Lies We Trust: The CIA, Hollywood & Bioterrorism.      

    "Moore 'yammers' about American war mongering, invading other countries, when his Big Pharmabackers, a.k.a., Hollywood producers and billionaire media moguls,
    expand their wealth and population control agendas, including poisoning
    people with everything from napalm to FLUMIST," Dr. Horowitz warns.

    Surely Moore knows that without propaganda driving military conflicts and pharmaceutical warsagainst AIDS, cancer, and crime, his Capitalist co-producers might go
    broke. War waging requires propaganda, and Hollywood delivers it, in
    this case funded by the same people Moore blames for America's failing
    economy.

    Moore charges withneo-Marxist zeal, "Blessed are the wealthy for amassing more and more
    loot -- and they do their best to pay little or no income tax (last year
    Goldman Sachs' tax rate was a mere 1%!). . . . Would Jesus be a
    Capitalist? Would he approve of a system that has allowed the richest 1%
    to have more financial wealth than the 95% under them combined?"....................

     

    Moore's "PharmaMedia" Backers  

    Moore charges withneo-Marxist zeal, "Blessed are the wealthy for amassing more and more
    loot -- and they do their best to pay little or no income tax (last year
    Goldman Sachs' tax rate was a mere 1%!). . . . Would Jesus be a
    Capitalist? Would he approve of a system that has allowed the richest 1%
    to have more financial wealth than the 95% under them combined?".........

     

    proves Moore is working for that "richest 1%." His co-producers are the people he indicts as enemiesof "We the People." His backers include Harvey and Bob Weinstein, Lloyd
    Blankfein, and their partners in pharmacogenocide, Rupert Murdoch,
    David Rockefeller, and George Soros--the wealthiest industrialists in
    the world, partners that have abused the Capitalist system for decades,
    leveraged American politics, and co-created our global economic crisis.

     

    Now they enable this fat propaganda pimp to declare salvation lies in "socialism."

    Examine these allegations and connections for accuracy. . . . The Weinstein Company, a division ofABC/Disney funded by the CEO of Goldman Sachs, billionaire, Lloyd
    Blankfein, has co-produced the last three Moore blockbusters--SICKO,
    Faranheit 911, and Bowling for Columbine. Yes, the very same Goldman
    Sachs and Blankfein that Moore says is the chief Capitalist evildoer in
    his film evidences an unparalleled hypocrisy.                       

    Documenting BigPharma's complicity, and Moore's insincerity, Blankfein is a major shareholder inthe H1N1 vaccine maker of FLUMIST. Advancing civilization's
    intoxication and population reduction, this concoction transmits
    genetically-unstable lab-created viruses spreading rapidly from those
    injected to those not vaccinated. As these vectors of illness spread,
    they mutate recombining with deadlier viruses risking worsening
    pandemics. Falsely alleged to be "safe and effective," most of the bogus
    safety tests of Merck & Co.'s H1N1 vaccine was done under the
    direction of Rupert Murdoch's family-run facilities in Australia--The
    Murdoch Children's Research Institute (MCRI) and Royal Women's Hospital
    collaborating with CSL, Inc.

    And this is just the "tip of the iceberg" in gross criminal conflicting interests that persuadedMoore to neglect his co-producers connections to BigPhara. As though
    payment for population poisons is more damning than the drugs
    themselves, Moore's camera focused on third party payers--the Insurance
    Industry--shielding his PharmaMedia bosses from the exposing light of
    truth.

    Mr. Blankfein is Rupert Murdoch's Co-Chairman for the David Rockefeller-founded, Royal Family ofEngland chartered, Partnership for New York City (PFNYC)--the world's
    most powerful drug ring, vaccine syndicate, and biotechnology trust. 

    Helping Rupert run hisfamily "business," News Corp., is his heir apparent, James Murdoch.
    James is a supervising director, overseeing the Board of Directors to
    GlaxoSmithKlein, another major H1N1 "Swine Flu" vaccine maker.  .......

