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  Yvonne Williams October 30, 2011 at 1:08am

  Hi James you hit the nail right on the head. The change in currency would have freed a lot of souls from the tyranny of a more powerful nation. Iam sure you know which one . Africa would have been one nation that would have been helped.  There were others too. Notice these people are  asassinated  not brought too justice in a fair court. They just might talk and incriminate someone who thinks they are important. Yvonne
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  Andronover October 25, 2011 at 8:31pm

  Hi all , I want you who believes that Ghaddafi were a monster to look at this one more time , and tell us all  why this is a lie:

   

  1. There is no electricity bill in Libya; electricity is  free for all its citizens.
  2. There is no interest on loans,  banks in Libya are state-owned and loans given to all its citizens at 0%  interest by law.
  3. Home considered a human right in Libya – Gaddafi vowed that his parents would not get a house until everyone in Libya had  a

  home. Gaddafi’s father has died while him, his wife and his mother are still  living in a tent.
  4. All newlyweds in Libya receive $60,000  Dinar (US$50,000) by the government to buy their first apartment so to  help start up the

  family.
  5. Education and medical treatments are free in Libya. Before  Gaddafi only 25% of Libyans are literate. Today the figure is  83%.
  6. Should Libyans want to take up farming career, they  would receive farming land, a farming house, equipments, seeds and

  livestock to kick-start their farms – all for free.
  7. If Libyans cannot  find the education or medical facilities they need in Libya, the government  funds them to go abroad for it –

  not only free but they get US$2,300/mth accommodation and car  allowance.
  8. In Libyan, if a Libyan buys a car, the government  subsidized 50% of the price.
  9. The price of petrol in Libya  is $0.14 per liter.
  10. Libya has no external debt and its  reserves amount to $150 billion – now frozen globally.
  Great Man-Made River  project in Libya… $27 billion
  11. If a Libyan is unable to get employment after graduation the state would pay the average salary of the profession as if he or

  she is employed until employment is found.
  12. A portion of Libyan oil  sale is, credited directly to the bank accounts of all Libyan citizens.
  13. A  mother who gave birth to a child receive US$5,000
  14. 40 loaves of bread in  Libya costs $ 0.15
  15. 25% of Libyans have a university degree
  16. Gaddafi  carried out the world’s largest irrigation project, known as the Great Man-Made  River project, to make water readily

  available throughout the desert country.
  
  Which other dictator  has done so much good for his people?

  
  
  Read more: http://www.ashtarcommandcrew.net/forum/topics/gaddaffi?xg_source=ac...
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  JC October 25, 2011 at 8:04pm

  This is the best I could do with this--but I think at least all the words are showing this time! Moammar Gadhafi  Moammar Gadhafi, the former leader of Libya, was executed after being captured alive near his hometown of Sirte. Video footage shows a bloodied Qaddafi pleading for his life before asking the fighters who captured him, "Do you know what's right or wrong?"  Press reports indicate that he was targeted by French and U.S. aircraft and drones shortly before being captured. Why was Gadhafi summarily executed? Who wanted him dead before he could be put on trial? What does this say about NATO and the people who will take control of Libya? Christopher Bollyn 1. There is no electricity bill in Libya; electricity is free for all its citizens. 2. There is no interest on loans, banks in Libya are state-owned and loans given to all its citizens at 0% interest by law. 3. Home considered a human right in Libya – Gaddafi vowed that his parents would not get a house until everyone in Libya had a home. Gaddafi’s father has died while him, his wife and his mother are still living in a tent. 4. All newlyweds in Libya receive $60,000 Dinar (US$50,000) by the government to buy their first apartment so to help start up the family. 5. Education and medical treatments are free in Libya. Before Gaddafi only 25% of Libyans are literate. Today the figure is 83%. 6. Should Libyans want to take up farming career, they would receive farming land, a farming house, equipments, seeds and livestock to kick-start their farms – all for free. 7. If Libyans cannot find the education or medical facilities they need in Libya, the government funds them to go abroad for it – not only free but they get US$2,300/mth accommodation and car allowance. 8. In Libyan, if a Libyan buys a car, the government subsidized 50% of the price. 9. The price of petrol in Libya is $0.14 per liter. 10. Libya has no external debt and its reserves amount to $150 billion – now frozen globally. Great Man-Made River project in Libya… $27 billion  11. If a Libyan is unable to get employment after graduation the state would pay the average salary of the profession as if he or she is employed until employment is found. 12. A portion of Libyan oil sale is, credited directly to the bank accounts of all Libyan citizens. 13. A mother who gave birth to a child receive US$5,000 14. 40 loaves of bread in Libya costs $ 0.15 15. 25% of Libyans have a university degree 16. Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigation project, known as the Great Man-Made River project, to make water readily available throughout the desert country.  Which other dictator has done so much good for his people?   THE BRUTAL MURDER of Muammar Gaddafi by Zionist-owned Libyan insurgents is an example of what happens to political leaders who defy international Jewish bankers. Gaddafi refused to do the bidding of the Rothschild-centered global banking cartel in 5 areas: • A Gaddafi-Centered African Union With A Common Currency Here & Here • A Gaddafi-Run Central Bank Of Libya Here • A Gaddafi-Holding Of 150 Tons Of Gold Here • A Gaddafi-Run Libyan Oil Industry Here • A Gaddafi-Run ‘Blue-Gold’ Water Reserves Here

