This is a message from Jesus and all the animal eaters should take it very seriously as in a few years time no meat eater will be allowed to live on this Planet. No meat eaters will be able to ascend to 5th Dimension unless they start following the laws of harmlessness and love.

All the beings in higher dimensions follow the laws of harmlessness and love.

As Lord Adama the head priest of Telos states that people on the surface will need to shape up or ship out. 

I AM A BEING OF VIOLET FIRE...

I AM THE PURITY GOD DESIRES.

 

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  • brother James !
    if you read my post again, theres no mention of condemnation of meat eaters, just simple statement. No name calling, no judgment .
    I for one is a tollerant man, not some militant vegan judging every animal consumer and condeming everyone. One mans personal opinion many often times is misunderstood due to lack of understanding of offended one. More so, lack of experience, in this case vegetarian diet, makes them unopen to such possibilities.
    Not to offend anyone here, but I highly doubt that "angels", enl;ightened space brothers and sisters, those living in higher dimmentions( many mansions in a house of G-D), participate in unloving practice of animal sacrifice.
  • lets ask our selfs- would Jesus or anyother enlightened teacher consumed animals. after all the act of killing an animal is a aggression and total lack of compassion. Animal suffers, feels pain and knows that it is about to be murdered and creates the fear energy. Does the path to enlightment require sacrifice of our beloved animal kin ?
    Would Jesus participate in such cruel practice ?
    Is the act of Love killing that animal or is it an act of aggression and hate ?

    There are enough historic refrences in regards to Yeshuas , aka jesus' diet. Essene gospel of peace, aquarian gospel of jesus christ, gospel of holy 12 also known as original gospel of mathew, documents found in Nag Hamadi , even muslin Quran makes refrence to Jesus and mother Mary being vegetarian.

    Many times meat eaters present arguments that plants also have feelings and are living beings, which is true to certain extend, but in reality tree does not die after picking few apples, tomatoe bush does not die after picking a tomato, even a head of lettuce does not die when has a leaf picked off it and each plant produces seeds to make sure we can do that again. While killing an animal will stop reproduction of it until next reincarnation. We dont have to wait long for next round of seeds to reproduce and such process is endless in plant world.
    • I firmly beleive that in order to ascend you have to completely give up eating all meat. If you are looking for a protein suppliment simply eat some peanuts, or other kinds of nuts. They are 25 percent protein!
    • one of problems facing humanity, in my opinion, is that they take things too literal, like something written on stone, or papyrus, or some clay tablets than to reach within their own bodies and minds and find inspiration there.
      By studying many ancient scriptures, I realized that those ancient stories vary from one generation to another. Somehow their characters are there but information about them differs from document to other.
      While some of them seem logical, some too fantastic, many seem to present our GOD ( whatever it is ) as judgmental and kind of unloving to its flock. Sort of like ...if you dont believe in me you will be condemned......
      Thanks, not for me, my higher counscious mind is LOVE, Universe is LOVE, creator of universe is LOVE.
      LOVE is my religion.
  • Haha this song kicks ass. But would you really think that this discussion would just burn out with such an extensive mix of religion, science and politics? This is just a moltov coctail of dissonance.
  • How to Win an Argument with Meat-Eater
    While it is certainly best to avoid an argument with the aggressive meat-eater, a lively discussion provides them useful information and could help save the environment, their health and solve the world's hunger problemÑmaybe even result in a "convert." But be forewarned, these carnivores may regard nonmeat-eaters as a timid lot who munch "rabbit food," and whose diet doesn't have the substance to make them strong, productive human beings. The following presentation explains the devastating effects of meat-eating both on individuals and on our planet. It is based on a poster entitled, "How to win an argument with a meat-eater," published by Earthsave, of Felton, California, giving facts from Pulitzer Prize nominee John Robbins' book, Diet for a New America. HINDUISM TODAY'S version details ten arguments against meat-eating and in favor of a vegetarian diet.