     

    documented in Dr. Horowitz's book, DNA: Pirates of the Sacred Spiral,
    the PFNYC, along with George Soros's Applera Company, are intimately
    linked to the US Department of Energy, the Royal Family of England's
    main philanthropic beneficiary, The Wellcome Trust of London, and
    Rockefeller assets, all key players in the pirating of the Human Genome
    Project a decade ago. This fraud enabled the lucrative genetic patents
    markets to be privatized, that is monopolized, on behalf of this
    Anglo-American controlled pharmaceutical cartel. The partners are intent
    on evolving "genetopharmaceuticals" and New World Medicine merging
    Hitlerian eugenics and modern biotech. 

     

    Most overlooked, Mr. Tony White, was reassigned by George Soros to run Applera following his26-year tenured position as chief administrator of the Baxter
    Corporation--the company at the center of the

     

    Flu vaccine controversy. Baxter shipped vials laced with the deadliest H5N1 influenza virus by"accident" last winter to companies across Europe. The company was
    predicted to unleash a mutant H1N1 bioweapon in the Ukraine, as has
    happened, according to political prisoner, Joseph Moshe, previously a
    microbiologist working for the Israeli Mossad.

    Salvation Through "Socialism".....

     

    current economic "crisis" was predicted by those Moore bemoans as "Capitalists," especially financialindustrialist George Soros in his three books. Soros said the world
    financial system had effectively disintegrated, adding that there was no
    prospect of a near-term resolution to the crisis. As heralded by
    Reuters, a news service run by Thomas H. Glocer, a Merck & Co.
    director and another partner in the PFNYC, Soros announced, "We
    witnessed the collapse of the financial system. . . . It was placed on
    life support, and it's still on life support. There's no sign that we
    are anywhere near a bottom."

    Curiously, this statement was made synchronous with the mailing of Baxter's H5N1 avian bioweapon to vaccine labs across Europe.

     

    Coincidentally, Soros's current prescription for resuscitating the ailing global economy is virtually the same as Moore's!

    In the words of Soros's favorite hedge fund manager, Victor Niederhoffer, "Most of all, Georgebelieves in a mixed economy, one with a strong central international
    government to correct for the excesses of self-interest."

    Is this global "Socialism"? You bet!.......

     

    In
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    fact,
    it is International Socialism, directed by corporate fascism; the same
    kind that successfully fueled the Third Reich, and now this rising
    Fourth Reich. This is what the advancing New World Order-ism (NWOism)
    promises, and that's not all. . . . Monotheism (the New World Religion)
    is piggybacking (or should we say "piggy-banking") along with
    International Central Banking, all on tap for civilization's salvation
    under Moore's bosses direction. 

    "Major sociopolitical and economic upheaval has accompanied every grand plague," Dr. Horowitzrecalls. "'Excess populations are war material,' says the Report From
    Iron Mountain, that best explains what is happening geopolitically,
    financially, and theologically. . . . Read this, together with the
    pre-Nazi diatribe Protocols of the Elders of Sion, and you never need to
    read another newspaper. You've got the gist of world news. Protocols
    even states poisonous inoculations will be used to advance global
    fascism."

    "This much like the Book of Revelation (18:2-4;23-24)," he adds, "tying the End Time's deadliestplagues to drug industrialists (sorcerers) that deceive the wealthiest
    global merchants contenting with 'unclean and hateful birds.'"

    To advance this rising Neo-Nazism, aka NWOism, by way of corporate fascism and paid politicalprostitution, people are herded like cattle by fear of eternal
    damnation, starvation, dehydration, and infections. Public health
    officials candidly proclaim their objective is to gain herd immunity.
    Internationally, governments decree this urgency to advance fraudulently
    tested vaccines, declare mind-numbing mercury "safe ," and get people
    feverishly intoxicated (i.e., hypersensitized, called "immunized") under
    the guise of prevention.

    In Hitler's day, it was called disinfection. It was the "public health" solution for the "Jewishquestion"--a cure for the banking industry's politically-imposed
    problem.

    This, exclusively, is the "heart of the beast" that Moore calls SICKO, yet conveniently neglects in his documentaries.

    So Moore's hidden backersand psycho-social agenda is now transparent. Capitalism: A Love Story is
    a propaganda piece promoting the New World Order's agenda--centralized
    global governance to foster his bosses "socialist" philosophy and
    profitable theologies......

