I was thinking that if cmd Sheran needs some ambassador to make the connection with terrians on the day of the first contact how could we the ones to help the pepeol that will be stunnish and wont know what to do! To explain that they really are here for peace and help us for the changes! 

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  • its ok....we agree to disagree at least...(i mean about the ignorance, selfishness and greed as natural attributes)...

    We agree that people need to unite as a family and change the world and society for the better...
    ...but we also disagree again on the way this is gonna happen...

    You propose a reform of the monetary system (a.k.a Nesara)...
    ...and i propose the total abolition of the monetary system,
    and use what is relevant for our survivor, which is the Earth's resources, and Not the money (a.k.a Venus Project)... ;)
  • Alb...no...i am not saying that we need to stop using money tomorrow, and we get in fear because
    we cant buy our food...lol...
    its not this what im saying...
    i just say what is the problem in society today... and that we CAN change it if we like...
    ...(but not the Nesara style), and make the world a much much better place... :)
  • ok..Meg...
    ignorance, selfishness and greed....are not natural attributes inside the humans...
    humans get these "bad" attributes because of the environment and thus "system" they live in....
    if we were living in a sane system, we would not have ignorance, selfishness and greed...
    ignorance, selfishness and greed, are the symptoms of the problem and not the reason...
    i am not saying that we need to get back to barter system...we are way beyond that
    as a species... we can do much better than that....

    Yes for to correct the system people need to change...and thats the hardest part...
    yes we have the technology NOW to create an abundance for all people on Earth (when i say abundance i mean energy, shelter/housing, clean air, water, food, transportation... not 2 private Jets on each backyard), without the use of money, barter, or any other form of servitude...

    Why????...Because we NOW have, not only the resources for that, but the technology and the know-how for to do it, something that it was not possible in past times!!!...
    thats why Money are irrelevant in todays world, and an obsolete method for a social system....
  • hi Meg...
    yes..taxes of course are fraud, lies and deception....
    nobody said the opposite....but money also are fraud lies and deception...
    thats why i say the problem is in the system...yes..money is neutral...but money is used by people...so,money cannot stay neutral...why???
    because if it exist, automatically creates a system with corruption in-bedded in it...there will always be those who will want to take advantage over others in order to gain more profit...
    even if 95% of the people stay fair and honest the rest 5% will do all the mess..like it is happening today...
    a drop of shit in a glass of pure water, will make all the water undrinkable....

    and also who is to determine how much money a doctor takes, and how much a person who gathers the trash takes...
    who's to say who is more important that the other...
    Many...many years ago, money were useful to people where it made it easier for them
    to carry it for their exchanges, rather than carry 10 hens on the one hand and 3 sacks or beans on the other...
    but today, money has lost completely its way...

    lets suppose that we stop all taxes...and all people get same amount of money to use from scratch...
    do u think that along the way, people will stay fair and honest???...someone for to make more profit,
    he will use any means he can... people create low quality products in the fastest amount of time,
    for to get more profit...people look for cheap labor in 3rd world countries, also for more profit...
    they dont care for slave labor, as long as their pockets get bigger with money...
    does anybody think that greed and corruption will cease to exist, even if we spread equally the same amount of
    money to all people???

    the only way to eliminate greed and corruption is to remove the roots that causes it...and not just chop off
    the branches on the tree...no matter how many times we cut them...they will still grow....

    Just to stop the taxes, and give us the money we want, wont solve the problems...
    The problem in the world today is not only the taxes, or the corrupt governments....
    its not that i work my ass off, and the government takes my hard earned cash...
    its bigger than that...we need to address the ROOT of the problem...
    and the Root is the monetary system, that we all using...
    without money automatically we have no taxes, and there is no basis for any corruption...

    all solutions that proposed from various organizations and various political parties,
    have a common base...and that is money....thats why none of these solutions will work...

    Think OUT of the Box... (because Nesara is INTO the box)!!!
    • Way to go!
      I've been talking about getting rid of the money system pepeol think i'm dumb crazy but I don't care!!!
      We need to get ride of the capitilsm and competition between each other. Ascended Master taught us the meaning of unconditional love and infity so let's us it for the purpose of love.
      • yup...its the only and natural way to go, if we are to evolve...
        when we realize that the whole humanity is a family....and as a family, when we have a loaf of bread on the table,
        each member takes the amount he/she wants for to eat..nobody stays hungry,
        and nobody ask his little brother or sister give me a dollar for a slice of bread... ;)
        • Let's start to make a move like in the US in the sixties reunion all over the country!
          IF we connect by the Internet we could make a 2 day reunion all over the world. Even for the different countrys if we are not at the same place it doesn't matter Gaia would felt it anyway,an explaining to the world new and old genaration that like they did in the past to stop the governement then by getting all togheter Gaia would apreciate because it wouldn be for lowering taxes but to ask the same thing that Neo ask to AI in the Matrix: Peace , love and prosperity. We woud start to feel the 5th dimension plus facilement.

          This is my Goal . I've been asked to Teach to the next generation about light, multidemension, unconditionnal love metaphysics, Astrophysics, Star Treking. So by opening a Light Institute on Earth that will help, sourtout after being in a base of 5th dimension. So I need to start yesterday !
          Then we will need teachers, benevol and all kind of other things to start a University.
  • The problem is not in the governments of the world...
    the problem is in the system we have.... and this system uses money...
    governments dont rule the world... money does... and if we follow the money we see that it's
    in the hands of the banks, and in private corporations... not governments...

    if i understand correctly, nesara proposes just a reform of our money system...(correct me if im wrong)...
    well...this is not gonna work in the long run...(because we have tested it before, and we know its not working...we cannot do the same things over and over again, and expect different results)...
    even if all debt in the world is canceled, all taxes cease to exist, and all people get from 1 million dollars each,
    still this is not a solution...it cannot work that way...
    ...and if anybody cannot understand why it's not gonna work,
    just do your research to see why...
    we need to understand that our problems as humanity are BIGGER than that...
    And one more thing...we dont need governments and personal opinions, on how we should run
    things as a society...and as humanity in general...
  • Je suis d'accord!
    Et aussi quand les hippies et toutes les révolutions ont été faites en temps de guerre, ou bien de révolution en se battant contre ceux qui étaient au pouvoir, cela ne pourrais pas se passer de façon plus fluide même quand qu'il y a une reunion du peuple. Et ceux au pouvoir devraient faire partit de ceux qui se réunissent! Je voulais donc par le message du project Nesara faire connaitre certains plans si il y avait des changement à faire économiquement et spirituel également, sans nécéssairement arrivé au gens puis leur dire " Finit le marché monétaire tout le monde peut avoir ce qu'il veulent" les magasins serait remplit jusqu'à ce que le monde comprennent que cela ne te sert à rien d'en avoir 10 télé même si tu veux les revendres l'autre peut en avoir gratuit aussi!
  • Even if Nesara is real...its still a "low level" solution...we dont need a reform of the monetary system in this world, for to make it better....
    i dont expect that the Nesara idea came up from so called "advanced beings"... even a 5 year old knows today, that at the point we are now in the world, we dont need any type of money use for to live...and prosper...
    Everybody knows that the money thing is a scam... created out of thin air, and no relevant to our survivor...
    Even if we demolish all debt from all countries, and start with a fair money system from scratch, still its NO good solution, which will lead us to the same state that we are now...which is Total Corruption!!!...Whether any money reform system is called Nesara, Kesara, or Mesara, we will Never get a fair social system as long as money is in the use...
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