    The facts you need to change opinion

    1. The Hunger Argument: Much of the world's massive hunger problems could be solved by the reduction or elimination of meat-eating because the needs of livestock pasture drastically cuts into the acres of land which could otherwise be used to grow food. Additionally, vast quantities of food which could feed humans is fed to livestock raised to produce meat.

    This year alone, twenty million people worldwide will die of malnutrition. One child dies of malnutrition every 2.3 seconds. One hundred million people could be adequately fed using the land freed if Americans reduced their intake of meat by a mere 10%. Eighty percent of the corn and 95% of the oats grown in the US is eaten by livestock. The percentage of protein wasted by cycling grain through livestock is calculated by experts as 90%. One acre of good farmland can produce 40,000 pounds of potatoes, or 250 pounds of beef. Fifty-six percent of all US farmland is devoted to beef production, and to produce each pound of beef requires 16 pounds of edible grain and soybeans, which could be used to feed the hungry.

    2. The Environmental Argument: Many of the world's massive environmental problems could be solved by the reduction or elimination of meat-eating, including global warming, loss of topsoil, loss of rain forests and species extinction. Trees, and especially the old-growth forests, are essential to the survival of the planet. Their destruction is a major cause of global warming and top soil loss. Meat-eating is the number one driving force for the destruction of these forests. Two-hundred and sixty million acres of US forestland have been cleared for crop land to produce the meat-centered diet. Fifty-five square feet of tropical rain forest is consumed to produce every quarter-pound of rain forest beef. An alarming 75% of all US topsoil has been lost to date. Eighty-five percent of this loss is directly related to livestock raising. Another devastating result of deforestation is the loss of plant and animal species. Each year 1,000 species disappear due to destruction of tropical rain forests for cattle grazing and other usesÑdriven by US demand. The rate is growing yearly.

    3. The Cancer Argument: Those who eat flesh are far more likely to contract cancer than those following a vegetarian diet. The risk of contracting breast cancer is 3.8 times greater for women who eat meat daily compared to less than once a week; 2.8 times greater for women who eat eggs daily compared to once a week; and 3.25 greater for women who eat processed butter and cheese two to four times a week as compared to once a week. The risk of fatal ovarian cancer is three times greater for women who eat eggs three or more times a week as compared with less than once a week. The risk of fatal prostate cancer is 3.6 times greater for men who consume meat, eggs, processed cheese and milk daily as compared with sparingly or not at all.

    4. The Cholesterol Argument: The average cholesterol consumption of a meat-centered diet is 210 milligrams per day. The chance of dying from heart disease if you are male and your blood cholesterol intake is 210 milligrams a day is greater than 50%.

    It is strange but true that US physicians are as a rule ill-educated in the single most important factor of health, namely diet and nutrition. As of 1987, of the 125 medical schools in the US, only 30 required their students to take a course in nutrition. The average nutrition training received by the average US physician during four years in school is only 2.5 hours. Thus doctors in the US are ill-equipped to advise their patients in minimizing foods, such as meat, that contain excessive amounts of cholesterol and are known causes of heart attack. Heart attack is the most common cause of death in the US, killing one person every 45 seconds. The male meat-eater's risk of death from heart attack is 50%. The risk to men who eat no meat is 15%. Reducing one's consumption of meat, processed dairy products and eggs by 10% reduces the risk of heart attack by 10%. Completely eliminating these products from one's diet reduces the risk of heart attack by 90%.

    5. The Natural Resources Argument: The world's natural resources are being rapidly depleted as a result of meat-eating. Raising livestock for their meat is a very inefficient way of generating food. Pound for pound, far more resources must be expended to produce meat than to produce grains, fruits and vegetables. For example, more than half of all water used for all purposes in the US is consumed in livestock production. The amount of water used in production of the average cow is sufficient to float a destroyer (a large naval ship). While 25 gallons of water are needed to produce a pound of wheat, 5,000 gallons are needed to produce a pound of California beef. That same 5,000 gallons of water can produce 200 pounds of wheat.

