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  flashstorm August 24, 2012 at 5:55am

  Most human beings confuse Love with attachment. That is they become attached to the object of their love. Love is not attachment, love is always free and without demands, conditions or expectations. Obsession on the other hand is a form of attachment. Love has nothing to do with obsession. When you truly love someone you do not need to cling to them or be attached to them. Genuine love means that you will always feel love for the person no matter where they are or where they go, and you wish for their highest happiness, even if that means you are apart from them. Yes people who truly love may be alone, but that is because they have no need to cling to others for emotional gratification. They experience love in every moment of every day, because it is in everything and everyone, it is everywhere and there is no need to grasp after it. There is no separation in this vibration. There is no other. There no ego. Only and endless ocean of love. Most relationships are based on desirous attachment. Love is where you accept everything and everyone for what it is, and can be one with anything that exists, because in actuality you share the same heart. There is no need therefore to possess, control, make demands or have expectations, because you feel one with the Love that is in everything without limitation. Love frees you therefore, it does not bind you to any person or any thing.

  Having said all that, Love mixed with attachment is not necessarily a bad thing. It is a learning experience, and in some cases can be beneficial for all involved. Obsession on the other hand, always leads to a bad place, one way or another.
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  ToxicDreamer August 24, 2012 at 2:30am

  I found something that I thought was interesting... http://intro2psych.wordpress.com/2009/05/12/love-obsession-and-chem...

   

  If one is romantically attached to the mother, one will be more likely to hunt for both the mother and the child. The obsessive nature of love that...

   

  and it stops there because my school blocked the website, but it makes me think that a man in love and obsessed with a woman will risk his life to hunt for food and protect her from harm, he would feel the need to do whatever it takes to do this, but If a man says he "Loves" a woman, but is not really obsessed with her, he would hesitate, and he wouldn't feel the survival instincts as strongly....
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  Boog August 24, 2012 at 1:29am

   I guess that depends on how much you "love" this person or thing. For example; I love the color Blue, but I don't paint my house blue, or my rooms or buy everything "blue". Therefore, I love blue but am not obsessed with it.
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    ToxicDreamer > Boog August 24, 2012 at 1:32am

    but if you love someone or something enough, wouldn't you be obsessed with them or it? or is Love now the same thing as hate, or indifference...?
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      Boog > ToxicDreamer August 24, 2012 at 2:14am

       Hmm, well it's a bit confusing to compare Love and Hate as being the same for to me, they are worlds apart. Let me give you another example. My wife and I have been married for almost 36 years. We have "loved" each other since day one. Through the good and the bad. We are almost like opposites (hence the saying "opposites attract"). 

       Now, if I followed her around everywhere, sent her a text every 5 minutes, bought her flowers every day, even she and others may say I am "obsessed". Even though I do not do these things she and others around us know that we "love" each other. Now this is my own personal opinion, I feel obsession is very close to Idolization.

       Just my thought Brother
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        ToxicDreamer > Boog August 24, 2012 at 2:19am

        ob·ses·sion/əbˈseSHən/

        Noun:

        The state of being obsessed with someone or something. An idea or thought that continually preoccupies or intrudes on a person's mind. love (lv) n. 1. A deep, tender, ineffable feeling of affection and solicitude toward a person, such as that arising from kinship, recognition of attractive qualities, or a sense of underlying oneness. 2. A feeling of intense desire and attraction toward a person with whom one is disposed to make a pair; the emotion of sex and romance. 3. a. Sexual passion. b. Sexual intercourse. c. A love affair. 4. An intense emotional attachment, as for a pet or treasured object. 5. A person who is the object of deep or intense affection or attraction; beloved. Often used as a term of endearment. 6. An expression of one's affection: Send him my love. 7. a. A strong predilection or enthusiasm: a love of language. b. The object of such an enthusiasm: The outdoors is her greatest love. 8. Love Mythology Eros or Cupid. 9. often Love Christianity Charity. 10. Sports A zero score in tennis. v. loved, lov·ing, loves v.tr. 1. To have a deep, tender, ineffable feeling of affection and solicitude toward (a person): We love our parents. I love my friends. 2. To have a feeling of intense desire and attraction toward (a person). 3. To have an intense emotional attachment to: loves his house. 4. a. To embrace or caress. b. To have sexual intercourse with. 5. To like or desire enthusiastically: loves swimming. 6. Theology To have charity for. 7. To thrive on; need: The cactus loves hot, dry air. v.intr. To experience deep affection or intense desire for another. Idioms: for love Out of compassion; with no thought for a reward: She volunteers at the hospital for love. for love or money Under any circumstances. Usually used in negative sentences: I would not do that for love or money. for the love of For the sake of; in consideration for: did it all for the love of praise. in love 1. Deeply or passionately enamored: a young couple in love. 2. Highly or immoderately fond: in love with Japanese painting; in love with the sound of her own voice. no love lost No affection; animosity Synonyms: love, affection, devotion, fondness, infatuation These nouns denote feelings of warm personal attachment or strong attraction to another person. Love is the most intense: marrying for love. Affection is a less ardent and more unvarying feeling of tender regard: parental affection. Devotion is earnest, affectionate dedication and implies selflessness: teachers admired for their devotion to children. Fondness is strong liking or affection: a fondness for small animals. Infatuation is foolish or extravagant attraction, often of short duration: lovers blinded to their differences by their mutual infatuation.
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          Boog > ToxicDreamer August 24, 2012 at 2:29am

           Well, there you go my brother. It appears you have found the answer :) A short definition for "obsessed" and many definitions for "love". I can't help but notice however that out of all the definitions for "love" the word "obsessed" is not mentioned.

          Love and Light
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            ToxicDreamer > Boog August 24, 2012 at 2:34am

            but I did find:

             

            A deep, tender, ineffable feeling of affection and solicitude toward a person,  such as that arising from kinship, recognition of attractive qualities, or a  sense of underlying oneness.

            An intense emotional attachment, as for a pet or treasured  object.

            5. A person who is the object of deep or intense  affection or attraction; beloved. Often used as a term of endearment.

             

            To like or desire enthusiastically

             

            A feeling of intense desire and attraction toward a person with whom one is  disposed to make a pair

            and The object of such an enthusiasm: The outdoors is her greatest love.

             

            which sound like the same definition of obsession, at least to me anyway

             

             
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  Vagelis4VP August 24, 2012 at 12:50am

  ..they are 2 complete different things... Love is Allowing.... Obsession is Controlling....
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    ToxicDreamer > Vagelis4VP August 24, 2012 at 12:56am

    you say Love is Allowing, but let's say you've been in a relationship for a long time, and for some reason the other person decides to leave you... you say "I love this person, so I'll allow them to leave" well you must not have loved them very much then... :P

    another thing is if someone is obsessed with someone, wouldn't they want to do things so the person they're obsessed with would want to spend as much time as possible with them? they might know that being controlling would drive the person away, so they can decide to not be controlling and still be obsessed with the person