     

    has the nerve to ask, "What would Jesus do?"

    It is very likely that Jesus would have taken out a whip and beat the crap out of this fatfraud! He did that to the money lenders in front of the temple gates for
    being gross hypocrites, suckering innocent ignorant temple-goers who
    knew nothing about loan-sharking and crippling interest rates. 

    The Bottom Line

     

    Why would population reduction be an option for money makers feeding on customers? Becauseprotecting assets against revolutionary uprisings is even more
    important; foremost for "national security."

    People are awakening enmasse to this fraud. This is evidenced by the majority of people who
    have realized vaccines are unsafe, largely ineffective, and secretly
    deadly. By disempowering, incapacitating, and downright murdering
    billions of people with poisons and plagues, Blankfein, Murdoch, and
    Moore stay solvent.....

     

    1%--including the Royal Family
    of England's Rothschild banksters, the American Rockefellers, Aussie
    Murdochs,' and New York's "Partnerships," generate Hollywood films to
    mold mind-sets; and now advance a new "ism"--not Capitalism, Socialism,
    or Communism. This is NWOism. 

    In the grand tradition of herding their cattle, and blaming their victims, Moore encourages, "Whenyou are in church . . . I am asking you to allow your better angels
    come forward."

    By better angels, Moore means your inner sheep.

    For those have been fooled,vaccinated, and now mentally retarded by heavy metals mercury, aluminum
    and more, these sheeple no longer think clearly, intelligently, or
    independently. Thus, they need this Illuminati puppet whore, "St.
    Michael," to dispense this kind of crap:

     

     

    Capitalism is opposite everything that Jesus (and Moses and Mohammed and Buddha) taught. It isevil to take the majority of the pie and leave what's left for everyone
    to fight over. Jesus said that if you failed to house the homeless and
    feed the hungry, you'd have a hard time finding the pin code to the
    pearly gates . . . .  Please know that I promise to do what I can to
    stop this evil--and I hope you'll join me in not giving up until
    everyone has a seat at the table."
    Moore's message is much
    like, "Let them eat cake," attributed to Marie Antoinette, not Jesus's
    miracle of Faith feeding thousands with a single loaf of bread. Even
    disregarding the facts cited above, or the common aversion to conspiracy
    theories inadequately evidencing conspiracy realities, does Moore
    appear malnourished?

    Weinstein here, discussing
    Judgment Day, and relishing sharing that big chocolate cake sitting in
    front of them. Can't you just imagine Moore prodding, Gee wiz, Harvey,
    maybe we should tithe 10% of our ticket sales, or share some of this
    cake with the poor hungry people from Skid Row. NOT!

     

    this book by its cover, and look beneath Moore's costume. He is obviously not a model formoderation. By all reasoned analysis, he is a disgusting hypocritical
    gluttonous prostitute for the SICKOs that command control over everyone
    and everything engaging their cult. 

    The bible talks about a half-truth being a complete lie, and how hard it is to get this rich fathalf-truther into heaven through the eye of a needle.  

    Weinstein here, discussing
    Judgment Day, and relishing sharing that big chocolate cake sitting in
    front of them. Can't you just imagine Moore prodding, Gee wiz, Harvey,
    maybe we should tithe 10% of our ticket sales, or share some of this
    cake with the poor hungry people from Skid Row. NOT!

     

    this book by its cover, and look beneath Moore's costume. He is obviously not a model formoderation. By all reasoned analysis, he is a disgusting hypocritical
    gluttonous prostitute for the SICKOs that command control over everyone
    and everything engaging their cult. 

    The bible talks about ahalf-truth being a complete lie, and how hard it is to get this rich fat
    half-truther into heaven through the eye of a needle.  Moore really could care less about "We the People." But he sure loves his money and chocolate cake!

    Summary and Conclusion

    Moore fans proudly proclaim his entertaining and biting commentaries in Farenheit 911, Bowling forColumbine, SICKO, and now Capitalism. But he neglected the real "SICKOS"
    in all these films.

    The primary devil-doers controlling guns, wars, and American health care, in SICKO for example,is not the insurance industry, but the Rockefeller-directed
    petrochemical-pharmaceutical cartel.

