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  • Lunatic Liberals and Deranged Democrats are fighting to keep chemicals in food, water and medicine while screaming for more war, embezzlements and open borders
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  • A skull can tell what 'race' someone is? You must be kidding here! People will argue for hours about what 'race' tukankhamen was and yet we have a full bust. You cannot tell what 'race' someone his, even if you curve out their whole face, and you tell me you can tell it from a mere skull? You can't! These are subjective matters, not 'science'.

    You didn't answer the question as 'yes' or 'no' the way I intended. You gave your own theory as to how a black person can have been in ancient Egypt. No we are not yet there. I ask:

    Can't a black person have been in ancient Egypt?

    We are not yet to the question of who the Egyptians were, nor to the question of how 'black people' got there. In fact, I have not even made a conclusion that there were black people in Egypt. I have just ask: is it possible that in ancient times, there were black people in Egypt? Please say 'yes' or 'no'.
  • Ah, but the context is also relevant....Indeed, there were black people living in ancient Egypt, as you could see easily, on that bas relief, imported as slaves by Pharaohs such as Horemheb, Ramasses and others, who took territory off their southern neighbours, of the sub-Saharan race....It was their policy of the day and one used by many others, too...Babylonians, Greeks, Romans...
    So I never said a black skinned person was never in Egypt.....But, I am suggesting that the Egyptians themselves were not black and we have provided you with an excess of evidence, both subjective and objective forensics...
    DNA reveals a hell of a lot about racial and personal characteristics.....Even a skull can be reconstructed into a "living" face...
    And there are many Pharonic bodies and the bodies of multiple Egyptian officials, as well.....that prove they were not black sub-saharans, themselves...Nor were ancient Britons....These are facts...

    Moreover, pure logic tells us this story...For example, we have evidence that Vikings from Norway had amazingly accomplished sea-faring abilities, producing ships that could travel across seas and oceans, such as the Atlantic...

    In contrast, we have no such evidence that sub-Saharan Africans ever built comparable ships....

    If someone suggested that an ancient tribe was able to travel to North America, centuries before Columbus, would it be an African tribe, or a tribe from Norway...??? Logic alone indicates our choices.....Evidence backs them..
    And forensics is continually improving.....We can now look directly into history and discover truths previously unknown..
  • If nothing prevents someone from having been at a place, then he could have been there, and he probably was there! So my argument will start with a premis:

    1.there is nothing about having a 'black' skin that prevents someone from having been in ancient Egypt.
  • Drekx,

    I am more of logist or a philosopher. I simply ask: what prevents a blue eyed blonde from being in Levant some 6500 years ago??? This is not a question of 'science' or 'evidence'. It is a LOGICAL question. What is it about having blue eyes that prevents you from being in Levant some 6500 years ago??? What is it about being 'black' that prevents someone from being there? We can begin by offering some PHILOSOPHICAL arguments that determines if ppl were locked up in certain places based on their skin colours. If there is no rational reason, why suppose that pple in ancient times were partitioned and locked up in various places based on their skin or eye colours?
  • Dreks;
    Do I value so called 'scientific method'? Not too much because through 'scientific method', I am told that 'nothing can travel faster than light'. In other words, if I were to blindly follow claims of 'scientific method s', I will dismiss the even bigger claims you make in this site: is that you have been visited by ETs Sirius. No, I can't believe some 'science' that tells me 'ancient Egyptians were of such and such race'. To convince me, begin by LISTING some premises or axioms and then let's reason from that and arrive at the conclusion through pure reasoning. I can't believe researches done by people whom I can't acertain their interests in the matter, like I can't in science in general, from relativity to evolution.
  • "Blue-eyed, fair-skinned settlers inhabited the Levant, some 6,500 years ago....!!"

    Interesting eh...?? See the vid I posted, which provides PROOF...I'm talking science here, NOT POLITICS, NOR RELIGION..(on this rare occasion.)
  • If someone WANTS TO BELIEVE that 'black people' built the ancient British megalithic structures, because maybe it makes him feel 'superior' to 'white' people, there is NOTHING you can do to convince him otherwise! Neither can you convince a 'white supremacist' that black people were there in ancient Egypt.

    No, 'race' is not science. It is a religion!! You cannot convince a Christian that Jesus did not die on the cross through logical arguments and/or offering evidences. No you can't! It was never evidence that made him believe in Jesus. Neither was it evidence that makes some believe that 'Trump is a good president' or 'egyptians where no black' etc. Belief comes first, and then followed by a search for evidences and logical arguments that backup those beliefs. You can go through all the Bible with a Jehovah's witness etc. Show him a verse that says 'Jesus was God's, and he only shows you a verse that speaks otherwise! Same is the case with the 'race' of ancient Egyptians. Like in all cases, there are always evidences that shows this way or otherwise. Someone merely choses the evidencces that confirm his own beliefs. That is how human beings are, as a matter of fact, and as a matter of fact, it gets worse in religion on the the 'race' issue is at hand. People from all the sides simply cease being rational!!
  • With respect, I thought you valued the scientific method...?? Some evidence is subjective I grant, such as the images upon an ancient artwork from Egypt....However, we are very fortunate that those amazing ancient people also recorded their stories on papyrus and reliefs and even preserved their bodies through a mummification process...That applied to Pharaohs, Queens, Viziers, Magistrates, High Priests and many wealthy members of the Egyptian aristocracy....
    And so......WE HAVE THE PROOF OF WHO THEY WERE AND WHAT RACE THEY EXPRESSED...

    And some of them were not even Egyptian......but from Europe and the mid east...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh3y4FydRNU
  • Dreks,
    No there are no easy methods of verifying those claims of yours with regard to 'race' of ancient Egyptians. You and I annot go to Egypt and do excavations, DNA tests or such things. If we must question such claims as to whether or not the sun is a thermonuclear furnace, then you cannot ask me to trust what some 'resercher' who went to Egypt has to tell me on what 'race' Egyptians were. If you were to convince, you gotta begin by some facts that you and I can agree on. Then you reason out with me and I will see whether you can through pure reasoning from premises we can agree on, deduce for me what 'race' ancient Egyptians.

    So far, you have only given assertions like;

    "It is obvious that ancient Egyptians were not black contrary to how wokesters claim"

    Or:
    "There are ways to show that black Cushites were not the master architects in ancient Egypt"

    What evidence do you offer for these? Don't show me some images because there is no way I can verify who drew them and when they did that. Do you believe that ancient Egyptians 'were not obviously black' the same way you believe that ETs sent by GFL from Sirius are 'obvious here on earth' and have contacted you in person? How can I falsify your own personal truths? I don't think I can!! This ceases being an objective science, and indeed the issue of 'race' of some ancient people is never a 'science' to be taught. This is more like a religion.

    No you will never convince a chauvinistic so called 'black person' that 'black people were never in Britain', like you will never convince a chauvinistic so called 'white person' that 'white people were never in Egypt'. I mean he is a 'white' person. How will he easily accept what seems to 'put him down' in some way. This is just like religion. You believe what you want to believe, and who doesn't want to believe that their 'race' did great things and the other 'race' did nothing of the sort etc? We have INTEREST in the matter, and so our objectivity is under question. You cannot be both a player and a referee all at once! You cannot be a judge in your own case. Never!! No, there is no one qualified to study the 'race' of ancient Egyptians!!
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