    Thirty-three percent of all raw materials (base products of farming, forestry and mining, including fossil fuels) consumed by the US are devoted to the production of livestock, as compared with two percent to produce a complete vegetarian diet.

    6. The Antibiotic Argument: Another danger of eating meat is the fact that large amounts of antibiotics are fed to livestock to control staphylococci (commonly called staph infections). The animals being raised for meat in the United States are diseased. The livestock industry attempts to control this disease by feeding the animals huge quantities of antibiotics. Of all antibiotics used in the US, 55% are fed to livestock. But this is only partially effective because the bacteria that cause disease are rapidly becoming immune to the antibiotics. The percentage of staphylococci infections resistant to penicillin, for example, has grown from 13% in 1960 to 91% in 1988. These antibiotics and/or the bacteria they are intended to destroy reside in the meat that goes to market. The response of the European Economic Community to the routine feeding of antibiotics to US livestock was to ban the importation of US meat.

    In February, 2001, Cornell University reported, "Bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), also known as mad cow disease, has now been officially identified in a dozen European countries including the UK, France, Italy, Germany, Spain, Belgium, Ireland, Liechtenstein, Portugal, Switzerland, Luxembourg and the Netherlands. As a result, beef sales have fallen by as much as 50% in parts of Europe." It was the common practice of feeding cows ground-up sheep brains and parts infected with the related disease of scarpie which is believed to have started the mad cow epidemic.

    7. The Pesticide Argument: Unknown to most meat-eaters, US-produced meat contains dangerously high quantities of deadly pesticides. The common belief is that the US Department of Agriculture protects consumers' health through regular and thorough meat inspection. In reality, fewer than one out of every 250,000 slaughtered animals is tested for toxic chemical residues. That these chemicals are indeed ingested by the meat-eater is proven by the following facts:

    a. Ninety-nine percent of the milk of US meat-eating mothers, contains significant levels of DDT. In stark contrast, only 8% of US vegetarian mother's milk contains significant levels of DDT. This shows that the primary source of DDT is the meat ingested by the mothers.

    b. The breast milk of meat-eating mothers has 35 times more chlorinated hydrocarbon pesticides than the milk of nonmeat-eating mothers.

    c. The average breast-fed American infant contains nine times the permissible level of the pesticide Dieldrin.

    8. The Ethical Argument: Many of those who have adopted a vegetarian diet have done so because of the ethical argument, either from reading about or personally experiencing what goes on daily at any one of the thousands of slaughterhouses in the US and other countries, where animals suffer the cruel process of forced confinement, manipulation and violent death. Their pain and terror is beyond calculation. Most slaughterhouse workers are not on the job for long and have the highest turnover rate of all occupations. It also has the highest rate of on-the-job injury.

    In the US alone, 660,000 animals are killed for meat every hour. The average per capita consumption of meat in the US, Canada and Australia is 200 pounds per year! The average American consumes in a 72-year lifetime approximately eleven cattle, three lambs and sheep, 23 pigs, 45 turkeys, 1,100 chickens and 862 pounds of fish!

    10. The Physiological Argument: The final and most compelling argument against meat-eating is that humans are physiologically not suited for a carnivorous diet. The book Food for the Spirit, Vegetarianism in the World Religions, summarizes this point of view as follows. "Many nutritionists, biologists and physiologists offer convincing evidence that humans are in fact not meant to eat flesh." The book gives seven facts in support of this view:

    1. Physiologically, people are more akin to plant-eaters, foragers and grazers, such as monkeys, elephants and cows, than to carnivora such as dogs, tigers and leopards.

    2. For example, carnivora do not sweat through their skin; body heat is controlled by rapid breathing and extrusion of the tongue. Vegetarian animals, on the other hand, have sweat pores for heat control and the elimination of impurities.

    3. Carnivora have long teeth and claws for holding and killing prey; vegetarian animals have short teeth and no claws.

    4. The saliva of carnivora contains no ptyalin and cannot predigest starches; that of vegetarian animals contains ptyalin for the predigestion of starches.