    Somehow Moore missed theprime players among the indictable war monders and drug dealers and war
    mongers, including Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, a major
    shareholder in toxic Tamiflu, conducting biochemical warfare on "We the
    People."

     

    How could he have missed his
    co-producers' financier, Lloyd Blankfein, with his $15Billion
    acquisition of the H1N1 flu vaccine maker, MedImmune/AstroZeneca. This
    story, alone, is worthy of a documentary.

    If Moore really intended to do justice to Capitalist SICKOs, and their genocidal impacts onsociety, he should have disclosed the conflicting interests of those
    battling "overpopulation," yet directing the World Bank's extortionate
    loans given only to countries that vaccinate people for better "disease
    control" and longevity. These members, such as George Soros, in the
    Council on Foreign Relations and Carlyle Group, profit by correcting
    overpopulation using "chemotherapy." Soros. Moviegoers might be
    interested in these investors who have sickened and enslaved humanity
    better than any tyrant in world history.

    In other words, distraction, deception, and persuasion via the silver screen on behalfof these SICKOs is Moore's traitorous trade.

    Ironically, he tells us that Jesus, who viewed tax collection as a form of extortion orprostitution, was the first Socialist. Moore wrote, "you can't call
    yourself a Capitalist AND a Christian, because you cannot love your
    money AND love your neighbor if you deny your neighbor the ability to
    see a doctor."

    This appeal for Obamacareis clear. Rather than making a political difference through honest
    film-making, Moore's Love Story and SICKO advances American health care
    conformance with Senator Jay Rockefeller's and Steven Burd's globalist
    agendas.  By projecting Americans discontent with insurance providers,
    Moore promotes our current CFR diplomat, Secretary of State, Hillary
    Rodham Clinton's socialized medicine mandate.

     

    The People" are dying from
    petro-chemical pharmaceutical intoxications from decision made in
    private organizations, such as The Population Council, wherein
    overpopulation has been targeted for a two-thirds reduction, and
    oligarchs decide how they shall kill us next.

     

    "Clearly, their method ofchoice," Dr. Horowitz evidences in this numerous books and films, "is
    the old 'Russian Biological Cocktail' method named and invented probably
    by American biochemical weapons enthusiasts. First they exposure you to
    chemicals in the air, foods, and water. Then they release their deadly
    microbes. The chemicals whack immune systems increasing death risks from
    infections."

     

    It’s an ingenious, untraceable, most profitable plot to do us in while reducing their risk of revolutionary uprisings.

    Ironically, not coincidentally, the week Moore's film Capitalism debuted, his favoritefinanciers, the Weinstein brothers, released Inglourious Basterds. This
    film celebrates the fictional demise of Nazi propaganda minister Josef
    Goebbels. Obviously, Quentin Tarantino was obliged to neglect Goebbels'
    alliance with Hitler's Rockefeller and Rothschild banksters, and his
    favorite American "Grand Dame of Eugenics," Margaret Sanger.

    "If you tell a lie long enough," Goebbels said, "eventually it will be believed as truth, andthe greater the lie more people will believe it."

    A lot of people are believing Michael Moore to be a friend of commoners and an irritant tothe world's wealthy. For this New World Class act, instead of an Oscar,
    Moore wins my award for Hollywood Hypocrite of the Century.

    - end -

     

     

    article much easier to read here and with photos: 

    http://www.fluscam.com/SICKO.html

     

     

    • ..interesting article Barron... (even i read only some parts of it)... thnks for posting...

      ..personally im not a fan of M. Moore, cause he dont address the real issues, that plague the system...

      .he is not the real deal for me....

       

      • Yes, i agree completely with you Vagelis4VenusProject.

         

        PS  Can you remind me again what your login name represents?  I seem to recall something about the "Venus Project" - is there a website to do with it?

         

        Cheers

    • This is inflammatory propoganda itself; I don't know why I wasted my time reading it.... this is simply bullshit, pardon my language.  Why do the naysayers pop up with rhetoric everytime someone tries to make a change for better? 

      Always aim for the messenger, eh?  And forget about the message? 

  • Aw Michael, You rock! I have always admired this man with his gutsy ways!! Id support him 100%too!!

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