   

   
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  JC October 24, 2011 at 6:27pm

  Can we really believe what they are saying? Moammar Gadhafi      Moammar Gadhafi, the former leader of Libya, was executed after being captured alive near his hometown of Sirte. Video footage shows a bloodied Qaddafi pleading for his life before asking the fighters who captured him, "Do you know what's right or wrong?"  Press reports indicate that he was targeted by French and U.S. aircraft and drones shortly before being captured. Why was Gadhafi summarily executed? Who wanted him dead before he could be put on trial? What does this say about NATO and the people who will take control of Libya? Christopher Bollyn  1. There is no electricity bill in Libya; electricity is free for all its citizens. 2. There is no interest on loans, banks in Libya are state-owned and loans given to all its citizens at 0% interest by law. 3. Home considered a human right in Libya – Gaddafi vowed that his parents would not get a house until everyone in Libya had a home. Gaddafi’s father has died while him, his wife and his mother are still living in a tent. 4. All newlyweds in Libya receive $60,000 Dinar (US$50,000) by the government to buy their first apartment so to help start up the family. 5. Education and medical treatments are free in Libya. Before Gaddafi only 25% of Libyans are literate. Today the figure is 83%. 6. Should Libyans want to take up farming career, they would receive farming land, a farming house, equipments, seeds and livestock to kick-start their farms – all for free. 7. If Libyans cannot find the education or medical facilities they need in Libya, the government funds them to go abroad for it – not only free but they get US$2,300/mth accommodation and car allowance. 8. In Libyan, if a Libyan buys a car, the government subsidized 50% of the price. 9. The price of petrol in Libya is $0.14 per liter. 10. Libya has no external debt and its reserves amount to $150 billion – now frozen globally. Great Man-Made River project in Libya… $27 billion  11. If a Libyan is unable to get employment after graduation the state would pay the average salary of the profession as if he or she is employed until employment is found. 12. A portion of Libyan oil sale is, credited directly to the bank accounts of all Libyan citizens. 13. A mother who gave birth to a child receive US$5,000 14. 40 loaves of bread in Libya costs $ 0.15 15. 25% of Libyans have a university degree 16. Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigation project, known as the Great Man-Made River project, to make water readily available throughout the desert country.  Which other dictator has done so much good for his people?  THE BRUTAL MURDER of Muammar Gaddafi by Zionist-owned Libyan insurgents is an example of what happens to political leaders who defy international Jewish bankers.  Gaddafi refused to do the bidding of the Rothschild-centered global banking cartel in 5 areas:  • A Gaddafi-Centered African Union With A Common Currency Here & Here • A Gaddafi-Run Central Bank Of Libya Here • A Gaddafi-Holding Of 150 Tons Of Gold Here • A Gaddafi-Run Libyan Oil Industry Here • A Gaddafi-Run ‘Blue-Gold’ Water Reserves Here
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  Bro. Daniel October 24, 2011 at 6:09pm