    5. Flesh-eating animals secrete large quantities of hydrochloric acid to help dissolve bones; vegetarian animals secrete little hydrochloric acid.

    6. The jaws of carnivora only open in an up and down motion; those of vegetarian animals also move sideways for additional kinds of chewing.

    7. Carnivora must lap liquids (like a cat); vegetarian animals take liquids in by suction through the teeth.

    More reasons for not eating meat:

    Reason 1

    Dharma

    Vedic Scripture proclaims ahimsa, nonhurtfulness, is a primary religious obligation in fulfillment of dharma, divine law.

    Reason 2

    Karma

    By involving oneself in the cycle of inflicting injury, pain and death, even indirectly by eating other creatures, one must in the future experience in equal measure the suffering caused.

    Reason 3

    Consciousness

    By ingesting the grosser chemistries of animal foods, one introduces into the body and mind anger, jealousy, fear, anxiety, suspicion and a terrible fear of death, all of which are locked into the flesh of the butchered creatures.


    Reason 4

    Health

    Vegetarians are less susceptible to all the major diseases that afflict contemporary humanity. Thus they live longer, healthier, more productive lives. They have fewer physical complaints, less frequent visits to the doctor, fewer dental problems and smaller medical bills.

    Reason 5

    Environment

    In large measure, the escalating loss of species, destruction of ancient rain forests to create pasture lands for livestock, loss of topsoil and the consequent increase of water impurities and air pollution have all been traced to the single fact of meat in the human diet.

    Saints and Scriptures Speak on Vegetarianism

    Vedas, shastras and sutras alike decry the killing and eating of animals

    Scriptures of all Hindu denominations speak clearly and forcefully on nonkilling and vegetarianism. The roots of noninjury, nonkilling and nonconsumption of meat are found in the Vedas, Dharma Shastras, Tirumurai, Yoga Sutras, Tirukural and dozens of other sacred texts of Hinduism. Perhaps nowhere is the principle of nonmeat-eating so fully and eloquently expressed as in the Tirukural, written in the Tamil language by a simple weaver saint over 2,000 years ago.

    One who partakes of human flesh, the flesh of a horse or of another animal, and deprives others of milk by slaughtering cows, O King, if such a fiend does not desist by other means, then you should not hesitate to cut off his head.

    Rig Veda Samhita 10.87.16

    Protect both our species, two-legged and four-legged. Both food and water for their needs supply. May they with us increase in stature and strength. Save us from hurt all our days, O Powers!

    Rig Veda Samhita 10.37.11

    O vegetable, be succulent, wholesome, strengthening; and thus, body, be fully grown.

    Rig Veda

    Those noble souls who practice meditation and other yogic ways, who are ever careful about all beings, who protect all animals, are the ones who are actually serious about spiritual practices.

    Atharva Veda Samhita 19.48.5

    You must not use your God-given body for killing God's creatures, whether they are human, animal or whatever.

    Yajur Veda Samhita 12.32

    The ignoble ones who eat flesh, death's agents bind them fast and push them quick into the fiery jaws of hell (Naraka, lower consciousness).

    Tirumantiram

    In waves of ahimsa, all living beings cease their enmity in the presence of such a person.

    Yoga Sutras 2.35

    Ahimsa is not causing pain to any living being at any time through the actions of one's mind, speech or body.

    Sandilya Upanishad

    Having well considered the origin of flesh and the cruelty of fettering and slaying of corporeal beings, let one entirely abstain from eating flesh.

    Manu Samhita

    The purchaser of flesh performs himsa (violence) by his wealth; he who eats flesh does so by enjoying its taste; the killer does himsa by actually tying and killing the animal. Thus, there are three forms of killing: he who brings flesh or sends for it, he who cuts off the limbs of an animal, and he who purchases, sells or cooks flesh and eats itÑall of these are to be considered meat-eaters.

    Mahabharata, Anu. 115.40

    He who desires to augment his own flesh by eating the flesh of other creatures lives in misery in whatever species he may take his birth.

    Mahabharata, Anu. 115.47

    Those high-souled persons who desire beauty, faultlessness of limbs, long life, understanding, mental and physical strength and memory should abstain from acts of injury.

    Mahabharata 18.115.8

    How can he practice true compassion who eats the flesh of an animal to fatten his own flesh?

    Tirukural Verse 251

    Riches cannot be found in the hands of the thriftless. Nor can compassion be found in the hearts of those who eat meat.

    Tirukural Verse 252

    Goodness is never one with the minds of these two: one who wields a weapon and one who feasts on a creature's flesh.

    Tirukural Verse 253

    If you ask, "What is kindness and what is unkind?" it is not killing and killing. Thus, eating flesh is never virtuous.

    Tirukural Verse 254

    Life is perpetuated by not eating meat. The clenched jaws of hell hold those who do.

    Tirukural Verse 255

    If the world did not purchase and consume meat, there would be none to slaughter and offer meat for sale.

    Tirukural Verse 256

    When a man realizes that meat is the butchered flesh of another creature, he must abstain from eating it.

    Tirukural Verse 257

    Greater than a thousand ghee offerings consumed in sacrificial fires is to not sacrifice and consume any living creature.

    Tirukural Verse 259

    All that lives will press palms together in prayerful adoration of those who refuse to slaughter and savor meat.

    Tirukural Verse 260

    My opinion is well known. I do not regard flesh food as necessary for us at any stage and under any clime in which it is possible for human beings ordinarily to live. I hold flesh-food to be unsuited to our species."

    Mahatma Gandhi
    NAMASTE
  • Great Spiritual Masters have incarnated here time and time again and have preached humans to live in LOVE and LlGHT and do no harm to Living Entities nor any Harm to Nature.....Lord Adama Head Priest of Telos has clearly stated that 5th Dimension and Higher Dimension beings will only make First Contact when the consciousness of the people change and they start living in the Spirit of Harmlessness and Love. Higher Dimension beings are advising us on what to do and we should listen if we want to go for Ascension as the next Ascension opportunity will be 26,000 years from now.
    Most of the World problems would be solved if everyone was Vegetarian so say Ascended Spiritual Masters.
    I AM A BEING OF SILVER-VIOLET FIRE...
    I AM THE PURITY GOD DESIRES
  • :]

    There is so much, just on the first couple of pages that I would like to comment on but it would serve no purpose. I must say though, that telling one another how to live is never beneficial. It is a futile effort at least and a negative, damaging one at most. Who are any of us to judge our brothers and sisters anyway?
  • thanks for this post Ravinder. Peace starts ar dinner table said one wise man.
    There will be no peace as long as we murder our animal brothers and sisters.
    But, be of good cheer , those who donot participate in animals suffering......................
  • SHAPE UP OR SHIP OUT are the famous words used by LORD ADAMA who is close to LORD JESUS...read THE SEVEN SACRED FLAMES by Aurelia Louise Jones...LORD ADAMA is THE HEAD PRIEST OF TELOS..and all the Telosians are high spiritual beings who have already conquered DEATH, OLD AGE AND DISEASE and follow true Christ Teachings which include NO HARMING ANY LIVING ENTITIES.
    The VEDAS clearly state that meat eaters will reincarnate in the HELLISH PLANETS and do not argue with the VEDAS as they represent GODS LAWS.
    Always remember all living things have a right to live just as you have.
    The VEGANS say,,, how would you like to be eaten up???...do not eat any living being that has a face on it or in your future life you will end up with that face and be eaten up... so say the VEGANS
    Lastly MOTHER EARTH WILL NOT TOLERATE ANY BEINGS WHO ARE DOING HARM TO NATURE OR OTHER LIVING ENTITIES and do not argue with her as already she is on the WAR PATH.
    Join the Vegetarian/Vegan group on Ashtarcommandcrew.net
    I AM A BEING OF SILVER -VIOLET FIRE..
    I AM THE PURITY GOD DESIRES
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