  Mr. Andronover: Beautifully stated!! Very wise words spoken; & I'm not joking; & where that came from, I know there's more, so thnx for the token! Much peace & much respect!
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  Andronover October 24, 2011 at 5:39pm

  " In
  living in ignorance, the consequences are there--just not correctly identified
  as such. You pay either way--to the lie. Find Truth and uncover the conspirators
  and their hierarchy and you shall begin to dissolve their power over your
  experience. Let us uncover again those who would be KINGS over your destiny and
  the destiny of your world. That is the FIRST STEP to FREEDOM! Truth is that one
  thing that without it, you shall remain enslaved. "

  From: http://abundanthope.net/pages/Phoenix_Journals_61/PJ-75-TRUTH-AND-C...

  
  

  

  PJ #75 " TRUTH AND CONSEQUENCES ", intro.
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  Bro. Daniel October 24, 2011 at 4:52pm

  Dear Mr. McCoy: If you are sincere in your judgment of a Gadaffi, what is the basis of your judgment?? We all are little judges in own world. You heard/read info. about Gadaffi from the plaintiff. The burden of proof is on the plaintiff. Have you heard/ read anything from the defendant?? Have you checked the track record of the plaintiff?? Could it be tied to Oil by any chance? What sources on you relying on?? Who controls those sources? If we are to be considered good people, what standard are we using? Could the 'Golden Rule' be used? If I accused you of a crime, should I be allowed to gossip & spread a rumor/news about you, unchallenged w/o you ever being heard; sow enough dissension; raise up a gang/mob & supply the gang w/ enough uzzi's & pistols & pay them to lynch you; is that morally correct?? Is that justice?? That was the mentality of the KKK who hid behind noble/ "righteous" principles claiming to execute judgment on the basis of word of mouth testimony &.
  trumped up charges. Ex. "That nigger raped a white woman, let's go get him" ; well in this case, we just replaced nigger w/ "dictator"; let's go assassinate that "evil dictator!" In a court of law, what kind of credibility would a plaintiff have w/ a track record & hands as bloody as 'ours'? The same power structure/ families/ & mindset that was over the oil companies are the same ones that were over the cotton plantations, & the sugar plantations prior to that. That 400-500 year history/ track record is filled w/ lies, deceit, murder, gross injustice; & for us not to cross-examine the plaintiff & not to even hear anything the defendant has to say, doesn't seem right. This type of thinking keeps us on a 3-D mode, which is full of deceit & cannot & will not survive! This wasn't intended to offend in anyway, however, let's strive harder to do unto others what we would have them to do unto us! Time is of essence! Much love & respect!
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  Andronover October 24, 2011 at 4:14pm

  Thank´s Daniel for your wisdom - it´s in dire need.

  We have some here that still doesn´t want to look through the lie , or dont wan´t for various reasons.

  We can NOT get true freedom and a raise in vibration on this planet if we allow ourselves to be enslaved.

  We must not accept to be in chains like we are now .
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  Bro. Daniel October 24, 2011 at 2:38pm

  Anthony: very true indeed; good point. We are living in a modern day Rome, Sodom & Gomorrah, Babylon, Egypt of your SCRIPTures!
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  Bro. Daniel October 24, 2011 at 7:53am

  The unique Marique. Thnx for your words of rationale. 'Enemy of the State'- Gadaffi became; if this was in England somewhere, we just 'a king/ monarch; if it were our home we say 'parents'. We don't say "dictator". Most of our parents were loving "dictators". If you got out of line or became dissatisfied by an outside enemy w/ the 11 pm curfew; dissatisfied w/ the chores you HAD to do. That shows signs of mental elevation on your part. 3D is how things appear. 4D is the spiritual & unseen aspects behind the scenes. It takes spiritual maturity & patience to demonstrate justice. All the hero movies like batman, X-Men, Matrix, Spiderman, Transformers, etc., the hero's were all vilified by the elite; then the "Jokers", Lex Luther's, "Agents", & so on could re-direct the energy of the police/military against the true freedom fighters underneath 'noble' causes. Peace be unto you!